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4-ho-mipt - retrospective - miprocin, better than the real deal

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miprocyn, better than the real deal

this is more of a summary of 4-ho-mipt's effects than an actual report.

comparing the effects of of 4ho-dmt to 4ho-mipt.

miprocyn is by far much stronger than psilocyn. best range is 15-45mg. at the lower range the effects seem weaker/shorter than shrooms but going just a little bit over can make the effects not only stronger but last ALOT longer. 20-25mg is the best for a good solid 5hr trip. 40-50mg can last upto 10-20hrs and while fun and VERY euphoric and enjoyable it can also be a bit much, and last kinda long.

It seems to have one up on shrooms. To me it's better, there are no negatives as far as I am concerned with this substance. No dark or depressing trips, no nausea at all, no bug out or mindfuck periods. It comes on quick, lasts a good amount of time, no cracked out lingering effects. Very positive headspace, nothing like -I cant be around people, look myself in the mirror, question my actions-no paranoia or anxiety/stress related signs. If you think your too crazy it will leave you fine once you start to descend from the trip.

music *****
erotic *****
energy *****
body *****
mind *****
synergy(ability to mix with ANY other drugs) *****
visuals *****
comedown *****
zero sickness/weird body sensations
fluxuation/consistantcy(person to person comparability/differences) *****
safety - I wouldn't recomend taking more than 40mg, it's so unneccessary, unlike shrooms you cant really take alot, I would be worried about being too far out of reality aslong as this is known than everything's cool.
tolerance doesnt seem to be much of an issue either, to me it's right up with ayahuasca in enjoyability it feels right, effects are very consistant. And none of the maoi issues gives it an advantage. Some poeple get sick with ayahuasca too, that maybe a familiarity/preparation issue tho.

this is a winner in my book

so far the best trips I've had are (in order from best to worst)miprocyn in chocolate,ayahuasca in warm strawberry milk,and 2cp drank or smoked in terms of the above mentioned 1-5* catagories
 
interesting I too enjoyed miprocin very much yet I havn't got a chance to listen to music on it yet but thats soon to change in a few weeks :)

One thing that differnciated w/ me is that there was some nausea on the comeup which I don't get with psilocybin.

I'm curious to what drugs you have mixed with miprocin. Care to elaborate?
 
I got quite alot of paranoia on mixing weed on the comedown, so be careful also was very clumsy....Miprocin and Weed synergy extremely well but be sure not too smoke too much weed.
 
45mg is a lot! I've also noticed that increasing the dosage past about 16mg not only makes the trip stronger, but also extends the duration.

Miprocin does have side effects for many people though:

> Nausea / vomiting (uncommon, increases with higher dosages).
> Diarrhea (more common for people who have this problem with other tryptamines).
> Gas / burping / bloating.
> Pupil dilation.
> Feeling of having a "lump in your throat."
> Increased body temperature / feeling warm or hot.
> Headache (uncommon, usually happens after the come-down).
> Trembling / shaking (uncommon, similar to what many people get on 4-HO-DET and 4-HO-DiPT, but much less severe).
> Feeling of having to urinate frequently, but you may not be able to.
> Jaw clenching.

I find the miprocin trip is the best outside at night.
 
I was almost out of my head at 12mgs, mind you I was at a fireworks display on the 4th of July around a crowd of people. However, it was still quite strong. I think 16-20mgs would be the most I'd go with this one. However, I am aware that there are potency issues with some of the batches of 4-HO-MiPT that are out there.
 
I can usually tolerate higher end dosages and be comfortable with tripping extremely hard. Miprocyn's dosages have all been about the same, taking the higher end ones extends the duration like 10 fold , tripping that hard for that long can be a little unnerving altho surprisingly nobody has yet bugged out/had a bad trip that I know of. I haven't flipped on it yet(mixed it with xtc) but it goes well with PCP and K, and my friend had positive results with crack and heroin which I'd never touch.
 
I was almost out of my head at 12mgs, mind you I was at a fireworks display on the 4th of July around a crowd of people. However, it was still quite strong. I think 16-20mgs would be the most I'd go with this one. However, I am aware that there are potency issues with some of the batches of 4-HO-MiPT that are out there.
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Yeah I thought it was pretty strong too, with about every 4mg of miprocin to be equivilent to about 1 gram of shrooms. And someone in tihkal found 20mg miprocin to be like about 50mg of psilocin.
 
