4-HO-MiPT/Cannabis/Ketamine - various exp - The Exaggerated Myriad of Emotions

[subdefy]

Age: 16
Medication(s): None
Substances:
20mg of Miprocin (4-HO-MiPT) - 2nd time using
25mg - 40mg of Ketamine - Never used in combo but know the effects of it alone
~10 hits of Cannabis - Experienced
12.5mg of Hydrocodone - First time using
Setting: Del Mar, CA // Beach and Local Canyons

T- 00:00 // Take a gelcap of 20mg of miprocin washed down with gatorade on an empty stomache. I put all the stuff in my pockets in the glove compartment of thecar since I tend to loose things while tripping easily. Also got some sour lifesavers which are one of my favorite trip toys for fuckiing with my senses.

T- 0:10 // Walking from our parking spot to the beach which is about 10 streets over. A strong feeling of nausea while coming up. Miprocin comes up very very fast alot faster then mushrooms and there is a significant amount of nausea but we continued walking because we wanted to reach the beach before the trip really started kicking in. I'm trying to keep my mind off the nausea thinking it might be psychosomatic. The switch from the streets of Del Mar into the sand helped ese my mind and nausea and we started heading down the beach away from the lights and people to a secluded part where there would be no one to disturb us.

T- ~0:30? // I am definitley tripping now. It feels as if I can't believe that I'm walking on the material I'm walking on. Sand looks very very fluid-like and very awesome It's amazing I can walk on this I keep thinking as I continue down. I look ahead and see the lights of the city ahead and its formed into some sort of christmas tree like object. The color could be compared to harle-quinn reneissance area with a christmas like shape to it.. The stars are very easy to see and my friend poitns out to where the orion is since I know nothing of astrology and I'm wowed by the stars. Now that I mention it everything I was looking at at this time was in a state of "Wow!" Eventually we found a rock to sit on.

T: ~1:00? // The lifeguard passes by and I get an intense sense of paranoia. This soon subsibes as he passes by and continues going down the beach but this is not the last we will see of him. My eyes are forced to go to bright lights and I strongly dislike bright lights on miprocin. I now completely understand while people go out to the wilderness to trip, to escape society and how fake it is. The waves look as if they have a zipper of rainbow on them and each individual zipper part is a different color of the rainbow, very awesome. If I was able to paint well I would be having a field day. I also feel tingly, my friend said its kind of similar to rolling the tingly feeling, Miprocin is also very very good for theraputic benefit. Felt like I could talk about any topic and I did from parents to religion. So far this has been a very good trip.

T: ~1:20? // Lifeguard rolls up and asks us what're we doing? We just said something like sitting around and I asked what time was curfew. It was at 11 we still had tons of time to fuck around. The lifeguard just left us alone after that. There are also random hot flashes which feel awesome. I now have a new respect for the beach and see how it is the greatest place to trip, the only thing that could add to this would be music which I'll remember for next time.

T: No idea what time it is, very hard to keep track // We decide it would be a good time to smoke since the miprocin well it's not coming down at all but we wanted something to do. He gets out the lightbulb vaporizor which works well for weed but just takes ahwile to light. It turns out to be far to windy to get a nice hit so we each get to what seems like a half a hit of vaporized weed. I can't really tell if I'm smoking on miprocin or not, I just taste the weed and breathe out something. I try one of these great sour lifesavers which are awesome trip toys. I put it in my mouth and instantly feels way awesome, this has definitley lifted my mood haha. Funny what one candy can do. So far I'm loving this trip, just been talking about issues lately and how to improve them. We both wanted to smoke so we decided to go back to the car and smoke a few bowls and meet up with my friend since it's probably getting late. As we leave the beach and slowly start coming into the city, I notice we are far from coming down. Walking through the city was definitley interesting very fear-and-loathing style. I noticied how ridiculous the stores were by trying so hard to sell you these material goods and I couldn't help but laugh uncontrollably at how funny it was. I also so a bunch of "bar people" chain-smoking who looked extremely fake to me. Eventually we got back to one street where there were some fruits called "gourds" my friend was telling me and if you dry them out you can make a rattle out of them. I though to myself what a perfect way to remember this trip so I grabbed one and put it in my pocket.

T- ~3:00 // Eventually we got to the street we were on and went looking for our car. At first we thought it got towed instantly horrible paranoid thoughts flew threw my head. This was the most cliche thing that would never happen but happened while tripping, I was so bummed my trip was messed up because of this He was asking me if I was SURE this was the street and it was since it was the last one before the mainroad and we parked on it. Luckily we remembered we parked further down. The strongest sense of relief came over me as we saw the car and entered it.

