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(4-mec/ 100 mg) Experienced: Epic night of long distance chat and tunes

if people werent looking for the next mephedrone, 4mec could be the next big thing. methylone sucks ass, horrible ass in my opinion. drones illegal in many places, 4-fa can be hit or miss depending on the user, and mdma is obviously not as easy to get as research chemicals. 4mec was comparable to a slightly less psychedlic MDA to me, and at the prices 4mec is available for, thats a fucking steal.

besdies a slighy warming feeling, i felt no similarities to alcohol.
 
4-fa is my favorite "new" RC...it really has been around for ages just with the mephedrone bans popping up then it has become suddenly popular. And frankly I love 4-fa quite a bit.

M1 is not a bad drug it just is really lame compared to MDMA. Since I have no trouble with pure MDMA supply then I don't see a point of using M1. However mephedrone I still care about...access to MDMA does not make me less interested in mephedrone since mephedrone is not as "hard" of a drug IME.
 
girlygrrl said:
4-fa is my favorite "new" RC...it really has been around for ages just with the mephedrone bans popping up then it has become suddenly popular. And frankly I love 4-fa quite a bit.

M1 is not a bad drug it just is really lame compared to MDMA. Since I have no trouble with pure MDMA supply then I don't see a point of using M1. However mephedrone I still care about...access to MDMA does not make me less interested in mephedrone since mephedrone is not as "hard" of a drug IME.
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wowzerz....mhm
 
yeah to me though, what i love about MDMA is that its also a psychdelic. it creates a new headspace. the only enactogen RC ive come across that does that is 4mec and 4mmc. mec moreso than mmc. m1 and 4fa might be euphoric and stimulating, but they arent mind opening, or empathogenic in any way.
 
ok its going into storage for awhile after this final trial. It is so mdaish I would think it was e if i was a retard



Yesterday btw was the FIRST negative experiene, Slight Nausea......YUCKY........
 
A friend had a test last night, he is not farmiliar with 4mmc so it was a bit of an objective test.

He didn't consume a huge amount only around 100 mg or so. He descibed it as being good fun but not quite getting him "there" (which was interesting to me as he has no idea where there is having never sampled 4mmc !)

He did only consume a small amount but this feeling was consistent with other reports.

It was an enjoyable experiance for him, and he was able to sleep soundly soon after the effects wore off.

I'm going to sample myself soon enough but it seems at least that low doses leave the user "wanting" regardless of their desire for a 4mmc like high.
 
I think that sounds familiar. It's hard for me to imagine how it would feel if I hadn't taken 4-mmc previously, there is certainly a stimulant push that kicks in quickly with insufflation (am I correct to assume that your friend bombed it?) At that dose I think that whether or not you have sampled 4-mmc before this will give you a feeling of getting started without quite reaching your destination. Without pushing the analogy too far, it is as if you can see where you want to go and think 'maybe another 100mg will get me there'. If it were just a straight stim you'd probably think it was OK at 100mg but it is that promise of something more that keeps you dosing.
 
It was administered by insufflation,...

I'm waiting to have a go myself, I'm expecting not to get "there" even at higher doses.

I will be happy if it is fun in itself,... not happy if I'm always trying to peak and never can! We will see,..
 
Let us know how it goes. My own sweet spot is now 200mg bombed and 100mg insufflated, it can, as the thread title says, lead to an epic night of long distance chat and tunes :D
 
Hello,

Me and my BF take 4 MEC whenever possible. It's easy to overdo it, though. Just yesterday we did 3g in 24 hours. But everything's okay and it actually helps concentration (we had to stop to solve some work problems).

I've taken mephedrone oral and insufflated, I don't think it's a substitute but we enjoy the effects, it can leave you jumpy or if you want to just lay low and talk.

Edit : Just remembered I used to pass out easily on mephedrone, 4 mec is more manageable and doesnt get your pressure too low.
 
^i look forward to the 4fma TR, i havent found much conclusive on it yet.
if any vendors are listening, if you want a 4mmc replacement, make 2,4-methyl-methcathinone. ;)
 
sackynut said:
it made me want to, purely because its a very nice chem. its being hailed (by vendors of course) as a 4mmc replacement. this is in no way true. if anything i would call this an MDMA or MDA replacement. its an awesome chem, but if you come into the experience thinking "oh boy i cant wait for a meph-like experience" youre going to be thoroughly dissapointed. let all the 4mmc get out of your system before trying this stuff.

the problem is that while 4mmc "could be" considered a MDMA replacement, its not. Because you cant do MDMA all day every day for a week straight, and still be alright. Your brain would be mush, and your heart would be failing. I think a lot of people have lost sight of the fact that you cant abuse MDMA, but they think they can because they could abuse 4mmc and it felt the same. so everyones running around trying to fiend off enactogens, and its never going to work. the world got lucky with drone....its time to move on.

@girly: i like flux, but on the whole i prefer 4-mec. you cant do it as often at flux, but its effects i prefer. flux was like a very watered down 4mmc that kept me going. i cant sleep for 8 hours off the stuff, even if i dont feel it anymore. 4-mec, i could sleep within 1.5 hours of my last dose.
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I was doing MDMA up to 20x per month. And even back in the day when pills were much stronger I was dosing every other day. You're right I did fuck up my heart and brain. Although doctors said my heart was strong, but what do they know. I live with pains and tightness still. They said it was just anxiety.
 
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