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4-MEC v.s. Mephedrone and/or Methylone

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Hi guys & gyals,

I am familiar with rules as far as sources go but most of my connections do not have mephedrone in stock anymore and so going with the sources that I trust, they only have methylone and newly added 4-Mec (from that category of drugs (seratonigenics ((sp?)).

I've tried methylone about 2-3 times and mephedrone about 30-30+ times. Mephedrone i liked more b/c i felt the comedown from repeated dosing (binging (sp?)) I could handle with some benzos/weed/alcohol. But the methylone comedown i had from repeated dosing (to me) was far worse plus I cant compare the comdowns honestly b/c the days previous to doing methylone i was doing mdma and lines of coca....most likely added/aggravated the comedown....though anyways the comdown from mephedrone is definatley a comedown (spine hurts, etc which is very different from pure mdma where i get no comedown just the effects wear out in short) but on methylone (combined with the previous days most definatley if not probably) i had nervous breakdown with tears for about 2-3 days....and i was dosed up heavy on 6mg+ clonazepam per dose 2x-3x a day). Different people different reactions but I liked methylone a lot more in terms of effects it was like the narcotic version of mdma if you can immagine a more mellow version (though only half the lenght of mdma).

I'm familiar with these 2 but I'd like to know how 4-Mec feels in comparison to the former 2...esp methylone since that's whats in stock now, or even mephedrone if you think they compare (a buddy tells me its even better than mephedrone but hes only tried it once or twice).

Please and thanks!

Respect bluelight :)
 
4-mec is possibly the dirtiest cathinone going. I suggest you give Methylone another go or see if you can locate some Flephedrone, that's a fun cathinone! :)
 
Xamkou said:
4-mec is possibly the dirtiest cathinone going. I suggest you give Methylone another go or see if you can locate some Flephedrone, that's a fun cathinone! :)
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I would politely disagree with this claim, even if drugs are subjective to user there are definitely dirtier chathinones out at the moment. Brephedrone? I mean I have even heard that 4-mec is less toxic than 4-mmc, I also personally prefer 4-mec to 4-mmc. Just as I view methylone as diet MDMA, I see 4-mec as diet 4-mmc, chiller, not as rushy, not as manic. Maybe a bit harsher on the sinuses if your into that, but other than that a pretty solid substance if you ask me.
 
^ I would like to see a source for that piece of info! According to f&b (who is respected and well known around here), they are likely to be similar in toxicity. Only difference being you need twice the dose of 4-MEC to feel the same hit (even then it's lacking apparently).

4-BMC is said to be more toxic than 4-MMC, possibly the chemical that's being sold under the name "B2".
 
rockstar 69 said:
^ I would like to see a source for that piece of info! According to f&b (who is respected and well known around here), they are likely to be similar in toxicity. Only difference being you need twice the dose of 4-MEC to feel the same hit (even then it's lacking apparently).

4-BMC is said to be more toxic than 4-MMC, possibly the chemical that's being sold under the name "B2".
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I dose the same as I do with 4-MEC, and still can get a very strong effect. I believe I saw it on here that someone stated that it appeared to look less toxic than 4-MMC. Also yes that was the point I was making, that brephedrone, or 4-BMC, is insanely bad cathinone out on the marker. I mean it seems like reports on 4-MEC are subjective, but I think it's a step far to say that it's the dirtiest cathinone out on the market.
 
rockstar 69 said:
^ I would like to see a source for that piece of info! According to f&b (who is respected and well known around here), they are likely to be similar in toxicity. Only difference being you need twice the dose of 4-MEC to feel the same hit (even then it's lacking apparently).

4-BMC is said to be more toxic than 4-MMC, possibly the chemical that's being sold under the name "B2".
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Really?! 4-MEC seemed very easy on the body and mind, even after consuming a full gram and not sleeping all night.
 