I decided to call up my friend since I thought I parked right next to house. His mom picked up and then got him , I told him to bring his pipe and hesaid he would be out in 15 minutes. We had enough weed to smoke 3 people out and get really high. The strain of the weed was Orange Krush, a sativa dominant strain. I was surpringsly looking forward to smoking which I never normally do since it usually gives me bad anxiety or leave sme cloudy headed for a few days but this was the first day of winter break so I decided to celebrate since I had a few days to recover afterwards. My other friend arrives and brings out the pipe after talking for a moment. After taking the first hit I was instantly tripping very hard again with many OEVs of patterns. I pass it off to him since there were 2 pipes going around, the one he brought and the lightbulb pipe. My friend who lives around there who we just met we'll call him K.

K knows of some places around which are very good for just laying down and chilling out and said it would be a good place for nitrous which we had. So I grabbed my sweatshirt and started heading in the direction. On the way over I was playing follow the leader and going up a hill felt super exaggerated like the persons legs were very tiny and they were going up this enormous hill which seemed to never end. Tasks were very difficult and strenuous. Trees look absolutly amazing and very pattern like. I see something resembles a swastika but is not like it its the closest thing I could identify it to from a tree reflecting on another tree. Everything I was looking at while tripping seemed to remind me of some cliche 70s tree with bubbly letters. Also while looking at plants with lots of leaves the leaves seemed to build upon each other. Eventually we reach the canyon and I have to use the bathroom so I go find a bush which is in the canyon to use real fast. I then comeback and decided to get out the nitrous. I get out the cracker which seemed fairly easy to use but I had never used it before, the people I was with assumed I had and when I told them I hadn't hey stepped back in fear guess it was a little more dangerous then I assumed. It was very dark at this time and while tripping with visuals was the stupidest thing I could attempt to operate a cracker which I had never used before sober whilst tripping in the dark. I put the balloon over and a bulb then closed it and the thing barely inflated. I started to unscrew it thinking the bulb had been wasted since I went to slow while puncturing it but I was very wrong as soon as I unscrewed it and took off the balloon it instantly shot out of my hand firing into the ground and leaving my in an utter state of shock and scared that I got frostbite on my hand. Luckily I did not but since I was tripping I did not grasp that concept. After examing my hand and moving it around I was lucky I did not get frostbite I just got the cold air which it shot out. Eventually I think I found out I had the bulb in the wrong way which caused it to shoot out. Guess that means no nitrous for the night But I am very happy nothing bad happened like frost bite. I couldn't get over what happened until about 30 minutes later. Eventually the people I was with calmed me down and deduced I was fine but to not use the cracker until I find someone who knows how to properly use it to show me how. Yes I am quite retard for trying to use a cracker I had never used sober whilst tripping in the dark in a canyon I am unfamiliar with. Oh well luckily I'm still ok and I've learned from my mistake.

I asked if we wanted to do ketamine there but he said theres an even better place so we left that area and headed off to another location at a nearby school playground. When we got to the school playground I just sat up against the fence did a bump gavve it to the next person he got a bump and so on. I think I got 2 bumps. I closed my eyes to see if I could see anything from it and I saw a tunnel with color which was pretty cool but I was still shaken from the nitrous thing and just sat there. After sitting around for ahwile we decided to get up and walk back to the car to smoke more and just chill out. My friend K had a bunch of vicodin from a surgery he had earlier said he would give me 15mg to take for the comedown. So we go tto the car and moved it into a better spot and then just smoked and listened to music. After getting extremely blazed I saw the most insane OEV. It was one of a jungle spirit is the best way to decribe it. He had a face and the trees surrounding him were protecting him with their arms. He was smiling at me.

T- ~6:00? // I deicde to take the 15mg of hydrocodone he gave me and then break them in half for better absorbtion because of less surface area or something. One half a pill slipped into the workings of the seat which would have been impossible to get since I was tripping and everyone else was just too high. So I took a total of 12.5mg. It kicked in about 15 - 20min later and practically all of my OEV were stopped and I was in a very sober mindstate in comparasion. I was very surprised by how effecient it worked. By this time I was exhausted and my friend K had to take off for an interview he had tomorrow. Then the other friend/driver I was with dropped me off at the school and I had to sleeep there for a few hours since I said I was going over to a friends and would walk home in the morning. Wasn't too bad, vicodin helped me pass out. Woke up the next day, went to mcdonalds got a hash brown, and then walked home and passed out.

What have I learned from this? Well don't try stupid things like nitrous cracker while tripping in the dark or else it could've been way way worse and never jinx yourself on how good a trip was. All in all I would say this was a good trip with a small time going wrong but eventually everything worked out for the best and I benefited from this. Still a little scattered as I write this but thats from the lack of sleep. Hope you enjoyed the report, I will definitly be trying miprocin again but not for at least a few months. This made me reflect alot. One thing I liked about miprocin that I noticed this time is its theraputic benefit seems to be very useful for opening up.


