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4-Ho-MiPT (Miprocin) - First Time - Aura of Light

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Miprocin - First Time - Aura of Light

July 16, 2004
12mg of miprocin (4-Ho-MiPT, 4-hydroxy-N-methyl-N-isopropyltrypytamine)

My partner and I had been planning a stay-at-home-and-make-love trip for some time. As the afternoon wound down, and the daylight faded, we ruled out our original choice (2C-B) in favor of trying miprocin. We find that phenethylamines, like 2C-B, go better with daylight; while the indolic psychedelics, such as tryptamines like miprocin, seem more suited for the nighttime.

I tend to be very sensitive to tryptamines, and small dosages usually affect me quite profoundly. My partner has had only three tryptamine experiences…all with psilocybin mushrooms. With that, plus fact that the compound was new to both of us, and because we had read of its somewhat intense nature…we decided to dose low; I took twelve milligrams while she took thirteen.

The miprocin came on very smoothly. It did not take, but, fifteen minutes for each of us to feel an alert. Initially, I felt a warm, cozy glow that reminded me both of a glass of wine, and a small dosage of MDMA. Then, colors became intensely bright and neon-like; sky-blues and aquamarines dominated the color-spectrum. Beautiful grid-like patterns and textures dominated with eyes closed. Most pleasing was the lack of nausea and speediness that many of the synthetic psychedelics produce.

By the forty-five minute point, there was enormous time dilation. I remember looking at the clock, noting the time, and looking again not five minutes later thinking at least a half-hour had passed. I felt “stuck”, but the feeling was more interesting that uncomfortable. By the one hour point, the trip reminded me mostly of psilocybin mushrooms; the humor, the colors, and the relaxed body-feeling of psychedelic fungi were all there.

While my love was fiddling with our water filter in the kitchen, I lay down and inhaled some nitrous oxide. The gas propelled me out of my body for what seemed like eternity, but was in actuality only about thirty seconds. Most notable from the nitrous oxide were the strange buzzing, harmonic noises I heard, which lingered for some time after the main effects of the gas wore off.

When my love came back into the room, we started kissing. As I kissed her, beautiful, sparkly, firework-like visuals were produced behind closed eye-lids. Kissing quickly led to more. Miprocin enhanced the erotic to an incredible degree, and it again reminded me very much of mushrooms. Making love was a true sensory delight. The sensations, the smells, the sight of my love’s naked body with an aura of light around her were almost overwhelming. I made love to her with animal-like passion. But I also felt intense feelings of love and empathy. The words, “I love you”, must have left my lips a hundred times.

At times, I was seized with absolute fits of hysteria. My laughter was uncontrollable. I actually started laughing once while my partner was trying to initiate love making. I was not laughing at her, but I did end up having to explain myself so as not to offend her. At times I was laughing so hard, it was difficult to catch my breath. All of this, again, reminded me very much of psilocybin mushrooms.

The effects lasted for several hours, gently tapering off into a warm after-glow. The comedown was very gradual, although we both noted color enhancement for some time…well after the main effects died off. There was no residual stimulation or any body load after the trip; once again reminding me of mushrooms. This was very welcomed. We made love one more time, and then went to sleep around six hours after taking the psychedelic. Sleep came easily.

Conclusion:

I was really impressed with miprocin. At the same time, I noted that of all the 4-substituted tryptamines I have tried...this one was (for me) identical to psilocybin in nearly every way. The body feeling, the visuals, the mental effects, everything! In a sense, this is a negative. What is there to recommend this material over psilocybin? I am hard-pressed to answer that.

The only thing I can come up with is that one does not have to eat the rank-tasting mushrooms. Barring that little detail, I see little with miprocin that would drive me to choose this over the fungi. I do look forward to experimenting with it again however, but at a larger dosage. Perhaps at higher levels, properties that are unique from psilocybin will become more apparent. Either way, it was a very enjoyable experience and I consider miprocin an excellent material.


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Sounds like a contender!

morninggloryseed... surely you can be hard pressed to find *any* differences between Miprocin and mushrooms?

Did you get to go outside at all during your trip? Personally with mushrooms I feel a distinct presence of some guiding force being with me.

Did you experience any nausea? Would you say Miprocin is more or less prone to anxiety than shrooms? Would you say the buzz was identical?

