4-fluorophenmetrazine Experience

[introverted]

So at around 6:47 PM I took 10 mg 4-fluorophenmetrazine and placed it in 20oz of tap water. I took one small sip after I made sure that the 4-fpm was dissolved. At and around 7pm there were no noticeable effects.



Placed about what I believe to be 10 mg inside of a glass bubble took one hit and it had a very familiar taste. If you understand what I’m saying out of a bubble. Other than that, there are no noticeable similarities to that similarity.

The effects of this amount went largely unnoticed and I fell asleep around 9 o clock.



Day 2



At 4am I drank the rest of the 10mg cup of water from the day before.

At 6 AM I left for work and I noticed that I was starting to feel a bit uneasy and queasy. I felt as tho that this had been too much for the first dose.



At around 6:30 I arrived at a gas station. I bought a sandwich and I ate it and started to feel much better.



6:53. I arrived at work and did a few chores. I feel queesy again so I’m going to sit down and close my eyes for a few minutes.



I kind of blanked out afterwards because I believe I was suffering from COVID-19. I’m not sure what to make of my first experience other than that it made me feel like it made me more sick than I actually was and I abstained from it for a whole week.



The next experience was on a Wednesday and I weighed out 7 mg split it in half into 2 lines and then insufflated 1/2 of the 7 mg

pile. At around the two hour mark, I noticed a slight mood lift and change in my overall well-being. I became more positive and my heart seemed to race a little bit faster.



I finally took the plunge and did a fair amount. I’m thinking in and around 50 mg total. I gotta say I’m not super impressed with the chemical. I don’t think it’s very good as a functional stimulant but definitely something you could use recreationally.

I definitely think it’s unique enough to experience if your way into stimulants. But if you’re looking for something to work and do chores on look elsewhere.

 

[4DQSAR]

Possibly the meta fluoro positional isomer would be more of a stimulant as it appears to confir more dopamagenic activity in related scaffolds.

But anything BUT an -F is bad news. Neurotoxicity creeps in.

 

[BorbOrB]

3fpm is commonly taken in the hundreds of mgs. Ive tried a few of these analogs and they have all requires 100-200 and even up to 300mgs to get full effects. 3cpm was very serotonergic and not very dopaminergic and tasted like chlorine vaped and wasn't very enjoyable.

 

[4DQSAR]

3fpm is commonly taken in the hundreds of mgs. Ive tried a few of these analogs and they have all requires 100-200 and even up to 300mgs to get full effects. 3cpm was very serotonergic and not very dopaminergic and tasted like chlorine vaped and wasn't very enjoyable.

I've mentioned this elsewhere but while bupropion (née ambuprefone) usually known as Wllbutrin™ is generally only usd medically as it's hydrochloride and hydrobromide addition salts, both have low solubility in water i.e. lower than 25mg/mL which is why snorting the stuff hurts so much. But it's the one cathinone that every single nation has invoked a loophole so it's a [POM] but not a [CD]. But bupropion sulfate has a solubility of over 300mg/mL and in bulk bupropion only costs $40-$100/Kg.

So if I were involved with selling dubious stimulants, I 100% WOULD be taking a very close look at bupropion sulfate. Every nation follows the UNODC list which states that it doesn't matter which salt, ALL are controlled so equally, if bupropion hydrochloride is just a [POM] so is bupropion sulfate.

I see two paths. Buy the cheap bupropion hydrochloride posing as a supplier or APIs or have bupropion sulfate made by a producer. Given the law doesn't care about the salt, if it was me, I would actually ask the producer to sign an NDA so that they aren't as likely to risk falling out with a bulk buyer by selling to others. For additional veracity, apply of a patent stating the sulftate salt has a clinical advantage. It's cheap (£200), lasts for twenty years and if the name on the patent application is the same as the name of the company ordering it, any sensible producer will see their possibly being the first to provide the salt in bulk.

Misrepresenting drugs is inherently a bad thing - I just assume if I know these things, so does anyone who is actually doing it.

After all, without instrumentation, who is to say what you really get. I just choose not to play the 'mystery powder game'.