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[Psilo707]

VERY NICE REPORT!!!
Long and detailed, sounds like you had a good adventure. Yeah I wouldn't trip about that cracker thing, there could be much worse stuff happening on a trip
Hope that orange krush treats you well.. it sure does for me.

 

[Mean Girl]

I presume your take on "cracker" is just a little handmade thing? Ah....god bless bulberators. Awesome report though! I love that you didn't encounter any troubles talking to the lifeguard.

 

[shulginist]

Great report.

 

[psychonaut65]

nice report, your 16 like me! its nice to see someone else who can describe their thoughts coherently i have to say most people our age say "yeah that stuff got me proper fucked man." The miprocin sounds intersting; i love travelling to discreet and secluded settings for tripping it does have a noticable effect on the trip, waking up in the morning with no-one around after a trip is simply amazing.

peace

 

[subdefy]

I presume your take on "cracker" is just a little handmade thing? Ah....god bless bulberators. Awesome report though! I love that you didn't encounter any troubles talking to the lifeguard.

nah it wasn't handmade it was bought from a smokeshop but it sure looked handmade.

 

[VictorBorge]

Nice report man, I'm glad you wrote about it. I hope you go ahead and get a "bulberator" (i.e. dispenser), they're so much more user friendly. Although that depends on you being comfortable sharing a single nozzle with all your friends.

Del Mar Beach sounds like a great trip environment, I've been there but never tripping. It's gorgeous though, I can just picture it. I grew up by the ocean and I really miss it; Lake Michigan ain't the same.

Up with miprocin!

 

[hydrobromide]

Dual perspective trip report!

Total estimated time - 7:30pm to 4:30am

Another's perspective:

We had planned on taking 20mg of 4-HO-MiPT together a few weeks ago. We decided to have the experience in an outdoor environment since my best miprocin trips have been outdoors. By the time I arrived at the destination it was dark already. Luckily, it was not that cold. I found a place to park my car. We then swallowed one gel cap each (at about 7:30pm), containing 20mg 4-HO-MiPT. I opened my gel cap before I swallowed it, while Subdefy just took it normally. We then got all the stuff we wanted to take with us, and started walking to the beach.

Now my car was parked very close to the beach, but there was a cliff between us and the beach - so we had to walk to an area where we could safely walk down to the beach. Miprocin comes on faster than any other substance I've taken orally. I felt the first effects within 5-10 minutes. The comeup was a little nauseating, but I managed to keep on walking. I liked how all the plants around me looked. It was pretty amazing to me how much diversity in life there is.

On the way to the beach there was a little park area. It seemed pretty nice. I wanted to sit down on a bench to wait out my stomach discomfort, but we kept on walking. We noticed some drinking fountains at the park. They had three different heights, a tall one, a medium one, and one that was literally on the ground. We could not figure out why anyone would make a drinking fountain so low to the ground. It seemed too low even for a very small child.

When we got to the beach, I started to feel better. The beach seemed to have a very calming vibe to it. I remember saying that the ocean had a very gentle vibration to it, very calm and soothing. Walking on the sand and rocks was very strange. It was hard to tell if it was safe to walk on certain surfaces. Some looked like you would sink in like mud or something, but when I actually stepped on it, it was very hard.

I was seeing many detailed, colorful patterns on all the surfaces I looked at. Being outside when it's dark seems to be the best for getting the most visuals from Miprocin. We could see the lights of a city on a hill in the distance. Most of the lights were the common yellow-orange sodium vapor lights that you see in parking lots and stuff. Those lights seemed to be all wavy, and were moving around. There other colored lights as well, some probably were Christmas lights and stuff.

While walking down the beach, I saw a person walking towards us. All of the sudden, I see this strange animal run at me. For a second, I got kind of scared - but then I realized that it was just the person's dog.

After walking down the beach for a while, we decided that we were far away enough from everyone to be isolated. We find some rocks to sit on, and just chill out. We start to have conversations about various things. Miprocin is absolutely amazing in how it makes conversation flow easily. I felt like I was comfortable talking about anything!

While sitting on the rocks, we saw some lights from a truck driving down the beach. It passed us, but I was having too many visuals to tell what kind of truck it was. After a few more minutes it came by again. This time it stopped, and they shined a bright light on us. I was blinded! Some surfer-sounding guy asked us what we were doing there. I told him that we were just looking at the stars. He then said, "Just lookin' at the stars, uhuh...how old are you guys?" For some strange reason I replied, "Oh, I'm 18." even though I'm 20. I think Subdefy then said he was 17, and asked what time curfew was. The lifeguard said that it was 11pm. Then the guy drove off, and left us alone for the rest of the night. I looked at my phone and it was like 8 or 9 I think.

