Stimulants 4-Fluoromethylphenidate (4F-MPH) Megathread

[negrogesic]

I wasn't thinking about the appetite so much as the 'get of your ass and exercise' feeling more physical stims than meth can give.


In good news, it does seem to be available from Australian vendors though at a gobsmacking price. Lucky you only need 15-25 mg a dose is all I can say. Per dose it's more expensive than meth. Though seemingly with the added bonus of not totally destroying your life.

Cyclazodone might be another option and should be available in Australia. It is a pretty good functional stimulant and also a more powerful anorectic. N-methylcyclazodone is a big stronger and even has a serotonergic sparkle to it.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I was wrong in previous post about. It's not gobsmackingly expensive. It's ridiculously cheap. If a gram of meth contains 10 doses, the same money will get you 180 doses of 4f-mph at 25mg per dose.

 

[Vagabond696]

I wasn't thinking about the appetite so much as the 'get of your ass and exercise' feeling more physical stims than meth can give.


In good news, it does seem to be available from Australian vendors though

Oh good to know. Let us compare notes via PM?

 

[deficiT]

I guess I'm the lone ranger when it comes to 4fmph euphoric factor. I quite like a big fat bump after work hours, gives me similar head-fuzzys as a dose of blow. But then again, I was probably taking quite a bit at a time. Most recently I rolled through 5 grams in a pretty quick fashion. I definitely prefer it to methylphenidate. Not wildly euphoric after a couple doses by any means, but still good fun for me.

For functional stimulants I had much more luck with n-methyl-cyclazodone, as negro mentioned. But really if you are trying to bust through your tolerance, you could have success with either/or. Probably easier to find 4fmph. N-methyl-Cyclazodone is just much less compulsive and longer lasting ime.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Oh good to know. Let us compare notes via PM?

Notes on effects: da
Notes on sources: nyet

 

[Vagabond696]

Notes on effects: da
Notes on sources: nyet

Da, of course nein sourcing.

 

[negrogesic]

I guess I'm the lone ranger when it comes to 4fmph euphoric factor. I quite like a big fat bump after work hours, gives me similar head-fuzzys as a dose of blow. But then again, I was probably taking quite a bit at a time. Most recently I rolled through 5 grams in a pretty quick fashion. I definitely prefer it to methylphenidate. Not wildly euphoric after a couple doses by any means, but still good fun for me.

Thats very interesting. I much prefer methylphenidate. Methylphenidate is actually pretty abusable and euphoric but i didn’t get that from 4F-MPH.

I once had a pretty heavy methylphenidate addiction (160mg/day) and the first time I got a baggie of pure 4F-MPH powder i was a bit worried given my past history with methylphenidate. To both my relief and dismay I didn't find 4F-MPH to be nearly as reinforcing or addictive.

What type of doses do you snort for recreational purposes? Pushing the dose just made jumpy.

 

[deficiT]

Thats very interesting. I much prefer methylphenidate. Methylphenidate is actually pretty abusable and euphoric but i didn’t get that from 4F-MPH.

I once had a pretty heavy methylphenidate addiction (160mg/day) and the first time I got a baggie of pure 4F-MPH powder i was a bit worried given my past history with methylphenidate. To both my relief and dismay I didn't find 4F-MPH to be nearly as reinforcing or addictive.

What type of doses do you snort for recreational purposes? Pushing the dose just made jumpy.

I didn't push the dose to crazy territory but lingered around 30mg bumps for chillin outside of work, probably have 3-4 of those in a night. It's definitely more functional with oral dosing for me too. Take one oral dose in the morning and I'm a lot less likely to redose frequently.

I have a lot less experience with regular Methylphenidate, so grain of salt and all. Only really had it a couple times.

 

[Xorkoth]

Oh good to know. Let us compare notes via PM?

As you know, source discussion is against the rules, even privately through PMs.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I once had a pretty heavy methylphenidate addiction (160mg/day) and the first time I got a baggie of pure 4F-MPH powder i was a bit worried given my past history with methylphenidate. To both my relief and dismay I didn't find 4F-MPH to be nearly as reinforcing or addictive.

