RatInADrainDitch
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- Jul 5, 2010
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Dose:
Day 1 - 400mg spread over time (oral, nasal)
Day 2 - 210 mg oral
General duration of drug:
3 hours of euphoria
7 hours of speediness/clarity
Redosing: Redosing works and increases effects and duration, but not by a ton. The first redose is the only one that makes a big difference. It is nothing like regular amphetamine in terms of redose strength (far weaker).
For a really intense high: Eat around 150-200 mg. Then, immediately after effects are starting, snort a bunch of small lines/bumps. Insuff. does not hurt as much as others say - and nowhere near as much as 2C-E.
This is a 2-day trip report, and needs to be, because what happened on the second day is I think quite interesting - and VERY unexpected.
I received my package on a Saturday morning. My plan was to basically do as much 4-FA as I wanted, whenever I wanted, through the weekend - and then take it real easy after that and use it infrequently and with lower doses.
I did an allergy test (and more importantly to make sure I didn't get the wrong substance). Later I ate 160mg at 2:00pm with a pretty full stomach. It took about 90 minutes to kick in and was very gradual and light. Just a modest amount of stimulation and some very minor kicks of empathy and gratefulness / happiness towards my future and the future of others.
After a few hours I dosed another 80mg oral and did a line of about 50mg nasally. This upped the stimulation but I was not hopping around the room. Had a few nice phone conversations, didn't sound high (I'm pretty certain). For the next 5 hours I did more little lines and took a walk with my dog. My gait was smooth, sexy and confident! (I love walking around by myself on stims) but I didn't feel overwhelmingly euphoric. I read somewhere that 4-FA provides a "matter of fact" kind of stimulation, not a crazy headrush, which I found to be true. All in I probably did 400mg on day 1.
Day 2
I went about my morning after getting a good 6 hours of sleep the previous night. I went to my grandpas house and mowed his lawn and ate lunch with him. He is 92, kind of a hardhead WWII vet. He was not very nice to my mom and her siblings. But I like him in spite of this and am willing to spend time with him and people should have some company before they buy the farm.
After getting home, I decided to dose another 210 mg. I wondered about my tolerance from the previous day, and thought it would be a medium level high. It was a far less overall dose than the previous day. I was merely intending to get a nice, mellow energy going. After 45 minutes, I was doing the dishes, and I suddenly started feeling chills and a sense of something big coming. Another few minutes go by and I am feeling something just like an MDMA rocket-launch comeup. Instant and total empathy. A wonderful shakiness in my body. I was just kind of pacing around, sitting down on a chair, getting up again and pacing more - all the while transfixed on the power of my vision, the fact that I am young and could go ANYWHERE THE FUCK I WANT IN THE DIRECTION OF MY LIFE, the courage of others and the innate connections between living, and tortured by living, beings.
I turned on a electronic song, Dido(remix) by Armin Van Buuren. I am not in to electronic music - more of a Deadhead and classic rock person. Anyway - I didnt even care about the strong rapid beats of the music. There was a woman's operatic voice in the background, like a real opera singer I guess, and I could feel the eternal scream of life behind each of her cries. The crying scream of souls in solitude, of souls bound to time and death, bound to each other. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.
That was about 15 mins ago. I felt like writing. Hopefully the euphoria keeps going. I am still feeling very grounded and good - not overwhelmed like MDMA. But definitely MDMA qualities.
Very strange how the 1st day produced NONE of this intensity. And, overall, I had a bigger dose. Maybe there is something that has to do with receptors up-regulating themselves or something, because this is was stronger than yesterday.
A great drug. Comedown is an enjoyable part of the experience! Win-win.
EDIT - As others have reported, the MDMA-type euphoria does not last very long. It is kind of like Methylone in this way. The afterglow from the first few hours is nice though. This + methylone would be incredible.
Also, I have a feeling that a full stomach seriously reduces bioavailability. Go for an empty stomach.
Day 1 - 400mg spread over time (oral, nasal)
Day 2 - 210 mg oral
General duration of drug:
3 hours of euphoria
7 hours of speediness/clarity
Redosing: Redosing works and increases effects and duration, but not by a ton. The first redose is the only one that makes a big difference. It is nothing like regular amphetamine in terms of redose strength (far weaker).
For a really intense high: Eat around 150-200 mg. Then, immediately after effects are starting, snort a bunch of small lines/bumps. Insuff. does not hurt as much as others say - and nowhere near as much as 2C-E.
This is a 2-day trip report, and needs to be, because what happened on the second day is I think quite interesting - and VERY unexpected.
I received my package on a Saturday morning. My plan was to basically do as much 4-FA as I wanted, whenever I wanted, through the weekend - and then take it real easy after that and use it infrequently and with lower doses.
I did an allergy test (and more importantly to make sure I didn't get the wrong substance). Later I ate 160mg at 2:00pm with a pretty full stomach. It took about 90 minutes to kick in and was very gradual and light. Just a modest amount of stimulation and some very minor kicks of empathy and gratefulness / happiness towards my future and the future of others.
After a few hours I dosed another 80mg oral and did a line of about 50mg nasally. This upped the stimulation but I was not hopping around the room. Had a few nice phone conversations, didn't sound high (I'm pretty certain). For the next 5 hours I did more little lines and took a walk with my dog. My gait was smooth, sexy and confident! (I love walking around by myself on stims) but I didn't feel overwhelmingly euphoric. I read somewhere that 4-FA provides a "matter of fact" kind of stimulation, not a crazy headrush, which I found to be true. All in I probably did 400mg on day 1.
Day 2
I went about my morning after getting a good 6 hours of sleep the previous night. I went to my grandpas house and mowed his lawn and ate lunch with him. He is 92, kind of a hardhead WWII vet. He was not very nice to my mom and her siblings. But I like him in spite of this and am willing to spend time with him and people should have some company before they buy the farm.
After getting home, I decided to dose another 210 mg. I wondered about my tolerance from the previous day, and thought it would be a medium level high. It was a far less overall dose than the previous day. I was merely intending to get a nice, mellow energy going. After 45 minutes, I was doing the dishes, and I suddenly started feeling chills and a sense of something big coming. Another few minutes go by and I am feeling something just like an MDMA rocket-launch comeup. Instant and total empathy. A wonderful shakiness in my body. I was just kind of pacing around, sitting down on a chair, getting up again and pacing more - all the while transfixed on the power of my vision, the fact that I am young and could go ANYWHERE THE FUCK I WANT IN THE DIRECTION OF MY LIFE, the courage of others and the innate connections between living, and tortured by living, beings.
I turned on a electronic song, Dido(remix) by Armin Van Buuren. I am not in to electronic music - more of a Deadhead and classic rock person. Anyway - I didnt even care about the strong rapid beats of the music. There was a woman's operatic voice in the background, like a real opera singer I guess, and I could feel the eternal scream of life behind each of her cries. The crying scream of souls in solitude, of souls bound to time and death, bound to each other. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.
That was about 15 mins ago. I felt like writing. Hopefully the euphoria keeps going. I am still feeling very grounded and good - not overwhelmed like MDMA. But definitely MDMA qualities.
Very strange how the 1st day produced NONE of this intensity. And, overall, I had a bigger dose. Maybe there is something that has to do with receptors up-regulating themselves or something, because this is was stronger than yesterday.
A great drug. Comedown is an enjoyable part of the experience! Win-win.
EDIT - As others have reported, the MDMA-type euphoria does not last very long. It is kind of like Methylone in this way. The afterglow from the first few hours is nice though. This + methylone would be incredible.
Also, I have a feeling that a full stomach seriously reduces bioavailability. Go for an empty stomach.
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