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4-Fluoroamphetamine
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travis2600
Bluelighter
Entry 26 in PIHKAL:
http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/misc/pihkal/pihkal026.html
http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/misc/pihkal/pihkal026.html
Black Panther
Bluelighter
It's something totally different Travis...
There's short info on Rhodium on it.
There's short info on Rhodium on it.
travis2600
Bluelighter
Yep, sorry about that, I made a mistake.
I wonder where these people are that get the casual opportunity to taste such a chemical. I want a job like that. Inventing drugs and giving them to rats.
It's this kinda stuff, making new things and seeing what happens, that motivates me to sit through another boring lecture on orbital hybrids.
[ 10 December 2002: Message edited by: travis2600 ]
I wonder where these people are that get the casual opportunity to taste such a chemical. I want a job like that. Inventing drugs and giving them to rats.
It's this kinda stuff, making new things and seeing what happens, that motivates me to sit through another boring lecture on orbital hybrids.
[ 10 December 2002: Message edited by: travis2600 ]
fairnymph
Ex-Bluelighter
Hey BP...
I'll repost some info on this compound that I've posted elsewhere:
4-fluoroamphetamine should NOT have any MDMA like effects, as some people speculate.
I just looked over a study (Marona-Lewicka D, Rhee GS, Sprague JE, Nichols DE. Psychostimulant-like effects of p-fluoroamphetamine in the rat. Eur J Pharmacol. 1995 Dec 12;287(2):105-13.) -- Sprague and Nichols do the COOLEST research, and it seems that 4-FA is most similar to straight up amphetamine, and does not share many similarities (at least in rats) with MDMA and other drugs (MMAI, etc) that act on serotonin. Other research I looked at confirmed this idea -- 4-FA appears to have virtually no effects on serotonin (less even than amphetamine).
4-FA had more more potent but less selective dopaminergic effects than d-amphetamine.
Fluorination of amphetamine also causes the drug to be eliminated from the brain more quickly. So, the effects won't last as long as amphetamine's (this could be a good thing).
I'll repost some info on this compound that I've posted elsewhere:
4-fluoroamphetamine should NOT have any MDMA like effects, as some people speculate.
I just looked over a study (Marona-Lewicka D, Rhee GS, Sprague JE, Nichols DE. Psychostimulant-like effects of p-fluoroamphetamine in the rat. Eur J Pharmacol. 1995 Dec 12;287(2):105-13.) -- Sprague and Nichols do the COOLEST research, and it seems that 4-FA is most similar to straight up amphetamine, and does not share many similarities (at least in rats) with MDMA and other drugs (MMAI, etc) that act on serotonin. Other research I looked at confirmed this idea -- 4-FA appears to have virtually no effects on serotonin (less even than amphetamine).
4-FA had more more potent but less selective dopaminergic effects than d-amphetamine.
Fluorination of amphetamine also causes the drug to be eliminated from the brain more quickly. So, the effects won't last as long as amphetamine's (this could be a good thing).
Black Panther
Bluelighter
It was suggested by someone, that it would be illegal anyway by the analog act in most countries.
Yes the company offering it contacted me and let me know that it would be illegal in my country(USA) so i could'nt order it because its of course an analog of amphetamine so looks like i'll have to look around and do a little diverting if i'm going to get a hold of any.
go to hive.ws and do a search about it
if you cannot find it sorry it is there as it WAS quite some time ago it was discussed
It is many times more powerful than straight d-meth but there are problems with it
I don't remember --it was years ago--and I would not remember at all if it were not for the fact that it was so much more powerful and not that hard to synth.--go megoing for a moment reading about it
As with all drugs there are companies that will sell you anything....
I heard of one place in China that will sell you a few grams of fentanyl for American cash but it still is a shaky/risky prop. to me
If you let me send it to your house I will split wo gms with you
if you cannot find it sorry it is there as it WAS quite some time ago it was discussed
It is many times more powerful than straight d-meth but there are problems with it
I don't remember --it was years ago--and I would not remember at all if it were not for the fact that it was so much more powerful and not that hard to synth.--go megoing for a moment reading about it
As with all drugs there are companies that will sell you anything....
I heard of one place in China that will sell you a few grams of fentanyl for American cash but it still is a shaky/risky prop. to me
If you let me send it to your house I will split wo gms with you
Leprechaun
Bluelighter
In what ways is it more powerful than meth? From reputed sources it has a very different subtle effect between the active doses of 150-180mg. The effects are apparently felt to be much less excitory based stimulation and are felt to be a warm sensation that spreads throughout the body. Above the 180mg range the excitory effects apparanently overwhelm the warmth and subtle stimulation of the lower range of effects. I do not see this in any way as more powerful to MethAmphetamine, or amphetamine, based on subjective effect and dosage.
Anyone have more information on 4-FA?
Anyone have more information on 4-FA?