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(4-mec/ 100 mg) Experienced: Epic night of long distance chat and tunes

Yes I agree with the last post but I also found 4-mec to be very psychedelic at around the 315mg range. Beautiful closed eyes that I wasn't too stimulated to focus on. I rather like this one now.
 
theotherside said:
Yes I agree with the last post but I also found 4-mec to be very psychedelic at around the 315mg range. Beautiful closed eyes that I wasn't too stimulated to focus on. I rather like this one now.
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I'm sure it would be at higher doses...I only did 65mg as a test. I'm very sensitive to cathinones and even 100mg of oral mephedrone is a strong trip for me.
 
theotherside said:
Yes I agree with the last post but I also found 4-mec to be very psychedelic at around the 315mg range. Beautiful closed eyes that I wasn't too stimulated to focus on. I rather like this one now.
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I was going to say something similar. Because that very thing happened to me during my second or third 4-mec experience. But I didnt mention it because I may have contaminated that line accidentally with MDA (yeah, im stupid sometimes.) so I scrapped that experience in terms of useful info. I didnt contaminate any of the 4mec that i mentioned in above posts, just my second experience with it, i may have accidentally mixed in some mda. I guess I didnt though, because I wasnt sure at the time, and it was very very similar to how you described.
 
Yeah I think the first time I tried it I didn't understand what the high was like. Once you figure it out it is a wonderful little "chill" chem. Add a little bud into the mix and you see sparks :)
 
it is a chill chem...I did find it a bit moreish, I redosed four times the other day. I had to wrap up warm in a blanket to fight off the vasoconstriction.
 
i didnt notice any vasoconstriction worse than 4mmc. i also didnt feel very more-ish, only slightly. i think once i didnt redose at all, and a few times i redosed once or twice. but everyones different!

@theotherside: i always smoke bud :), i just do it so often i forget to mention it, even though it is relevant.
 
sackynut said:
i didnt notice any vasoconstriction worse than 4mmc. i also didnt feel very more-ish, only slightly. i think once i didnt redose at all, and a few times i redosed once or twice. but everyones different!

@theotherside: i always smoke bud :), i just do it so often i forget to mention it, even though it is relevant.
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I found the vaso and desire to redose to be considerably stronger on 4mec than mephedrone...moreishness probably because its kinda boring and i got tons of it for free?
 
OK. What I said is how this chemical feels. I have never had 6-apb, but my raaat was damp before dosed. I gave him a tester that was about 15mgs weighed. It gave an almost instant rise in temperature and cloudyness but it wasn't bad. Time passes and its almost like you took some benzos basically I instantly thought Temazie warmth. Then it gets a little just bliss almost like a ketantideprsnt way like its really hard to put a finger on what was experienced but there was nothing DIRTY about it. Very clean, very THERE, but also very NOT. thats my 2 cents, ill throw 2 more tomorrow until then.....


I will add this lasted 5 hours maybe more, shit. I ALSO consumed 2 pints. Just beer, I dunno if this is why it lasted so long, but it was tested and is the real deal. Like I said My rat was a bit damp and wet before hand.:|
 
girlygrrl said:
I found the vaso and desire to redose to be considerably stronger on 4mec than mephedrone...moreishness probably because its kinda boring and i got tons of it for free?
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hmm, perhaps
a. youre right about the situation surrounding your use
b. one of us got cut/contaminated product

i got mine for free too and i definitely had that moreish feeling purely because of that, and also because it wore off somewhat quick due to my tolerance. but i think if a first-timer did a ~150mg dose and smoked a bowl, they would be floored for a good amount of time.

i have yet to come across a drug more more-ish than 4mmc, even cocaine in my experience has been on par with drone in terms of fiendishness, and ive had above-par coke before haha.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHprcs9TPKM listen to this shit after a boot



This stuff is niiiice.

40mgs weighed (90 actually split in 4 piles so I have accurate or somewhat accurate dosing) only because I have shit to do in a bit just wanted a lil mood enhancer....so im chatty....doesn't seem to be redose habit forming but im sure ill do it again tomorrow....who knows. I know the drip feels like shitty blow, comes on like it to, then u get a mda cloud head, and you can eat on it and shit, nothing weird. I think I may just take a break from writing a report for NOW, but tomorrow when I'm soaked up, I will let everyone in on a report.PS, compared to Mlone this stuff is WAY BETTER no real battle if flux is better than this I cannot wait.
 