So far of all the cathinones I've read about 4-MEC is the one I'd be most interested in trying, personally. Someone had said it's like an MDA roll minus the psychedelia, if this claim is even a half truth I'd like to see for myself..
 
WTF to this thread and all the peope preferring 4MEC over 4MMC (THE HOLY GRAIL).....

4MEC is shite.

And why is this thread in psychedelic drugs?
 
^ Exactly my thoughts.

I believe I saw it on here that someone stated that it appeared to look less toxic than 4-MMC.
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As I said there is no source and this seems to me to be unfounded waffle. And lol at the dude saying 4-MMC is a straight stim that doesn't make you "roll", it's packed to the teeth with empathy and euphoria, chatting shit, jaw and eyes all over the shot! I hate it usually when people say this, but you got sold bunk 4-MMC I would say.

I'm seeing more and more 4-BMC advertised.
 
isnt 4bmc really horrible? health wise i remember reading only bad reports about it, and not even a worthy experience... might be thinking of the wrong chem though. 4bmc is brephedrone no?
 
Just get 4-MMC, the rest are pretenders to the crown, the sacrament, the divine gift from our Gods that is 4-MMC.
 
4-MMC is no longer widely available, anyway. Chances are if someone is selling you 4MMC it's actually 4MEC.
 
Mailmonkey said:
Just get 4-MMC, the rest are pretenders to the crown, the sacrament, the divine gift from our Gods that is 4-MMC.
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For me, the only amazing cathinones are 4-MMC and Methylone. MDPV is the substituted cathinone answer to crack. Flephedrone and 3-FMC are OK. Everything else is shit. I'm sure Methcathinone and Cathinone are good but who can get those?

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4-MMC is no longer widely available, anyway. Chances are if someone is selling you 4MMC it's actually 4MEC.
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I assume you're in the states? The UK had that problem after the ban but 4-MMC is returning big time as a street drug now
 
I'm in UK, but been out the loop for a few months. If it is 4MMC, i'm wondering where it's coming from, since china stopped producing (and began synthing 4MEC to replace it). Maybe local synths? What's the quality been like, if you've had it recently? There's been a fair few new RCs floating about too, at least one of which apparently has very similar effects to meph.
 
Mailmonkey said:
Just get 4-MMC, the rest are pretenders to the crown, the sacrament, the divine gift from our Gods that is 4-MMC.
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The crown? In my opinion Mephedrone is the ugly problem child that was spawned, in part, because of the banning of MDMA, a monstrosity that has not only wrecked havoc on people's lives but has also shined an unwanted spotlight on the RC scene. To each their own though I suppose, I mean I enjoyed 4-MMC, but really it is nothing compared to MDMA. Like I said I personally prefer 4-MEC over 4-MMC, it seems less forceful than 4-MMC, less conducive to compulsive redosing, less in your face and more mellow.

I do agree however that this thread really has no place in PD but should be moved to OD, but I am new here so I wouldn't really know.
 
It could be moved to OD, but simply put: we do not allow threads here that are clearly based on the question: I have access to A and B, which one to take?
Whatever background story there is, this is just a little bit over the line and I cannot moderate the thread to make it viable. Most is about comparisons and stuff, which in this context is not a plus.

But for what it's worth:
4-BMC (brephedrone) should be avoived even though there is little known about it. It is related to 4-Bromo(meth)amphetamine and 4-Bromo is the worst one among the haloamphetamine if I remember correctly. Reports say that people think it feels nice, well congratulations but what you may not be feeling is the balance of neurotransmitters and enzyme activity that can get disrupted and could potentially have a neurotoxic effect or eventually result in chronic depression or having your serotonin in the wrong place doing the wrong thing which would be similar to chronic mild serotonin syndrome if that is even really possible. Anyway what would happen exactly is a question but looking at analogues not one we want to find the answer to by using ourselves as labrats instead of actual labrats.
One vendor already removed it, another promised me to remove it but the scumbag has not lived up to his word. Screw him, a mail will be sent :(
 
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