I admit I don't have as many mushroom experiences as experiences with other psychedelics, but 4mg of 4-Ho-MiPT to 1 gram of 4-Ho-DMT-containing mushrooms? Not sure how that works, because 15mg was rather strong, but not 4-grams of mushies-strong. I realize potency varies, but two grams (or so) of the mushrooms I am familar with is a fair bit stronger than my 15mg miprocin trip was.
 
4-HO-MiPT and 4-HO-DiPT both carry very strong Tryptamine characteristics similar to those of Psilocin, but they are both quite different from eachother. This isn't exactly the right forum to discuss it though.

As for the higher dosages of this chemical, I wouldn't venture past 20mgs. I may not even go past 16mgs. The character of the drug probably fully reveals itself at around ~12-16mgs, so I find no reason to push the limits with myself. If I want a really intense trip, I'll eat a high dose of mushrooms. I prefer everything to be natural when I have trips to that intensity. I took 22mgs of 4-AcO-MiPT once, and that was extremely intense. I enjoy the lower doses better with the analogs, whereas I love all doses when it comes to actual Psilocybin/Psilocin. Mushrooms just seem so much more perfect when it comes to the higher levels.
 
I find Iprocin and Psilocin to be worlds apart - the former being subtle and generally positive, the latter being gross (as in, the opposite of subtle) and generally "dark". Never tried Miprocin to compare..
 
you find shrooms to be generally dark? Iprocin, though i love it so, basically turns me into a scatterbrain. Mushrooms have a whole profound different meaning to them that surpasses teh experience itself.
 
I imagine this would be fantastic to explore with the help of my good friend Ms Nitrous Oxide ;) Interesting that you say this doesn't have any of the dark side that mushrooms do, I personally think a benefit of mushrooms is the fine balance it walks there, it becomes much more rewarding when you finish your trip and evaluate. (subsequently indicating a small amount of shallowness compared to...)

anyway...

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I'm curious to what drugs you have mixed with miprocin. Care to elaborate?
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not to just jump in here. but.

firstly. a comment. the amounts i personally take are suited to myself and myself alone. this may be accounting to the following in no particular order.. without stress added to anyother more than anyother

experience

hardheadedness

stupidity






so the doses...

2ct7 (48mg) (+00.00)..

5meo dipt (23mg) (+04.30)

then the miprocin (19mg) (+09.00)

my second time with the 2ct7.. both times, disappointing (2ct2 was right on however).. both time over 45mg... dosed at 17.30, but the 2ct7 never really hit and kind of cowered there in the background until the 5meo dipt hit around 23.00 (dosed at 22.00. then it was like a proud grandfather in the background. strength. knowledge. longevity.

i took 5meo dipt once before when i djd at some "headphones" party in some apartment somewheres to be sort of webcast to other headphones parties elsewheres... i took 25mg and it was great. not overly strong but full on.

so with the dipt i got really zonked to some john coltrane (expressions) and faust's first lp.. coil's worship the glitch came in next. .. blood machine by steve roach.

around 2am i was up until dawn anyways so i took the miprocin (ive taken iprocin twice before around 40mg or so both times). i got rocked to an uncomplete album i found by someone or thing called kraken (ouch.. think of music made from porn, advertisements and filth.. true digital hardcore), waveform transmission and terre thaemlitz,. solid until 7am. heavy trip. not for people who dont get it.

the miprocin added a well enjoyed ass kicking to the already great 5meodipt and 2ct7 combo..

so .. basic that is all...what is there to say other than i didnt die and my mental health is as normal as before (or was it?).. no point in trying to vocalize the shearness of it all.

and if anyone feels like commented on my doses, stupidity, fact i didnt mention i dont use sitters, choice of music, etc etc etc... if it is full constructive and something we all can benefit from, please do. if however it is of a mr smelly dogooder nature... please send it private. so i can gawk at it with both horror, shame and adoration. thanks
 

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^^^ 2C-T-7 and 5-MeO-DiPT?? This is one combo that I would never, ever do. (Can you say, bodyload??).

I'm glad you're still alive and functioning :\
 
Who here has combined miprocin and LSD, and if so, what was your dosage/timing strategy?
 
^^^
Interesting question VictorBorge! My imagination is thinking the same thing!
If it is any thing like LSD and Mushrooms ; i'm game!

To bad there impossible for me to acquirer any longer:(
Peace
 
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