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^ flux is better...I wrote up a huge TR on flux.

I binged on 4-mec all weekend and am not even that excited enough to write up a TR. It's not that I dislike it though. It just in no way is an adequate replacement for mephedrone.
 
it made me want to, purely because its a very nice chem. its being hailed (by vendors of course) as a 4mmc replacement. this is in no way true. if anything i would call this an MDMA or MDA replacement. its an awesome chem, but if you come into the experience thinking "oh boy i cant wait for a meph-like experience" youre going to be thoroughly dissapointed. let all the 4mmc get out of your system before trying this stuff.

the problem is that while 4mmc "could be" considered a MDMA replacement, its not. Because you cant do MDMA all day every day for a week straight, and still be alright. Your brain would be mush, and your heart would be failing. I think a lot of people have lost sight of the fact that you cant abuse MDMA, but they think they can because they could abuse 4mmc and it felt the same. so everyones running around trying to fiend off enactogens, and its never going to work. the world got lucky with drone....its time to move on.

@girly: i like flux, but on the whole i prefer 4-mec. you cant do it as often at flux, but its effects i prefer. flux was like a very watered down 4mmc that kept me going. i cant sleep for 8 hours off the stuff, even if i dont feel it anymore. 4-mec, i could sleep within 1.5 hours of my last dose.
 
I know its all subjective but I don't find mephedrone to be similar to pure MDMA at all...it really feels more like a euphoric caffeine replacement. It is so different from MDMA that I combo it with MDMA to have the meph euphoria added to the mix.

4-FA feels like an energetic MDMA afterglow at low doses.

Methylone feels like MDMA mixed with speed but it is missing the "magic" that mdma has (body high is about identical but the "spiritual connectedness" feeling just isn't there)

4-mec feels more like an alcohol buzz with clean headspace and empathetic emotions instead of alcohol mental dullness. Its enjoyable in the way alcohol is enjoyable. It also lacks the compulsive desire to socialize although socializing on it is enjoyable.
 
sackynut said:
it made me want to, purely because its a very nice chem. its being hailed (by vendors of course) as a 4mmc replacement. this is in no way true. if anything i would call this an MDMA or MDA replacement. its an awesome chem, but if you come into the experience thinking "oh boy i cant wait for a meph-like experience" youre going to be thoroughly dissapointed. let all the 4mmc get out of your system before trying this stuff.

the problem is that while 4mmc "could be" considered a MDMA replacement, its not. Because you cant do MDMA all day every day for a week straight, and still be alright. Your brain would be mush, and your heart would be failing. I think a lot of people have lost sight of the fact that you cant abuse MDMA, but they think they can because they could abuse 4mmc and it felt the same. so everyones running around trying to fiend off enactogens, and its never going to work. the world got lucky with drone....its time to move on.

@girly: i like flux, but on the whole i prefer 4-mec. you cant do it as often at flux, but its effects i prefer. flux was like a very watered down 4mmc that kept me going. i cant sleep for 8 hours off the stuff, even if i dont feel it anymore. 4-mec, i could sleep within 1.5 hours of my last dose.
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I dunno I really think the stuff is groovy...
 
since posting the TR that started this thread I have probably taken 4-mec every weekend, and it never ceases to impress me because the experiences can be so different. For instance, I have taken it with my partner and had fantastic empathic evenings of deep thoughtful conversations interspersed with a bit of dancing followed by cuddles followed by a walk by the river (at 5.30am). This was on a dose of 200mg each followed by another 200mg after three hours. On another occasion I have taken it with several friends and been up all night talking, listening to music and again the entactogenic qualities have been to the fore. Part of the fun has been watching 4-mec naive friends come up on it, seeing the smiles open up on their faces as they realise this isn't just another stim but something that goes further. Of course, YMMV.
 
4-mec really is not a bad drug...it is fun enough. It just isn't mephedrone or 4-fa or methylone or mdma and is really its own kind of experience. Good for chilling out and socializing, it is probably more fun than alcohol. Just it's not the next mind-blowing RC that's going to take the world by storm.
 
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