We decided that we wanted to smoke some weed soon after we calmed down from getting interrogated with bright lights. All I had in my pocket to smoke with was a home-made lightbulb vaporizer. It was too windy outside to keep the flame from the lighter in one place to get it to work.

After fooling around with the light bulb for a few minutes we decided to go back to my car and use the little metal pipe I had in there. The walk back to the car was kind of strange. When we got back to the point where there were people, the whole vibe changed. I didn't feel uncomfortable or anything though. I saw people at restaurants and bars, smoking and drinking, laughing and having a good time. Very weird to me. Subdefy kept commenting on how big my pupils were, and he couldn't get over how completely messed up I looked, haha.

Walking by the plants again, I saw a patch of gourds. These things are related to pumpkins and squash, but they are weeds. I think if you dry the fruit out, the seeds inside will make a rattle kind of.

One weird thing that happened on the way back is that Subdefy kept saying the word "cliche." Now earlier that day, before I even saw him, I was thinking a lot about that word. Just a coincidence I guess. I told Subdefy that I was wondering if there were any cliches about the word "cliche", but I didn't think so.

When we got back to the area were I parked my car, I couldn't find it. I started to get really REALLY stressed out, and paranoid. I thought that my car had been towed. The area were we at looked exactly where I parked my car, and we even checked to see if it was the right street - which it was. We eventually remembered that I parked my car further down the street. Once I sat down in my car I felt such an intense sense of relief. Subdefy then called up his friend that lives really close to where I parked my car. He comes out and we smoke some weed, which really brings the miprocin back in full force.

The new addition to our party suggests that we go walk around, which sounds good to me. We follow him and walk to a canyon area. It was a good excercise, since it was all uphill - but it felt good to get my blood pumping, and breathing deeply. Once we got to our destination, Subdefy brings out the Nitrous. Now I thought that he had used this cracker before, but I was wrong. I feel kind of bad and irresponsible for not making sure it was safe for him to be messing around with compressed gas while on psychedelic drugs. He screwed the cracker all the way, but it didn't puncture the bulb properly I don't think. The balloon had a very small amount of gas in it, but not nearly enough. He then tried unscrewing the cracker, and then it fully punctured the bulb, and all the compressed gas came out the side. The cracker shot across the field, and I was really scared the Subdefy had injured himself. I was really scared that I would have to take him to a hospital or something. After we all got calmed down, we decided that he wasn't injured...but we weren't going to be doing any nitrous that night.

We then walked to another location to do some Ketamine. We all sat down in a dark, quiet area and did a bump or two. The K made me almost immediately feel very relaxed and still. I sat back and closed my eyes. I felt like I was rising up over my body. Subdefy said he thought the area wasn't very good for K, it's too set and setting dependant. For me, it's not like that though. When I do K i could be in a very noisy, distracting environment - and still drift away. For me, on K, everything begins to stop existing. Everything fades away. K makes me stop thinking, complete cessation of all thought - everything just stops, and it is pure bliss. It's also very easy to snap out of that state at will, so I think if you keep trying to achieve that state, or keep thinking about it, it might not come?

The two others wanted to go, but I was still kind of enjoying the K. I got up, and my legs felt all wobbly, almost like robo-walking on DXM. I follow the other people, because I'm having a hard time seeing what is actually in front of me.

We eventually got back to the car. I moved it about 30 feet, to get it off the road into a parking lot. There was no one around, and I felt OK moving my car such a small distance. Time for more weed! We got pretty stoned in my car. The weed helps bring back the miprocing feeling, and visuals. I was looking at some letters that were painted on the wall in front of me. They were becoming 3D, and moving around.

After a while, I started to get a little paranoid about being in my car like that though. We didn't have anywhere else we could go though. Eventually after everything wore off (4:30am), I drove home. I really wanted to make it home before the sun came up. I made it home around 5:30am, and passed the fuck out. I had a really nice time.

 

[Cat Again]

4-ho mipt and ketamine. 2 things that are still on my to do list.
did you find that they have a good synergy?

 

[subdefy]

^ I guess, I would have to retry the combo when I was in a better mood. But the CEV was very cool and I would enjoy it way better if I was in a better mood.

 

[Ximot]

SWIM has used these two in synergy. Around the same amount of 4-ho-mipt, along with around 15-20mg of ketamine. To be done again, perhaps higher amount of both materials. SWIM said he liked it quite a bit and felt no physical danger from the combo and also enjoyed the headspace. Next time he might do the K earlier though and not just at the very tail end of the mipt, because when the K was tapering off, so was the 4-HO-MIPT, and he felt a little miserable by the 'fall'.