...
Inquiring minds want to know! ;)
 
It sounds like you had an amazing experience, and you did a very good job at explaining the details. However, I will say, though I found Miprocin to have many similarities with mushrooms, I found plenty of differences at 12mgs. Mushrooms are extremely deep in an earthy way, and the body feeling flows deeper with mushrooms, yet unlike mushrooms, Miprocin has some sort of pleasurable "rolling" feeling. The feeling I'm speaking of felt so good at times that it began to take away from the actual profound quality of the experience. This is probably a preference thing, as I tend to sway away from psychedelics that just "feel good." If there is no fear, then it's probably not worth it for me. However, the fear was there with Miprocin. The visuals were of a different nature, and didn't seem as rich and hypnotic as the visuals from mushrooms. Also, for some reason, the erotic with Miprocin was awesome, and for me, sensual/sexual contact on mushrooms can be extremely strange. ..That's not to say that it isn't good with mushrooms, because it is, but it has a quality of "strangeness" to it that Miprocin did not. To finish up, I found Iprocin, Miprocin, and mushrooms all quite similar, but I did find Miprocin to have more similarities with mushrooms than Iprocin.
 
Thanks for the report MGS it was informative as always. The more I hear about this one the more interested I become.
 
Why am I starting to feel way behind the curve for not having tried miprocin yet? :) Ah well, I can be patient. Delayed gratification is what it's all about.

I'm very interested by MGS's statement about it being so similar to psilocybin. I've actually never done shrooms so I'm quite interested to try something that an experienced tripper believes to be very close.
 
bluedolphin said:
Sounds like a contender!

morninggloryseed... surely you can be hard pressed to find *any* differences between Miprocin and mushrooms?

Did you get to go outside at all during your trip? Personally with mushrooms I feel a distinct presence of some guiding force being with me.

Did you experience any nausea? Would you say Miprocin is more or less prone to anxiety than shrooms? Would you say the buzz was identical?

...
Inquiring minds want to know! ;)

:) I already answered every question you have asked in my report, except for the anxiety one.

I can honestly say psilocybin is not prone to produce any anxiety for me when I take it. At least not any more than LSD, morning glory, and other orally-consumed indoles. Mushrooms (and miprocin so far) are certainly much less likely for me to produce anxiety as compared to DPT and DMT and other short-acting tryptamines.

At 12mg, I found miprocin gentle and very easy to deal with. I'm sure that varies at higher dosages though, just like mushrooms, LSD, and the rest do too. As I mentioned in the report, I did not experience any nausea...and the body feelings were identical to me, as compared with psilocybin.

As far as a 'guiding force' being with me...I feel the presence of the guiding light on pretty much every psychedelic. To be honest, I always feel like there is something looking out for me...psychedelics or no psychedelics. Maybe I have guiding angels. =D

In retrospect, there was one difference...mushrooms produce a lot of reds, yellows, and oranges (for me). Both with eyes closed and open. Miprocin seemed to be more aquamarine and sky blue. But I just asked my girl (who tripped with me) and she said she saw mostly reds, yellows, and oranges with miprocin...so this obviously varies from person to person.

I always make it a point to appreciate each psychedelic for the unique properties it has to offer...not for how much alike it is to another psychedelic. Trust me...I would not compare any psychedelic to another, unless they truly were similar for me. And in the case of miprocin, it was nearly identical to me, as compared to psilocybin. Your mileage may vary.

MGS
 
^^
Your comment about seeing sky blue and aquamarine colors was what made me dig deeper for contrast between Miprocin and mushrooms. Aquamarine is my primary LSD color...

As for the rest, well, I have the short term memory of a lab rat :\ ... Mushrooms usually hit me with enough nausea and anxiety during the come-up stage that it usually keeps the first hour and a half after ingestion from being enjoyable.
 
As always MGS, excellent report!

I do agree that lower doses of Miprocin completely mimic Psilocybin.

However, two experiences, one with 18mg, and the other with 20mgs, have showed me quite a different experience from my 14mg "mushroom" dose. In fact, the dose/response curve with this stuff is absolutely mindblowing! At 20mg, with my eyes open, I watched a painting come to life. In fact, both times I've done 20mg, I have seen two separate paintings come to life. There are only two other drugs that have done this for me, 120mg of a-MT and 54mg of 5-MeO-a-MT. And oh, the toxicity that came with the latter!

I must say, this is the friendliest (bodywise) drug I have ever done, with its acetate ester coming in second. I find it to be MORE pleasant than Psilocin/Psilocybin, especially around the 14mg mark.

I recently tried an experiment at a friend's house party, a rolling party. I didn't want to roll this night so I decided to capsulize ~12mg of it and see how it "vibed" with the rolling kids.

