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4-FMP (4-FA) - First Time, then Methylone - Second Time: Superbly relaxed

One of my favourite compounds. First time I tried it I was more or less overwhelmed with an euphoria that developed into high gear stimulation. Next time it felt more benign. Wish I had some.
 
djfriendly said:
What sort of doses produced those results, Xorkoth?
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I have used doses ranging from 100mg to 160mg orally. I also used 100mg rectally which seemed roughly equivalent to 150mg orally.
 
Thanks, Xor...we will be giving a sample of good quality 4FMP to our rabbits to see how it works out... I am not too concerned with them getting euphoria from it (it never hurts), but I have alot of work to do and if they could take care of it for me, that would be fantastic.
 
/\ just make sure you don't get too euphoric so you won't actually think the work doesn't doing..... adding methylone on top of the 4f is a surefire way to produce a euphoria unmatched by either 4f or m1 alone. absolutely amazing.
 
Ximot said:
/\ just make sure you don't get too euphoric so you won't actually think the work doesn't doing..... adding methylone on top of the 4f is a surefire way to produce a euphoria unmatched by either 4f or m1 alone. absolutely amazing.
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Damn, you're making me wish I had had some M1 before I ran through all my 4-FMP
 
I meant to say "so you won't actually think the work doesn't NEED doing" ... forgot the word "need" but hey... the good thing about 4F is is's alot less morish than M1 in my experience. Well, it does spark a desire in me to get more drugs into my system if I go down the hedonist route, and it seems many will combine well (M1 does, as does MDMA - now THAT euphoria is just crazy - and a few not too long-lasting phens and tryptamines) - seems the 4F provides a nicely smooth empathogenic, uplifting and sufficiently long-lasting carpet on which to lay bare the effects of all sorts of drugs, without being too stimulating or overpowering as to interfere too much with them.

But strangely, unlike M1 or MDMA, or even plain old amphetamine, I don't find 4F fiendy in the sense that I'd like to take more of it in the same session.
 
Too bad methylone is illegal where I live, sounds like a very toxic and enjoyable combo. :D The come-up on 170 mg 4-FA was pretty amazing on it's own - can imagine the combo... :D
 
/\ in some people there is a tendency to get carried away on the 4F come-up euophoria and to think that it would be a good time to add m1 already... on a recent roadtest, one such monkey added m1 to his 4F within two hours, and then they added several beers and then felt like adding more M1 around 4 hours after they'd added the first m1, so at about T+6... they then added copious amounts of energy drinks and coca cola because they were thirsty and felt like not having more beer.... instead of just drinking water... and, yeah, blame it on the energy drinks and the coca cola if you wish, but when they got home at 4am they couldn't sleep... all night no sleep... the monkey felt drained the next day. I am glad I am not said monkey, though I saw this monkey after they'd added the second M1 dose... and unlike before, this time they did not look like they were baseline (a reasonable dose of 4FA can easil< be concealed among baseline folks - they wouldn't suspect a thing). And no way the stare on that monkey's face was the stare of a sane person. it was the gurning, staring face of dopamine/serotonin overexcitement, mixed with drunken stupor... priceless ;)

YMMV, But I'd recommend keeping the M1 for a bit later than the monkey's first, when the initial 4F onslaught has quietened down a bit - but not as late as the monkey's second. I'd probably do only one M1 top-up anyway unless I felt like an 18hr+ ride ending in dyphoria.
 
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