4-HO-DET vs 5-MEO-MIPT

[《Plasticity》]

Anyone have any experiences with these two chems? Comparisons would be ideal but even if you you've only taken on or the other I'd like to here your experiences

 

[kidklmx]

Haven't done both but they're not really similar. 4-HO-DET is like a weird(er?) version of mushrooms AFAIK

As for 5-Meo-MiPT, it binds to 5HT1A, like MDMA, which releases oxytocin. In more normal terms, it's highly euphoric. It's kind of like a psychedelic cocaine, great for parties or gatherings. Enhances your sexual performance to the levels of a rockstar or maybe even beyond that.

But, you don't really trip if you do normal doses. Visual-wise, you mostly get a sort of "plastic wrapper" effect. There is a second, more analytical phase to the trip but it's just not something you do for deep insight or whatever. Like I said, great for parties or gatherings (or girlfriends )

 

[《Plasticity》]

Aha so it seems the 5-meo-mipt is more of a recreational drug such as what i consider"foxy" to be. The only thing is im weary of 5-meo tryptamines because they usually tend to be weak and cause unpleasant body loads. Can anyone comment on the bodyload of 5-meo-mipt? And regarding 4-ho-det, i generally read similar reports to what you describe, a weird shroomy trip with a more unpleasant body load along with tremors but then again I've also read some pretty glowing reports as well so im kinda stumped. I've already got 4-aco-dmt on its way so i think ima use tht for introspection and go with the 5-meo-mipt to use for more "recreational" situations. Still, more info would be appreciated

 

[kidklmx]

Yeah it's what everyone was making 5-MeO-DiPT to be, though with less visuals and a much cleaner bodyload. For some there is a bodyload, though not nearly as much as with other 5-MeO's. A bodyload does start creeping up the higher you get with your dosages, which gets more psychedelic the higher you go. Most won't go further than 12mg, I've only tried up to 8mg which is pretty much the perfect dose for me.

If you really want a more recreational trip though, this is not really the perfect chemical. It's psychedelic coke, in some ways it's not really a trip, but in other ways it really is. Pretty vague, but it's just not a "complete" psychedelic, especially not if your psychedelic palette consists of just 4-Aco-DMT. Really love the chemical though, and because it's so cheap you should just get a lower amount at first to see if it's for you.

If you're looking for something with a bit more recreational value than 4-Aco-DMT, but is still a real trip, then take a look at the B&D on the subject (2C-C and 4-HO-MET spring to mind)

 

[《Plasticity》]

Sorry i should have clarified, im very experienced with psychedelics. I am also not exactly looking for recreational psychedelic either i was just guessing what u said about 5-meo-mipt was more of a party type drug tht sounds similar to my foxy experiences which imo is purely recreational. Also I have not yet tried 4-aco-dmt but its on its way and from what i read its a more introspective trip similar to mushies so if 5-meo-mipt is like foxy than I'll pick some of that up to "lighten" up my stash but if 4-ho-det is a more "full" experience then i have no qualms picking that up first. Just the reports of bodyload and feel of 4-ho-det seem to vary from great to just plain weird.

 

[kidklmx]

Yeah, most prefer it to foxy (though less visual) and it really is lovely. I'm sure you got what I meant with it being a "incomplete" psychedelic if you tried 5-Meo-DiPT, but that doesn't mean it's an incomplete chemical. They're kind of aiming for the same thing, so if you liked foxy then it's pretty nice.

4-HO-DET doesn't seem that recreational to me, and it'll certainly be very similar to 4-Aco-DMT though more stimulating probably

 

[Solipsis]

Please explain why you want us to compare these compound... if it is because you want us to choose between compounds that happen to be available to you, that is not what we are here for and you should compare notes yourself independently by using the following:

- the Big & Dandy threads for each:

• 4-HO-DET
• 5-MeO-MiPT

- the Erowid experience reports:

• 4-HO-DET
• 5-MeO-MiPT

I'm quite sorry, we have a history of rules on comparisons and choosing for yourself and are okay with comparisons of compounds that are related.
But actually it shouldn't matter so much because a lot of comparisons would go like this anyway:
"4-HO-DET is like this, and 5-MeO-MiPT is like that", you can just put the available info side by side yourself and compare it all.
And if any questions are left, post them in PD, in existing threads if appropriate or if on a novel topic make a new thread.

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