Ive got some 4f-mph as well as some isopropylphenidate on the way. First time trying either one, but I had a couple fun times with ethylphenidate years back. I don't think I've sever actually had regular mph though...

anyways, I truly hope I don't find 4f-mph too reinforcing or addictive. I tend to find most stimulants that way, though, even the ones most people say aren't that way. I am going to try making them into solutions to hopefully make it less likely that I start snorting or vaping these. If I have to to, I'm prepared to flush at any moment.

but fingers crossed these actually work well. I'd much rather use them functionally then cyclazodone/nmc. Those two work great for me but I'm always concerned about potential liver issues especially when I get into using them daily for stretches. I don't tend to have control issues with them, here's hoping the same applies to me with 4f-mph and ipph

 

[negrogesic]

Ive got some 4f-mph as well as some isopropylphenidate on the way. First time trying either one, but I had a couple fun times with ethylphenidate years back. I don't think I've sever actually had regular mph though...

anyways, I truly hope I don't find 4f-mph too reinforcing or addictive. I tend to find most stimulants that way, though, even the ones most people say aren't that way. I am going to try making them into solutions to hopefully make it less likely that I start snorting or vaping these. If I have to to, I'm prepared to flush at any moment.

but fingers crossed these actually work well. I'd much rather use them functionally then cyclazodone/nmc. Those two work great for me but I'm always concerned about potential liver issues especially when I get into using them daily for stretches. I don't tend to have control issues with them, here's hoping the same applies to me with 4f-mph and ipph

Isopropylphenidate has zero abuse potential and 4F-MPH has limited abuse potential, in my experience. It is nothing close to methylphenidate or ethylphenidate in terms of abuse potential (for which i was both glad and disappointed).

 

[Vagabond696]

As you know, source discussion is against the rules, even privately through PMs.

Yessir! No intention of sourcing.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

As long as they don't have too much of a sexual push then I should be ok. This is where I tend to get into problems with stimulants: take dose, notice increase in sexual interest, start watching porn, think "this would be better with moar", start vaping/snorting while continuing to watch porn, several days of no sleep/food fly by and I'm hanging out with shadow people.

by all accounts these two shouldn't be too problematic for me. IPPH least of all. I bought the smallest amounts possible just in case and if I notice problems then I will stop and flush.

Should be here any day now, I'll report back to help flesh out this thread with some more reports after a week or so of experiments. @Atelier3 have you decided to move forward and start experimenting with 4f-mph? I'm curious to hear how it goes for you if you do.

 

[Jabberwocky]

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Should be here any day now, I'll report back to help flesh out this thread with some more reports after a week or so of experiments. @Atelier3 have you decided to move forward and start experimenting with 4f-mph? I'm curious to hear how it goes for you if you do.

I’m hesitant to move forward despite having found a reliable vendor. Firstly, the minimum order size is 7g and that costs a few hundred bucks. Given I got very jittery on methylphenidate when i was prescribed it I’d like a much smaller sample of 4f-mph to see if it works. However, from all my research it seems like the ideal functional stimulant in all other respects. Not having pro-sexual effects is important to me. I lost too much of my life to meth fapfests and brothel-creeping. I really just need to punch through my brain fog and get me thesis finished. ANd do more exercise.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Mine showed up a few hours after my last post. Both isopropylphenidate and 4f-mph, also have some 3-ho-pce and tomorrow some bromazolam shows up as well. All new chems to me, I'm excited

I gave the isopropylphenidate a try today but at barely threshold dosage . Not trying to rush into this, so I'll work my way slowly through the stims (dosing orally once a day in increasing doses, first one then the other) so it'll probably be a bit before I can offer a proper opinion here.

I put them both into water immediately and will be adding some alcohol to prevent bacteria. Don't want the temptation to use them by more fun routes, being in solutions won't prevent this but will hopefully deter it. This is probably unnecessary for the these two stims but I'd rather take the precaution.

I did keep a small amount of each out as powder. I can't help it, curiosity demands I always try vaping and snorting ever new stim I run across, but atleast this way the majority of it will be used orally.

The isopropylphenidate reminds me soooo much of ethylphenidate. The way it tastes, smells, looks and feels (in the mouth and throat - haven't dosed enough yet to compare the actual effects of the drug). I tried vaporizing a tiny amount and the vapor produced is almost a dead ringer to the way ethylphenidate vapor tastes/smelt/felt (Though I never liked vaping that one, it was much better oral or nasal).

Did the same vape test on a tiny bit of the 4f-mph, it also has a similar x-phenidate smell/taste/feel but also a bit different. It actually had a tinge to it of the way some pyros smell, most notably a-pcyp. Not overwhelmingly so, just a hint of it. Don't know if this is normal smell for 4f-mph or if maybe it is contaminated with something like a-pcyp. I'd love to send it in for testing (all of them actually) but its not really practical to do so here in the states especially with the small amounts I have.

Tomorrow I take 20mg of isopropylphenidate orally in the morning then try getting through a bunch of paperwork I've been avoiding

 

[negrogesic]

Mine showed up a few hours after my last post. Both isopropylphenidate and 4f-mph, also have some 3-ho-pce and tomorrow some bromazolam shows up as well. All new chems to me, I'm excited

I gave the isopropylphenidate a try today but at barely threshold dosage . Not trying to rush into this, so I'll work my way slowly through the stims (dosing orally once a day in increasing doses, first one then the other) so it'll probably be a bit before I can offer a proper opinion here.