Nobody knew that I wasn't on pills. In fact, at the peak, I was vibing so hard that I felt like I was rolling harder than I had before. And better yet, no jaw clench, no excessive heartbeat, no excessive sweating, upset stomach, nothing. No negatives whatsoever. And I "rolled" longer than anyone else. In fact, at one point, I was so messed up that they airplaned me, my eyes rolled in the back of my head and the neighbors down the street came over to make sure everything was cool on account of how loudly I was moaning. I was quite coherent through most of the experience, even with how completely fucked-up I was.

The funny thing is, I paid no attention to the visuals that night other than one very impressive visual the likes I have never seen before. I was staring at the wall for maybe 2 seconds and I saw this cat's face form. My eyes started wobbling and next thing I knew, the entire room had been spun into the wildest tracer/visual I had ever seen. The cat turned into a cat's head with a snake's tail, with sea green, lavender, and sky blue flowers inside of it.

The total experience was about 10 hours. I would say that 8 hours was the peak. And another welcome bonus, there was none of the up, down, up, down, up, down, etc., effect that I get with rolling. It was a straight plateau for the most part. There were only a few almost completely unnoticeable dips and inclines to the experience.

A full trip report will be arriving once I piece it all together.

Another note, the next day, I woke after 3 hours of sleep feeling completely refreshed. Later that night, I went to a party and was given one of my favorite pills. Normally, I take two of them. This night, luckily, I only took one. Once again, I was off my ass. Nowhere near as much as the previous night but it still trashed my first roll to pieces.

Interesting stuff, this 4-HO-MiPT.

I really wonder how 4-HO-MET will compare.
 
Even easier on the body than 2cc? If so this little piggys going to the market
 
StuckMojo said:
Even easier on the body than 2cc? If so this little piggys going to the market

That's a tough call, plus 2C-C and miprocin feel so different. But I'd say as nice as 2C-C feels, miprocin does feel even nicer. At least at the 12mg dosage I took. They are close though. Anyone else agree?
 
I don't know fully how 2C-C feels having only tried 15mgs, though with what little I felt, I couldn't imagine it feeling better than Miprocin. I always get a significant body trip with Tryptamines along with the psychological/visual aspect of the drug, but the Phenethylamines don't seem to have as much of the "feel good" body quality. Some do more than others, like 2C-C and 2C-D, but still not compared to Tryptamines, especially Miprocin. ..Actually I think my 6mg 2C-E trial had just as much if not more euphoria than Mirprocin at 12mgs. This was a one time strange quality of 2C-E though. I don't think I could ever get that back again. I had a full +++ on only 6mgs.
 
StuckMojo said:
Even easier on the body than 2cc? If so this little piggys going to the market

Definitely.

However, it truly depends on individual preference as well. I have a tendency to favor tryptamines over phens and tend to find myself on the edge a lot more with phens than tryptamines. That makes a little bit of a difference.

The body high though... has anyone noticed that this stuff makes you feel like you are melting into other objects or that you are losing body parts? It has this weird tingling numbness to it, which, while it can be pleasant, feels sort of off. I'm not the only one that got this either, both of my trip friends did too.

One of them walked outside and was like "dude, I lost my neck, I don't think it works anymore!" Then she burst out laughing. Classic mushroom trip if you ask me. She really was starting to freak out and then she just got the shroom giggles and it made it go away, fucking classic! :D
 
^^ I hardly ever think mixing PEAs and tryptamines is a good idea. It's like trying to mix light and dark: you end up with a muddy brown and fewer of the benefits of either one alone. Although if you're going to do it, those two sound like an OK combination to me.
 
^^^^^^

I 100% agree. I find such combinations pointless. The acception is MDMA and LSD. This combination is very worthwhile. Other than that, I find indoles and phenalkylamines to be contridictory.
 
VictorBorge said:
^^ I hardly ever think mixing PEAs and tryptamines is a good idea. It's like trying to mix light and dark: you end up with a muddy brown and fewer of the benefits of either one alone. Although if you're going to do it, those two sound like an OK combination to me.

Interesting....

Personally, I don't have a lot of experience mixing phenethylamines and tryptamines, but I am interested in doing so. So far my only combo of this type was 4-AcO-MiPT with 2ct2 and I didn't feel like they had contradictory effects. As a matter of fact, they seemed to compliment one another very well. I am very interested in trying 4-HO-MiPT with both 2cd and 2cc. Hopefully I will get around to it sometime this summer. I think 4-HO-MiPT will combine nicely with both of these phens given the character of the individual compounds.

How do you guys feel about 'like' combinations? Like two tryptamines or two phenethylamines?

Most of my expereinces with combos have been combinations of two substances of the same type. These have all been very positive experiences so far.

