1cheeselova
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Well, since I love having a good talk about interesting subjects while speeded up %) (not on 4-FA actually). I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on the possibility of 4-FA being used as medicine currently in its unscheduled status or possibly in the legitimate medical field as a schedule II substance. My experience with 4-FA or its relatives is limited. I had ordered a gram for just fun for myself and dosed 1 by myself, then used a chunk at a party, then dosed once more by myself. I'll try to keep it brief but heres some detail to show how I think the possible medicinal benefits are greater for this amp then any I've tried in my experience.
1st experience:
Had a gram, totally unworried about taking too much since the dosage range is generous. Eyeballed 50mg, ate it. It was not only the oddest RC I had tasted but it was the oddest taste I have experience in my life. First a yummy sweet, thinking that maybe they actually gave me sugar? Then it turned into a sickening sweet, then did a U-turn into a very very bitter. After probably 15-25 minutes I started feeling the normal effects from d-amp expect it had a slight twist of empathy reminding him of the first time he tried d-amp except a less head euphoria and a more empathetic love feel. It was enjoyable, not as motivated to do specific tasks but its still present. I really just feel more like talking about whatever. Cheered my mom up on the phone and redose 50mg, so we talked for a WHILE. It was atleast 2 and 1/2 hours so it was approx. 3 hours since the first dose. I felt the euphoria fade and empathy weaken, but the stimulation stayed. I dose 30mg more along with eating approx. 30mg 4-MEC, this was fun but completely different. I had heavy intro and extro feelings. Talking to girls gave me the feeling that I wanted to be all lovey duvey but also a cocaine like I-want-to-fuck-till-the-world-ends feeling. Not medicinal.
Well that wasn't brief so I'll try harder for these two, ha.
2nd exp. at the party:
I had met a new RC knowledgable friend at a party. We did some lines of 4-MEC (much better than oral), he tried a line of 4-FA even after I warned him. That was the only line he did. He then whipped out his rig, and declined the offer. He didn't try any oral route so his opinion of 4-FA may be biased but, he said that through both routes 4-FA wasn't really adding anything to him, all he felt was 4-MEC. He felt slight empethic effects but, otherwise all of the cocaine like effects I had felt earlier. So i think 4-FA might be overall best orally since it's IN and IV uses are not very profoundly increased, possibly.
3rd experience:
This is when thoughts of medical use come about. Good oral bio, not very euphoric overall, and has concentrating, empathetic, and helps connects to other humans. I used the last, what must've been approx. 75mg. I felt a slight buzzing feel-good sensation like before but didn't "climb" to the point it did before. Nearly identical empathetic values and concentration values seem to actually be closer to d-amp. I think tolerance was the source of euphoria loss, and possibly the good feelings where "blocking" concentration traits? Overall not a recreational experience in complete honesty. I did homework, smoked weed (which the 4-FA didn't take away from at all), and fell asleep.
So to highlight the reasons I think this is a key candidate:
Not orgasmic when snorted(very painful actually) or IV'd
Has properties to help ADD
Has properties to help fear of social interaction. (I feel like due to the almost complete lack of come-up anxiety, and jitters would candidate replacing benzos. No withdrawals anyone?)
Can assist in emotional connect to human beings, say after a traumatic experience or social exclusion
Tolerance can possibly bring out ADD assisting factors, would definitively need to be tested
I think im going to see if some friends would be willing to test low dosages over a period of time to see if they the above effects apply to them, and to make sure their are no toxic effects. If not I may start legitimately self medicating my A.D.D, and my inability to properly empathize in certain situations.
Sorry if I rambled too much, or typed words incorectly, i'll be going over it soon. Let me know what you think.
1st experience:
Had a gram, totally unworried about taking too much since the dosage range is generous. Eyeballed 50mg, ate it. It was not only the oddest RC I had tasted but it was the oddest taste I have experience in my life. First a yummy sweet, thinking that maybe they actually gave me sugar? Then it turned into a sickening sweet, then did a U-turn into a very very bitter. After probably 15-25 minutes I started feeling the normal effects from d-amp expect it had a slight twist of empathy reminding him of the first time he tried d-amp except a less head euphoria and a more empathetic love feel. It was enjoyable, not as motivated to do specific tasks but its still present. I really just feel more like talking about whatever. Cheered my mom up on the phone and redose 50mg, so we talked for a WHILE. It was atleast 2 and 1/2 hours so it was approx. 3 hours since the first dose. I felt the euphoria fade and empathy weaken, but the stimulation stayed. I dose 30mg more along with eating approx. 30mg 4-MEC, this was fun but completely different. I had heavy intro and extro feelings. Talking to girls gave me the feeling that I wanted to be all lovey duvey but also a cocaine like I-want-to-fuck-till-the-world-ends feeling. Not medicinal.
Well that wasn't brief so I'll try harder for these two, ha.
2nd exp. at the party:
I had met a new RC knowledgable friend at a party. We did some lines of 4-MEC (much better than oral), he tried a line of 4-FA even after I warned him. That was the only line he did. He then whipped out his rig, and declined the offer. He didn't try any oral route so his opinion of 4-FA may be biased but, he said that through both routes 4-FA wasn't really adding anything to him, all he felt was 4-MEC. He felt slight empethic effects but, otherwise all of the cocaine like effects I had felt earlier. So i think 4-FA might be overall best orally since it's IN and IV uses are not very profoundly increased, possibly.
3rd experience:
This is when thoughts of medical use come about. Good oral bio, not very euphoric overall, and has concentrating, empathetic, and helps connects to other humans. I used the last, what must've been approx. 75mg. I felt a slight buzzing feel-good sensation like before but didn't "climb" to the point it did before. Nearly identical empathetic values and concentration values seem to actually be closer to d-amp. I think tolerance was the source of euphoria loss, and possibly the good feelings where "blocking" concentration traits? Overall not a recreational experience in complete honesty. I did homework, smoked weed (which the 4-FA didn't take away from at all), and fell asleep.
So to highlight the reasons I think this is a key candidate:
Not orgasmic when snorted(very painful actually) or IV'd
Has properties to help ADD
Has properties to help fear of social interaction. (I feel like due to the almost complete lack of come-up anxiety, and jitters would candidate replacing benzos. No withdrawals anyone?)
Can assist in emotional connect to human beings, say after a traumatic experience or social exclusion
Tolerance can possibly bring out ADD assisting factors, would definitively need to be tested
I think im going to see if some friends would be willing to test low dosages over a period of time to see if they the above effects apply to them, and to make sure their are no toxic effects. If not I may start legitimately self medicating my A.D.D, and my inability to properly empathize in certain situations.
Sorry if I rambled too much, or typed words incorectly, i'll be going over it soon. Let me know what you think.
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