i recently recieved some 4MEC crystals from a very reputable UK vendor. it was white, extremely fluffy and you can see the shards (crystals) in with the poweder chunks. they look like quartz cylinders really. i made the mistake of doing my first trial line, a 100 mg rail and i didnt break the shards into dust (ouch!) plus my throat and sinuses were extremely dry. it felt like sandpaper on the drip. but nothing too crazy, this was the harshest experience i had with it and i never had a nose bleed or anything. just alot of discomfort, possibly hives of some sort?
anyways its descent stuff. most people would only consider it novelty, cool enough to check out, but theres so many more promising chemicals out there... the best way to compare it, is it takes a few minutes to come on, and you get mixed effects from it. the most intense stimulation i got was comparable to the cleanest "rolly" cocaine buzz you can imagine. its not overpowering or pushy, but if you start looking for something in the closet, youll spend more time in there than u meant to. but its not like a dirty amphetamine where your mind races all over the place. its like a clean background stim. you can focus really well on stuff, think clearly, and it makes reading everything alot more interesting. but its clean and steady. its not nearly as euphoric as methylone, or talkative. if people refer to methylone (bk-mdma) as mdma light, i would refer to 4MEC as methylone ultra light.
now that i have a slight tolerance after blowing through most of a gram in a few weeks, i dont get as noticeable of a "rush" or comeup. im sure if i did more i probably would, but i am just going to take a week or so off and let my tolerance go back down. but when you get a really good effect from it, it is like a clean cocaine, with a mild roll feeling. music sounds really electric, you can get in deep, open conversations without getting speedy and overtalking, you can listen well too. to me, after about an hour in, when it mellows, it kinda becomes a lazy, sedated stimulation. your really chill but still have the positive feelings mentally. very crisp and clear.
as far as dosage goes i find lines around 75 mgs to work pretty well. i tried putting 225 mgs into a capsule and swallowed it on an empty stomach. i dont recommend using 4MEC orally. all it did was made me feel really lazy, and chill to listen to some music. it was almost dysphoric really. not toooo bad, but not really enjoyable. honestly like a weird limbo/inbetween worlds state. this was the only time i really experienced negative effects. i felt like i was cold and couldnt get warm and lasted until the high wore off, maybe 4 or 5 hours. not unbearable like the chills, but definitely uncomfortable. so i recommend just snorting this one. hope someone finds this helpful, and id really like to hear other peoples experiences, thoughts, and possibly even recommendations on this interesting, and seemingly promising chemical.
anyways its descent stuff. most people would only consider it novelty, cool enough to check out, but theres so many more promising chemicals out there... the best way to compare it, is it takes a few minutes to come on, and you get mixed effects from it. the most intense stimulation i got was comparable to the cleanest "rolly" cocaine buzz you can imagine. its not overpowering or pushy, but if you start looking for something in the closet, youll spend more time in there than u meant to. but its not like a dirty amphetamine where your mind races all over the place. its like a clean background stim. you can focus really well on stuff, think clearly, and it makes reading everything alot more interesting. but its clean and steady. its not nearly as euphoric as methylone, or talkative. if people refer to methylone (bk-mdma) as mdma light, i would refer to 4MEC as methylone ultra light.
now that i have a slight tolerance after blowing through most of a gram in a few weeks, i dont get as noticeable of a "rush" or comeup. im sure if i did more i probably would, but i am just going to take a week or so off and let my tolerance go back down. but when you get a really good effect from it, it is like a clean cocaine, with a mild roll feeling. music sounds really electric, you can get in deep, open conversations without getting speedy and overtalking, you can listen well too. to me, after about an hour in, when it mellows, it kinda becomes a lazy, sedated stimulation. your really chill but still have the positive feelings mentally. very crisp and clear.
as far as dosage goes i find lines around 75 mgs to work pretty well. i tried putting 225 mgs into a capsule and swallowed it on an empty stomach. i dont recommend using 4MEC orally. all it did was made me feel really lazy, and chill to listen to some music. it was almost dysphoric really. not toooo bad, but not really enjoyable. honestly like a weird limbo/inbetween worlds state. this was the only time i really experienced negative effects. i felt like i was cold and couldnt get warm and lasted until the high wore off, maybe 4 or 5 hours. not unbearable like the chills, but definitely uncomfortable. so i recommend just snorting this one. hope someone finds this helpful, and id really like to hear other peoples experiences, thoughts, and possibly even recommendations on this interesting, and seemingly promising chemical.