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(4-mec/ 100 mg) Experienced: Epic night of long distance chat and tunes

Silverfox

Bluelighter
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May 5, 2010
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I am experienced with MDMA, 4-mmc, 5-Meo-dalt, aMT and cannabis. In the previous week the only other substance consumed other than alcohol was MPA. In the previous month I had taken 4-mec on two other occasions.

My partner and I take 100mg of 4-mec dissolved in water at 8.30pm and chase it with a line of roughly the same amount. The lift from the line is almost immediate and feels nicely euphoric.

T+30 (9.00pm) We go to watch a programme about the making of Primal Scream’s Screamadelica on TV, an album that we both love so the hour passes nicely listening to the tracks and background stories. This is followed by another hour long programme playing back to back tracks from 1991 the year that the album was released, so we stay rooted and listen to lots of old school rave tunes.

T+2:30 (11.00pm) We are buzzing nicely and decide to leave TV land to have another hit of 4-mec and listen to some music, I insufflate around 100mg and my partner dabs the same amount over a period of 30 minutes. We start building some playlists on Spotify and at the same time my partner connects with some friends by IM and a chat session starts across three laptops (hers, mine and the one that is running Spotify). Time flies by and we are joined on the IM by my friend’s son who starts forwarding us links to dubstep tracks on YouTube and we send back our Trance selections. As my friend and his son are using the same IM address conversations become slightly random but someone comes out with the quote of the night which is ‘Dubstep is my opera’ this has me killing myself laughing.

T+5.00 (1.30am) My friend on the other end of the IM is flagging, he hasn't taken anything this evening apart from a line of MPA at 8.00 pm and he wants to sleep tonight, so a debate starts as to whether my partner and I should finish of the remainder of our gram. I pour it out and split it into two very fat lines, it does look a lot (afterwards I calculate that these must have been around 150mg each). The ‘should we shouldn’t we’ debate goes on for a while but I decide matters by hovering up the line nearest to me, job done. My partner snorts some and dabs the rest. Within 10 minutes my eyes are nearly on stalks and the grin is from ear to ear. The euphoria is awesome and the energy levels are off the scale. At some point I have taken my laptop out into the garden where I continue my messaging until it starts to rain. My partner has been looking up the acts playing at Global Gathering and decided we have to go so she is busy trying to book a campervan online. I point out the time is gone 2.00 am but she shrugs ‘so what’. We start playing tracks by all of the acts that we see are on at Global.

T+7.00 (3.30am) My friend’s son decides that it is time to call it a day too, and we can’t blame him as he wasn’t fueled up like we were, so we thank him for an heroic effort and appreciate the good tunes that he has sent out way. My partner and I know that there is going to be no sleep tonight and continue listening to a mix of trance and dubstep until the sky starts to get light. With our IM buddies in the UK off line she has turned her attention to our friends in India and starts trying to raise them for a chat.

T+9.00 (5.50am) Is it really that time? We have spoken to various buddies in India who think it is hysterical that we are still up (it is mid morning there) and we decide that although sleep won’t be an option some bed rest will be a good idea. We rest for a few hours then shower and get set for the day, a little jaded but after a good night’s sleep that night we are fine in the morning with no after effects.

This was a seriously fun night and going through the IM records the next day brings a smile to our faces as due to the time logging on IM we can follow our state of mind by looking at the tracks we were playing, the joys of technology.

I find the effects of 4-mec to be qualitatively indistinguishable from 4-mmc, albeit that more 4-mec is required for similar effects. On the other hand, when I used to indulge in 4-mmc at weekends I can’t recall ever taking a hit after 1.00 am because I always planned on getting some sleep and I never pulled an all nighter like this, call me a lightweight if you will, but my 4-mmc ‘sessions’ rarely went over 250-300 mg and I usually slept two to three hours after the last hit. I have tried to analyse the redosing with 4-mec and it wasn’t like the meph redose where you hit a flat spot and feel the need to get back up again. This was more a case of still being very high, but deciding to stay high for longer- if that makes sense.
 
4-MEC is illegal in the UK?
Why did they even release it then?

I thought it was supposed to be the shitty-but-legal alternative to 4-MMC.
 
so in the end you both took around 500mg? how much was it oral vs insufflated? and what were the effects from the oral roa?
 
Very interesting...

It seems then, like a pretty useless chem doesn't it?
Because you can also buy real 4-MMC from non-UK based companies.
 
4-MEC is illegal in the UK?
Why did they even release it then?

I thought it was supposed to be the shitty-but-legal alternative to 4-MMC.

It isn't shitty and it probably isn't legal but I can order online without any hassles so I am a happy bunny :)
 
so in the end you both took around 500mg? how much was it oral vs insufflated? and what were the effects from the oral roa?

Yes, I probably took slightly more and insufflated more of that, I think the oral vs nasal profile is similar to 4-mmc , insufflation gives more of a rush and is shorter lived, around one hour compared to two to three hours. Orally lasts longer but doesn't provide as much of a rush.
 
Very interesting...

It seems then, like a pretty useless chem doesn't it?
Because you can also buy real 4-MMC from non-UK based companies.

It isn't useless. The difference is that at the moment this is being shipped from within the UK, no customs involved. Yes, you can order 4-mmc from outside the UK but there is a bit of customs lottery involved, no?
 
Ah, I see. I thought someone said it wasn't being shipped from inside the UK.

So yeah, that all makes sense now. I was basing my statements on this post:
^^I dont think you can actually buy it from UK based companies though
 
^ Do you think it adequately compares to 4-MMC?

When I first discovered 4-mmc I loved it to bits, so I am not going to compare it to anything else lightly. If I could get pre-ban 4-mmc now as easily as I could 18 months ago I would, but I can't. 4-mec gives me the same buzz, I just need a bit more of it.
 
Good to know, as 4-MMC will likely be gone here in the US sooner than later as well.

Damn the government :p
 
When I first discovered 4-mmc I loved it to bits, so I am not going to compare it to anything else lightly. If I could get pre-ban 4-mmc now as easily as I could 18 months ago I would, but I can't. 4-mec gives me the same buzz, I just need a bit more of it.




^ after reading that, im definitely going to acquire some 4-mec. pre-ban was amazing. i miss it
 
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