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4-HO-Dipt (Iprocin) 24mg- inexperienced - Not sure what to think
My experience
I have done a few other things, but this isnt a bragging list, so I am just putting what I feel is relevant.
DXM (pure powder 1g+), various mushroom kinds and doses, 2c-t-2, HBWR seeds, nitrous, weed, and faux lsd (which I believe was in fact 5 meo amt, but not sure)
This is my first trip report on bluelight, and I'll be the first to admit that its not particularly impressive. However, whenever I read other people's trip reports I never seem to get the same effects as them, in fact it happends to be nearly opposite a lot of the time. So maybe there is someone out there getting effects similar to mine.
11:00 PM
I used my very precise scale to weigh out 24mg, put in it capsule and swallowed it.
11 to 12PM I watch Fantasia 2000 DVD while laying down. Yes indeed this chem seems to come on fast, I feel growing tingling in my body similar to a comming up feeling (I probably could describe it better if I was doing this at the time of the trip). My stomach is unsinkable and I never puke on exotic psychs, however it was definitly hurting. It felt very swolen and hurt when I was laughing at some of the more funny images of Fantasia. Such as the poor unemployed man (I felt sorry for him as I am unemployed currently) who finds an apple on the street near a vendor. He is so hungry, but he chooses to be kind and think of others first and put the apple back on the stand. As he is about to put it back, the police officer shows up and grabs the apple from him (he runs off) police officer looks evil as always and then HE eats the apple. That bastard. Come to think of it that wasnt very funny, but I was laughing at other parts and my stomach did not appreciate it.
By probably what was 11:20 I was noticing visual effects of comming up, mainly that there was so much I was trying to look at visually and it was happening so fast, that I could not capture all of it. I often experience this sort of 'slowed vision' on some psychs its like tunnel vision, but becomes more extreme like during a scene with whales swimming around I would capture the shine of the light above on the back of one whale very intensely, but really completely miss the big picture of what was happening. Throughout the film I notice this and my mind begins to wander (which is probably why I stopped the movie short, that and I didnt want to spend the whole time just watching someone elses thoughts)
The whole time comming up (watching the movie) I felt what I figure is that tryptamine drive (which I always feel on mushrooms). Even though I was very comfortable laying down, I kept wanting to get up and go do something, explore, experience something. I felt very stimulated, my thoughts were wandering, and there was that drive, compelling me to do something, but I wasnt quite directed enough to be sure what at the time.
12 midnight (T + 1 hour) I go to the bathroom at this time expecting to be peaking and when I look in the mirror I have the ol tunnel vision. I see myself in the mirror, but I'm really only looking at my eyes, the rest is sort of background or out of focus. I am very taken back by the green and gold colors of my eyes though. It struck me as quite strange and made me feel very good because for some reason I thought I looked very beautiful. I was a very strange feeling, hard altogether to capture (because it't not exactly something I feel all the time) , but it felt good.
Walking seemed very strange but very doable. I put on some trance and techno that I love with the lights off and sit back. After listening for a while and feeling pretty good, I decide to try the music with head phones. Wow what a difference. Put on the headphones and closing your eyes definitly allows you to hear and appreciate all of the individual sounds that you may hear as only background noise during a song. I choose next to put on Pink Floyd "Piper at the gates of dawn" as Floyd has been growing on me recently.
I prepare a balloon of nitrous and take a rather large hit while looking at the visualizer on the computer. Wow again. Doesnt really add anything to the visual experience (which I felt to be pretty minor) but definitly sends my body through a very blissful experience that leaves me almost wanting to dance were my tehcno still on.
about 1 AM (T+2)
I am looking at my poster of van gogh -crowes over the wheatfields- and thinking about the colors and texture. The poster looks very amazing, even more than it does when I am sober, but I dont really feel much of a color amplification which seems to be everpresent and obvious with a standard 3.5 dose of cubensis or otherwise mushrooms.
I look at the poster and I am compelled to touch it, where the different colors are located. If anyone knows this picture it has a couple broad areas where it is essentially one color, but full of texture and shading. The sky is a dark looking blue, the corn very yellow, but with black of the crowes mixed in, down lower is a great patch of green, and then another of brown earth below it. My tunnel vision is very present here, because it is almost as if I can only look at one color at a time, and I am consumed by it or lost in it, hard to tell. I keep looking deeper, trying to grasp the complexity of each color, and as I look deeper I seem to discover more and more that I had not noticed or appreciated before.
I then feel drawn to touch the color, particuarly because of the texture and brush strokes which are strong and very visible. As I touch each color I get not only a different feeling, but a different texture. This is a flat poster on my wall, and according to all logic as I know it, the poster is flat paper, however moving from the blue sky to the yellow corn felt like a world of difference. The poster has enormous significance to me, at least partially because I went to Amsterdam with a very close friend and there I discovered Van Gogh's art, which has amazed me ever since.
