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4-FMP + 5-MeO-DALT - first time - Smooth Start, Long Ride

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this one seems to be mostly a positive one. rat was pretreated with oral 10mg of 4-FMP at 4:40 p.m. to check for idiosyncaric intolerance. this amount proved threshold active without a doubt, which led the experimenter to dose the rat again with 130mg 1 hour later, than another 50mg at T3:00.

smoother transition to a more aware empathogenic state characterised by a uniform euphoria, clearer and more centered than that of MDMA / methylone, sustained over 4 hours, very central action, not much peripheral distortion, nystagmus or any somatic side effects. associative memory was easy, no visuals at all, highly motivational in a centered way.

the uniformity of peak gave way to slight cessasion evident now more as waves, whcih left the body tingling. music excellent although not as much as with some other chems, fully anorexic, some drive to sex, but unfortunately had to focus on other things such as writing a very technical report and the rat was able to do so with more eloquence and rapidly arising solutions than for the 12 hours preceding the dosing.

long duration, 1:00 a.m. still rocking. wanted to smoke some DMT on this stuff, obstained in favour of occasional augmentation with mj and Grolsch lagers (just started getting into them simply 'cause the name has 6 consonants) ad libidum.

4mg 5-MeO-DALT was given to the rat at T 5:30, which made things rounder and 3-d like like for awhile, with a not uncool temporary detachment from the 4-FMP buzz, but allowed the body to relax for a wonderful massage by the wife, reciprocated with newly restored energy and some far out discourse on the nature of nanotech / biotech conversion. this soon proved to be a transition to a jitter-free amphetamine state that enabled 5 more hours of dual language technical writing and a bit of modding.

music: Miles Davis Panthalassa remixes, Bob Marley the very early years, Dark Nebula (too scary), Simon Psotford Ambient Projects Vol 1, Cocteau Twins, Shpongle Nothing Lasts, Hallucinogen in Dub, Shulman, Sigur Ros.

4-FMP is 2 thumbs up, IMNSHO, empathogenic, conversation enabling, i just hope the duration of effects will not continue for much longer (8 hours so far) with 1.5 mg alprazolam having just a touch of smoothing action. cleaner feeling than methylone, although i dont know what the comedown will offer.

in the interim, it appears to be a good aid to psychothrapy (lots of suppressed stuff comin up in a nothreatening manner), at least in the precomedown stages.

just an update. this, to me poor rat, proved a damn long un. the rat was put to bed at 4 a.m., over 12 hours after administration. shallow sleep, hardly any REM.

the rat was awoken at 10 a.m., treated to a cone and realised it was still at +2 - and going strong. from this point on it was all downhill as all of the euphoric aspect was gone, but there were floaty dirty neon yellow / blue spots in the visual field and an acute desire to vomit, which when attempted accomplished little since little was in the stomach.

effects were at a +1 by 8 p.m., with alprazolam administered as needed throughout the day, and the rat could swear it was still off baseline THE NEXT morning - remaining visual heightened contrast.

total reliable duration in this rat - OVER 30 HOURS.

conclusion: the rat may have been overdosed given its predilection to chronic piracetam. the booster dose was completely unnecessary in hindsight.

the rat indicated that it - paradoxically - wants the compound again, but the dose, set and setting will be changed.
 
4-fluoro-amphetamine is a compound that I have always longed to test. It seems like the perfect mix of serotonergic and monoaminergic release--that is, it has the pharmacodynamics of (d)-amphetamine with a little bonus empathogenic 5-HT-mediated effect (yet without all of the serotonergic neurotoxicity of other 4-substituted amphetamines). Considering that I have been on 5-HT reuptake inhibitors for years, my chances of enjoying methylenedioxy-substituted amphetamines are nill. Hence, I mainly seek amphetaminergic compounds with a little psychedelic edge, such as the 2,5-dimethoxy-phenethylamines (2C-B, 2C-I) and the phenomenologically priceless speed 'n weed combination. 4-fluoro-amphetamine sounds just perfect--a stimulant and psychedelic-empathogen rolled into one! I wonder if the effects of 4-fluoro-amphetamine are stereospecific like those of the parent compound.
 
4-FMP is great! I took some at Infected Mushroom once :D


Its definately more centered than MDMA, I always used to tell people that its like MDMA and meth mixed together.

I've never tried 5-MeO-DALT though. Is it a "mushroom like" tryp?

Sounds like a good combo; maybe cut down on the number of dosings =D
 
yeh, 4-FA is a - ok, but tolerance develops. the other week i took 200mg and went to bed 2 hours later...
 
is 4-fa price even worth the high? I mean the dose is pretty high but is it worth spending money on or would I be better off with methamp / amp?
 
Did not care for this compound as it caused my eyes to do weird stuff. No matter, can't get it anymore anyway. Whatever, there is always meth.
 
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Not massive impressed with 4-FA either. It was OK (@120mg orally), but nothing to get too excited about - then again most entactogens (including MDMA) aren't something I get excited about.

With hindsight, it might have been better if I'd taken it in a more party atmosphere as taking it with one other person present didn't give it a full chance to shine
 
nice report. your writing style is like this japanese writer.. wrote Hard-Boiled Wonderland the End of the World. should check it out
 
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