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4-FA (or other amphetamine analog) daily for ADD

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bluesnowmen

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Does anybody have experience with using 4-FA or another analog daily for treating ADD? I'd like to give it a try if nobody has and if it seems safe.

Edit: I assume 4-FA wouldn't be safe given how it seems to be neurotoxic so does anybody know of a non-neurotoxic amphetamine analog that might work?
 
It isn't that it can do something different, its that a analog may be cheaper (just looking for cheaper treatment options, I'm open to other suggestions as well but amphetamines have highest successful treatment rates of any other medication).
 
from my experience it actually seemed to have decent potential for treating mild ADD, but im not a doctor and i only have limited experience with this chem. even if it wasnt neurotoxic, just having that constant empathogenic effect probably screws up the brain after a while if used constantly and daily. its definitely a good study drug, and didnt fuck my sleep up too bad, but i dont recommend treating it like a daily Rx.

if you truly have ADD go get a vyvanse, adderall or something else prescription.
 
yeh I think on the 2nd or 3rd position may be more suitable.

Less euphoria more focus ;)
 
4-FA would seem much too "serotonergic" for ADD in my experience. If you can avoid being a total moron, 2-dpmp would be a great bet. It is a nice workhorse stimulant, lasts all day, and it isn't laden with euphoria or too re-enforcing. And unlike MDPV, one can actually productively focus. But it seems that 9/10 fucktards can't use it responsibly.
 
Wizzle said:
I would say 2-dpmp is the best option.. It's not an amphetamine analog but still...
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Oh please no.

I tried that, thinking it would be ideal. I find it kicks in after about 6 hours, then makes it impossible to sleep for a night, and hard the next night. You're pretty on the button until sleep deprivation gets to you about 24 hours in though.
 
If your thinking that slight empathetic effect may help, I'd doubt after the second day it would be present.

Probably just aswell with Ritalin or straight up amp I would of thought..
 
agree with transform. 2-dpmp is horrible. does help but you wont sleep for two nights. On the second night i didn sleep till 4 and that was after smoking a shit tonne of weed and a lot of alcohol.

4-fa might be a lil distracting given that it is euphoric, it may help you to concentrate a lil bit but you would constantly want to change what your doing.
 
What Kind of dosages did you guys use? Is insomnia still present when used at therapeutic dosages for people that actually have adhd? I can sleep on low dose stimulants just fine, if not better.

Keep in mind I haven't tried 2-dpmp myself though.
 
Lets keep in mind here guys that daily use of RC's can carry unknown risks such as with AET, therefor regular cycling may be an idea to keep the risks minimal.

Keep carvedilol around in case of excess vasoconstriction wich could occur with metabolites building up of some compounds.
 
^ true that. theres plenty of chems you can get prescribed that are much safer and effective. no reason to abuse an enactogenic RC daily under the excuse its for ADD. (not saying you dont have ADD, but you get my point)
 
I know of one case in which an adolescent male ingested 10mg - 30mg of this chemical, 2-3 times per day, five days per week, for two weeks. He claimed to continue to feel mild empathogenic effects at larger cumulative dosages (i.e. 60+mg taken in a relatively short period of time), even during the second week. He discontinued usage after he began to experience negative physical symptoms and depression towards the end of the second week.

Although 4-fa seems to exhibit a surprisingly similar pharmacological profile to rascemic amphetamine in animal studies (similar ratios of monoamine release and reuptake inhibition), the fact that it is empathogenic in humans would seem to imply that it may not be appropriate for use as a general stimulant. FYI, references to this chemical as a potent release of serotonin are not supported by scientific data. It's 5-HT releasing ability was only moderately more significant than that of rascemic amphetamine in animal studies.

-NeuroPsyence
 
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