I also had a whole train of thought about the man behind the work, painted frantically, striving for perfection, seizures, depression, what drove him to cut of his ear? (and eventual suicide) , how few people can even comprehend what the man was gonig through and wouldnt make a judgement or joke about it being idiodic to cut off one's ear. I was seeing that stupid host to Street Smarts (I dont watch much tv, but this show's idiocy amazes me and helps me understand why 90 percent of people cant name the vice president) and he was making some sarcastic or joking comment about being a dumb ass and cutting off your ear. Reminded me how shallow the media, pop culture, and unfortunately many people are. Not to say that I completely understand exactly what Van Gogh was feeling, but I dont write off or mock that which I don't understand.
2am (t+3 hours) I feel pretty stimulated still and I begin reading trip reports on bluelight to wind down and talk with some friends. I feel as if the trip is essentially over and while it never seemed like that much wihle it was going, I am left with a very nice afterglow feeling.
3am I still feel somewhat stimulated, buzzing in my head, but really pretty much down, all the way down.
Reflections
I can sing very great praise of the length of this tryptamine. There are times when the trip is so amazing I never want it to end, but often I feel like I am ready for it to end when it does. Then there are those times when the most stimulating portion of the experience is over but I still have many hours of diminishing effects before I am able to sleep. I absolutely loved how short lasting it was, in fact I would probably trip a lot more often if most trips were this short (of course time seemed long).
I found it pretty mentally stimulating, but it didn't make me emotional as mushrooms tend to do, and also it didnt push as hard, dealing with a very negative stimulous can definitly be curbed during one of my trips, but it is usually more difficult than it was with this. There was a push, but I could sway the direction fairly easily, it seemed directionless, not probing.
Visually- I hope I get some posts back on this because it confuses me.
People talk about shifting and great such hallucinations while on exotic psychs such as 2c-i and many others, but I have yet to experience this.
Between 2c-t-2 (18mg to 34) and 4 ho dipt (24mg), I feel the visuals to be completely uncharacteristic of a trip. I get the tunnel vision that comes with all my tripping, and I become focused and captivated by looking at certain things, but there isnt the MOVEMENT which I experience on other psychs. Don't misunderstand me to believe that this has made my experiences worthless. However, I do consider it to be part of tripping. And I would truely love to look at meaningful pictures such as my van gogh with stronger visual enhancement.
Having little experience with exotic psychs I wonder if it is just me, or is it a dosage/purity problem? I am not entirely sure. Any advice will be greatly appreciated by post or PM
thanks for reading
substancecode_4hodipt
explevel_inexperienced
My experience
I have done a few other things, but this isnt a bragging list, so I am just putting what I feel is relevant.
DXM (pure powder 1g+), various mushroom kinds and doses, 2c-t-2, HBWR seeds, nitrous, weed, and faux lsd (which I believe was in fact 5 meo amt, but not sure)
This is my first trip report on bluelight, and I'll be the first to admit that its not particularly impressive. However, whenever I read other people's trip reports I never seem to get the same effects as them, in fact it happends to be nearly opposite a lot of the time. So maybe there is someone out there getting effects similar to mine.
11:00 PM
I used my very precise scale to weigh out 24mg, put in it capsule and swallowed it.
11 to 12PM I watch Fantasia 2000 DVD while laying down. Yes indeed this chem seems to come on fast, I feel growing tingling in my body similar to a comming up feeling (I probably could describe it better if I was doing this at the time of the trip). My stomach is unsinkable and I never puke on exotic psychs, however it was definitly hurting. It felt very swolen and hurt when I was laughing at some of the more funny images of Fantasia. Such as the poor unemployed man (I felt sorry for him as I am unemployed currently) who finds an apple on the street near a vendor. He is so hungry, but he chooses to be kind and think of others first and put the apple back on the stand. As he is about to put it back, the police officer shows up and grabs the apple from him (he runs off) police officer looks evil as always and then HE eats the apple. That bastard. Come to think of it that wasnt very funny, but I was laughing at other parts and my stomach did not appreciate it.
By probably what was 11:20 I was noticing visual effects of comming up, mainly that there was so much I was trying to look at visually and it was happening so fast, that I could not capture all of it. I often experience this sort of 'slowed vision' on some psychs its like tunnel vision, but becomes more extreme like during a scene with whales swimming around I would capture the shine of the light above on the back of one whale very intensely, but really completely miss the big picture of what was happening. Throughout the film I notice this and my mind begins to wander (which is probably why I stopped the movie short, that and I didnt want to spend the whole time just watching someone elses thoughts)
The whole time comming up (watching the movie) I felt what I figure is that tryptamine drive (which I always feel on mushrooms). Even though I was very comfortable laying down, I kept wanting to get up and go do something, explore, experience something. I felt very stimulated, my thoughts were wandering, and there was that drive, compelling me to do something, but I wasnt quite directed enough to be sure what at the time.