I put them both into water immediately and will be adding some alcohol to prevent bacteria. Don't want the temptation to use them by more fun routes, being in solutions won't prevent this but will hopefully deter it. This is probably unnecessary for the these two stims but I'd rather take the precaution.

I did keep a small amount of each out as powder. I can't help it, curiosity demands I always try vaping and snorting ever new stim I run across, but atleast this way the majority of it will be used orally.

The isopropylphenidate reminds me soooo much of ethylphenidate. The way it tastes, smells, looks and feels (in the mouth and throat - haven't dosed enough yet to compare the actual effects of the drug). I tried vaporizing a tiny amount and the vapor produced is almost a dead ringer to the way ethylphenidate vapor tastes/smelt/felt (Though I never liked vaping that one, it was much better oral or nasal).

Did the same vape test on a tiny bit of the 4f-mph, it also has a similar x-phenidate smell/taste/feel but also a bit different. It actually had a tinge to it of the way some pyros smell, most notably a-pcyp. Not overwhelmingly so, just a hint of it. Don't know if this is normal smell for 4f-mph or if maybe it is contaminated with something like a-pcyp. I'd love to send it in for testing (all of them actually) but its not really practical to do so here in the states especially with the small amounts I have.

Tomorrow I take 20mg of isopropylphenidate orally in the morning then try getting through a bunch of paperwork I've been avoiding

Don't vaporize isopropylphenidate or 4f-mph, it doesn't work well. At best you'll get a bit anxious and frazzled. The mothball like smell is an indicator that it shouldn't be smoked. And I'm prone to smoking anything.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

Don't vaporize isopropylphenidate or 4f-mph, it doesn't work well. At best you'll get a bit anxious and frazzled. The mothball like smell is an indicator that it shouldn't be smoked. And I'm prone to smoking anything.

Definitely good advice and I'm not planning on it. I wasn't vaporizing it to actually get a hit, more just to get a sense of the taste, smell and feel. We're talking like 2-3mg worth and I didn't even fully inhale, it was more of just test then anything. Can't help it, I just am always curious how a powder melts, runs, vaporizes and smells when it comes to stims. Kinda like a needle fixation for an IV user I suppose.

I only ever tried vaporizing ethylphenidate to get high once. The vapor is so awful and it doesn't work well like you said. Never repeated it after that one time but that smell/taste/feel of the vapor is forever etched in my mind. As soon as I smelled the isopropylphenidate vapor the memory flooded back in crystal clear.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

3. How compulsive is the redosing? I never felt a desire to de-dose ritalin.

4. I never liked Ritalin because it made me kind of jittery. No other stims ever had that effect on me. Would one expect the same effect with 4-FMPH?

The compulsiveness of Methylphenidate was ime way less.

The side effects you list. The main reason i hate Ritalin. Are or way less pronounced or simply not there.

Another advantage over regular MPH is it doesn't have the steep up and down effect of the parent compound. Overal it seems like an improved version. But Amphetamine's are better imo.

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

I think I am in love 4f-mph

An oral dose of like 8-12mg has been just about perfect for me every morning. It really gets me going without so much of the uncomfortable physical stimulation feelings I get when I use something like cyclazodone in this same fashion. And is very much more focusing/motivating than cyclazodone is for me. Been too long since I've used any traditional stimulants (amphetamine, methylphenidate, etc) so I can't make any proper comparisons there unfortunately.

There is some compulsion to redose all throughout the day for me. But I am especially prone to this for almost all stimulants. It is manageable though - absolutely nothing like the near irresistible compulsion that drugs like MDPV, apvp, aphp, etc can cause me. Just a constant nagging thought but nothing I can't ignore if I choose to.

Too much or too much redoses can cause a cold/robotic like feeling emotionally. Seems best with one solid morning dose and a smaller booster dose mid day (if needed) - then no more for the day

I used it daily for a week and only had problems sleeping the first night - which I alleviated with a small dose of Bromazolam. The rest of the week I was able to get to sleep without any issues and no chemical assistance, in fact strangely I fell asleep quicker and slept better then I usually do.

I had absolutely no urges to watch porn or fap - never even tried throughout the week. In fact, I got an astonishing amount of work done - mostly computer stuff for work but also protects/repairs around the house.

4f-mph will you marry me?

 

[Vagabond696]

Finally got a sample of this today. 1st try at 20mg. The initial rush is very intense but levels out and becomes a comfortable euphoria. No thoughts of redosing, but I've put it in my time lock safe just in case.

Will be researching this further over the next week as I currently have some time off work.