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4-MEC - inexperienced - A pleasant stimulant / But pretty much weak as hell

bluedolphin

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So I acquired a gram of 4-MEC as a gift. It's appearance was clear white shards that were in the shape and size of rice.

I decided I'd dive right into the stuff. Sniffed about 50mg around 1:00pm. Shortly thereafter noticed a feeling of warmth in my body, and a relaxing but mild euphoria. Heart rate was barely elevated, and there were no other signs of physical distress, so I sniffed a bigger line, maybe 100mg.

Several minutes after that I found myself getting a bit more distracted at work. Euphoric feelings increased somewhat, but nothing like 4-MMC or MDMA. No further increase in pulse or blood pressure.

So I figured, if this stuff is weak and physically benign, I'm at least going to try to get as high as I can off this gram.

Around 4:30pm most of the initial effects had worn off, leaving me slightly stimulated but nothing major. So I figured this would be a good time to start taking some bigger doses and see if this drug actually has any real potential.

200mg insufflated. A few minutes after that I was actually feeling high. Not super high, but laying in bed felt very relaxing and comfortable. My heart rate at this point was probably not higher than 90bpm, which is of no concern to me.

Waited half an hour and then sniffed another 200mg. Several minutes after that I was gurning a little bit. Looked in the mirror and noticed some pupil dilation but nothing too extreme. I would have been confident passing myself off as completely sober.

My appetite was not affected and I ate a nice large supper.

So now I have like 400mg of the 4-MEC left. I was still insistant on getting as high as possible from this drug, and figured if I'd already done 600mg and not even experienced much euphoria, I might as well finish off the rest in the most effective way possible.

So I dissolved 100mg in warm water and plugged it. This came on fairly quickly, but again it was fairly mild. I now have 300mg left and I am tempted to plug it all in one go while I am still feeling the (relatively mild) effects of the previous sessions.

So I am going to do that now...

300mg 4-MEC solution squirted up the arse. This stuff kind of burns up there, but that feeling fades in a few minutes. Ten minutes later and I'm still not really that high, so I'll finish off the last 100mg. Heart rate still around 90bpm and I feel fine physically so I don't feel this is a reckless decision. Besides, what am I going to do with 100mg of the stuff left over? ;)

20 minutes later... wow my ass is burning like I need to take a serious Mexican food shit. I'm gonna hold it in for a while longer so it all absorbs before hitting the toilet. I have not really noticed myself getting much higher, except I am feeling kind of tingly. Not in a vasoconstrited way, just a nice mild buzz. Heart rate still 90bpm which is only like 30% higher than my resting pulse.

Well, I couldn't hold it in any longer. Took a fiery shit. I don't feel the effects building but I do feel a nice mild calm euphoria. I expect the effects to wear off completely within a couple hours.. as that seems to be about as long as each dose lasts.

I am now taking 3mg Etizolam to counteract any possible cracked-out feelings or sleeplessness later in the evening... although I feel like the comedown from 4-MEC is so mild that I wouldn't even really need the Etizolam.

All in all, I rate 4-MEC very lowly. It just didn't seem to ever get me very high at all, even in the large amount that I took. On the plus side, it seems very forgiving on both the mind and body. It is certainly no replacement for 4-MMC, which is vastly more potent and euphoric, as well as having strong empathogenic qualities.

I guess that's all to say about this one. Carry on :)
 
Good report. I cant imagine sticking that stuff up my ass. Stuff had the worst burn of anything I have ever snorted. And I pretty much agree with you that its nothing special.
 
the way i remember, it was never supposed to be anything world rocking. jsut a pleasant stim.

thanks for the report though!
 
I think my source for mephedrone got burned with this once. Looks pretty much the same and has the same start like the build up to something good but then it tapers off into a glorified caffeine high, stimulated but no epic hedonistic euphoria but leaves the same shitty comedown for some reason. There seems to be conflicting reports about this substance but I don't bother trying it seeing as it and mephedrone are both illegal in my country so I go for the 4-mmc.
 
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I tried it, seems ok. but nothing special. def gave me the shits though, and I didn't even plug it. I started feeling really heavy upon coming down too. I guess this is irrelevant and not comparable, but I preferred the 4-FA I got, longer lasting, more euphoric, more useable and energetic, and closer to a trance like euphoria. and a lot less of the shits.
 
Thanks for the report, this certainly saved me a few dollars on trying the shit out and being disappointed.

I'll stick to the fluoridated (sp?) amphetamine derivatives for the time being.
 
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I havent tried it yet but I think the reason you didnt get high from it is cuz you didnt drink any alcohol or listen to any music? (You didnt mention anything about this)

Please let us know if you did. Those are 2 key factors in getting high of weak shit. You need to mix other stuff with it.
 
I havent tried it yet but I think the reason you didnt get high from it is cuz you didnt drink any alcohol or listen to any music? (You didnt mention anything about this)


To anyone reading I'd be very wary of the above advice as these are new compounds to the collective human digestive tract with little known history of drug interactions and side effects.



Please let us know if you did. Those are 2 key factors in getting high of weak shit. You need to mix other stuff with it.

This is a highly subjective affirmation and should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
Jeezes anyone who rolls knows you need music. And alcohol mixes good with almost any drug. If you know your limits, you'll be fine. Many people have said alcohol and MEC mix well together. I even drink with opiates which can kill you, but Ive never been in danger of dying cuz i know the limits of myself. I've done it at least 1000 times. So no way in hell drinking with MEC is going to be dangerous for me. I dont drink a lot anyway. I guess if you drink too much, it can kill you on it's own, without mixing it with anything. I mean Im sure these people have common sense, they dont need a moderator telling them what to do with their life...lol

obviously people could give a crap about side effects if they are doing RC's anyway. There is little chance we are going to turn into dinosaurs 20 years down the line from some mutation. Just keep your body healthy and it will heal itself from drugs.
 
^still man I thought this is supposed to be a place for harm reduction. Even if someone appears to not care about their safety doesn't mean we can't still try to help them be safe as possible. Telling them to drink on untested chemicals is not HR. Then saying how you drink on opiates over 1000 times and that meant it was safe for you to use 4 MEC with alcohol... That's not necessarily true at all and also not a good suggestion....
 
^still man I thought this is supposed to be a place for harm reduction. Even if someone appears to not care about their safety doesn't mean we can't still try to help them be safe as possible. Telling them to drink on untested chemicals is not HR. Then saying how you drink on opiates over 1000 times and that meant it was safe for you to use 4 MEC with alcohol... That's not necessarily true at all and also not a good suggestion....


If its harm reduction then why cant anyone explain to me why we arent allowed to source? Sourcing would be excellent for harm reduction because lots of bad sites out there. Ive asked this many times, including to mods, and not a single answer yet.
 
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