12 midnight (T + 1 hour) I go to the bathroom at this time expecting to be peaking and when I look in the mirror I have the ol tunnel vision. I see myself in the mirror, but I'm really only looking at my eyes, the rest is sort of background or out of focus. I am very taken back by the green and gold colors of my eyes though. It struck me as quite strange and made me feel very good because for some reason I thought I looked very beautiful. I was a very strange feeling, hard altogether to capture (because it't not exactly something I feel all the time) , but it felt good.
Walking seemed very strange but very doable. I put on some trance and techno that I love with the lights off and sit back. After listening for a while and feeling pretty good, I decide to try the music with head phones. Wow what a difference. Put on the headphones and closing your eyes definitly allows you to hear and appreciate all of the individual sounds that you may hear as only background noise during a song. I choose next to put on Pink Floyd "Piper at the gates of dawn" as Floyd has been growing on me recently.
I prepare a balloon of nitrous and take a rather large hit while looking at the visualizer on the computer. Wow again. Doesnt really add anything to the visual experience (which I felt to be pretty minor) but definitly sends my body through a very blissful experience that leaves me almost wanting to dance were my tehcno still on.
about 1 AM (T+2)
I am looking at my poster of van gogh -crowes over the wheatfields- and thinking about the colors and texture. The poster looks very amazing, even more than it does when I am sober, but I dont really feel much of a color amplification which seems to be everpresent and obvious with a standard 3.5 dose of cubensis or otherwise mushrooms.
I look at the poster and I am compelled to touch it, where the different colors are located. If anyone knows this picture it has a couple broad areas where it is essentially one color, but full of texture and shading. The sky is a dark looking blue, the corn very yellow, but with black of the crowes mixed in, down lower is a great patch of green, and then another of brown earth below it. My tunnel vision is very present here, because it is almost as if I can only look at one color at a time, and I am consumed by it or lost in it, hard to tell. I keep looking deeper, trying to grasp the complexity of each color, and as I look deeper I seem to discover more and more that I had not noticed or appreciated before.
I then feel drawn to touch the color, particuarly because of the texture and brush strokes which are strong and very visible. As I touch each color I get not only a different feeling, but a different texture. This is a flat poster on my wall, and according to all logic as I know it, the poster is flat paper, however moving from the blue sky to the yellow corn felt like a world of difference. The poster has enormous significance to me, at least partially because I went to Amsterdam with a very close friend and there I discovered Van Gogh's art, which has amazed me ever since.
I also had a whole train of thought about the man behind the work, painted frantically, striving for perfection, seizures, depression, what drove him to cut of his ear? (and eventual suicide) , how few people can even comprehend what the man was gonig through and wouldnt make a judgement or joke about it being idiodic to cut off one's ear. I was seeing that stupid host to Street Smarts (I dont watch much tv, but this show's idiocy amazes me and helps me understand why 90 percent of people cant name the vice president) and he was making some sarcastic or joking comment about being a dumb ass and cutting off your ear. Reminded me how shallow the media, pop culture, and unfortunately many people are. Not to say that I completely understand exactly what Van Gogh was feeling, but I dont write off or mock that which I don't understand.
2am (t+3 hours) I feel pretty stimulated still and I begin reading trip reports on bluelight to wind down and talk with some friends. I feel as if the trip is essentially over and while it never seemed like that much wihle it was going, I am left with a very nice afterglow feeling.
3am I still feel somewhat stimulated, buzzing in my head, but really pretty much down, all the way down.
Reflections
I can sing very great praise of the length of this tryptamine. There are times when the trip is so amazing I never want it to end, but often I feel like I am ready for it to end when it does. Then there are those times when the most stimulating portion of the experience is over but I still have many hours of diminishing effects before I am able to sleep. I absolutely loved how short lasting it was, in fact I would probably trip a lot more often if most trips were this short (of course time seemed long).
I found it pretty mentally stimulating, but it didn't make me emotional as mushrooms tend to do, and also it didnt push as hard, dealing with a very negative stimulous can definitly be curbed during one of my trips, but it is usually more difficult than it was with this. There was a push, but I could sway the direction fairly easily, it seemed directionless, not probing.
Visually- I hope I get some posts back on this because it confuses me.
People talk about shifting and great such hallucinations while on exotic psychs such as 2c-i and many others, but I have yet to experience this.
Between 2c-t-2 (18mg to 34) and 4 ho dipt (24mg), I feel the visuals to be completely uncharacteristic of a trip. I get the tunnel vision that comes with all my tripping, and I become focused and captivated by looking at certain things, but there isnt the MOVEMENT which I experience on other psychs. Don't misunderstand me to believe that this has made my experiences worthless. However, I do consider it to be part of tripping. And I would truely love to look at meaningful pictures such as my van gogh with stronger visual enhancement.
Having little experience with exotic psychs I wonder if it is just me, or is it a dosage/purity problem? I am not entirely sure. Any advice will be greatly appreciated by post or PM
thanks for reading
substancecode_4hodipt
explevel_inexperienced
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) . I just don't want to have too many expectations, and just let it push me where I need to go, wherever that may be. Anyway, i'll have a report up after I give it a go.