DPT and 4-HO-MiPT - Incredibly rich and intense expereince. Emotionally and metally profound. Visual candyland.

2cd and 2ct21 - 2cd by itself is 'nice', but it lacks depth and content for me. Adding 2ct21, adds quite a bit of depth to the expereince, making it more well-rounded. Very synergistic.

Other 'notable and noble' combos I tried:
DPT & 4-HO-DiPT
4-AcOMiPT & 4-HO-DiPT
2ce & 2ct21
2ct2 & 2ct21

As far as PEA combos go, so far, 2ct21 has mixed very well for me with 2cd, 2ce and 2ct2. I'm guessing it will play well with most of the phenetylamines and have nice synergy.

As far as the trytamines go, 4-AcO-MiPT seems to play well with others, as does 4-HO-DiPT. I have only tried 4-HO-MiPT in one combo so far, but I feel it will show good synergy with many of the others too.

Take care

-gp
 
^^ Out of curiosity, what were your dosages in the 2C-T-21 / 2C-D combo you tried? I'm thinking of going that route the next time I schedule an experiment.


I've mixed 4-HO-MiPT and 4-HO-DiPT together and had a VERY interesting time, but it's somewhat hard to discern the actual value of the added 4-HO-DiPT, as I ALWAYS find 4-HO-MiPT to be very interesting. =)


As far as the similarities to Psilocybin, I can see where you would draw that conclusion with lower dosages of Miprocin. On the other hand, I actually (Gasp, can I say this?) PREFER Miprocin to Psilocybin without a shadow of a doubt. I find that the depth I can achieve at 16-20mgs of Miprocin actually exceeds my stronger shroom trips (3-4 grams), and that Miprocin actually 'feels' better. I have fewer bodily concerns, and my ability to function physically is better than when on Psilocybin. I find Miprocin to be my favorite psychedelic these days next to good 'ol LSD (which I cannot find, and haven't found for over two years).


....So I guess that makes Miprocin (4-HO-MiPT) to be my 'favorite' psychedelic currently available to me...and I've tried just about all of them. ;)

Best,

...Ad
 
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AdInfinitum said:
^^ Out of curiosity, what were your dosages in the 2C-T-21 / 2C-D combo you tried? I'm thinking of going that route the next time I schedule an experiment.

My doses for the 2ct21/2cd combo were as follows:

2ct21 - 8mg
2cd - 42mg (taken 1 hour AFTER the 2ct21)

'Normal' doses of these compounds by themselves for me are about 12-14mg of 2ct21 and 50-60mg of 2cd. So I started a little lower for each of them.

I posted a bit of info on this combo in the 2cd thread if you want more detail on it. Taking the 2ct21 1 hour earlier than the 2cd seems to work well for me since it takes the 2ct21 longer to peak.

I was very pleased with this combo and I will be trying it again, but will probably bump the doses to 10mg of 2ct21 and 54mg 2cd. Depending on how it goes at this dose level, if needed, I will probably bump the 2cd higher and leave the 2ct21 at 10mg.

If you give it a try, let me know how you like it. I think it's an incredibly synergistic combo. Post a reply with your comments in the 2cd thread. ;)


AdInfinitum said:
....So I guess that makes Miprocin (4-HO-MiPT) to be my 'favorite' psychedelic currently available to me...and I've tried just about all of them. ;)

Yeah, I think I would agree with Ad here myself. There's still a few I need to try (primarily 5-MeO-DPT, 5-MeO-AMT) but I doubt I will like them any better than miprocin. It's just a very well-rounded compound compared to all the others I have tried.

I know I've mentioned before that even though I found 4-HO-MiPT mentally challenging at higher doses, I never found it dark. Others have mentioned a dark character. My last trip at 20mg, I did notice a dark side of the compound for the first time, but that doesn't make me like it any less. I find music is very influential to the character of the expereince when on 4-HO-MiPT and the dark thoughts I had (actually very dark) ocurred when I was listening to music that led me there. As soon as I realized what was going on and changed the music to something 'happy', the dark thoughts passed quickly.

-gp
 
georgiapoppy said:
How do you guys feel about 'like' combinations? Like two tryptamines or two phenethylamines?
I think this is where combinations can really get interesting. I haven't explored too many myself yet, but I've read, and believe I can sense, that combining 2-3 2C-X's, or a couple of 4-position tryptamines, can get really interesting and often feel like a different drug entirely.

BTW, it looks like my preferred supplier where I was planning to order miprocin may have just been shut down by the DEA. That is a major bummer in my life right now.
 
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