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4-aco-dmt + LSD. safety and synergy?

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sameoldsongam

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I have been unable to find any reports of anyone taking both 4-aco-dmt and lsd together. I was thinking about trying this combination, but, i wasn't sure if this combination would become physiologically dangerous for any reason or simply too mentally overwhelming and whether or not they have a synergy together.

If anyone knows anyone with personal experience with these two together, I'd love any reports. How much of each and when to take each, etc?

thanks.
 
I think its possible. LSD and MDMA definitely have a synergy. Synergy is different from just the sum of the individual parts.

I've never personally tried this combination. I will try someday AMT and LSD though. I believe that could be beautiful.
 
Mixing LSD with things is always iffy since its so powerful on its own. The only substances that I know it will usually go well with are MDMA, small doses of opiates and for some people weed. I could imagine what you're suggesting to be completely overwhelming. Be safe!

edit: Forgot about nitrous. Even though I haven't tried it personally, everything I've read suggests its safe in modest amounts while tripping.
 
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nitrous + LSD = cosmic bliss.

i think that this proposed combo would be safe... i know plenty of people have taken mushrooms & LSD together with wonderful results, so that would be my guess. but like others have said, exercise caution - you might be blown away. :O
 
This combination should be pretty save, but IMO the drugs have synergistic effects so choose your dosage carefully
 
How do they synergize 5HT2 can you tell us the mechanism?

I think like I said the term synergy gets thrown around too casually. IMO L + ecstasy synergizes, since the reuptake effects of MDMA combined with LSD I think that is the mechanism at least.

How is this just not the sum of the parts with 4-aco-DMT and LSD (both HT2a agonists and well of course LSD does more).
 
I'm bumping this thread and see if anyone has any feedback on this specific combination yet? I was thinking of taking a moderate dosage of L and then adding the 4-aco at about the 4 or 5 hour mark, maybe 20 mg...

I think it might be a beautiful combination but would love to hear from anyone out there who's done it.
 
I've used 4-ho-DMT (nasally) about 6 hours into a moderate strength LSD trip. It mostly just felt like 4-ho until that wore off. LSD doesn't mix that well with other 5-HT psychedelics in my experience; the more similar the drugs are to one another, the more likely they are to get jumbled up in one generic mass all trying to go to the same general places. I get better results combining it with different classes of drugs like empathogens, dissociatives, or CB1 agonists.
 
I once ate 20mg 4-AcO-DMT and a few hits of dank L and I blacked out for a short while. Overall I had an uplifting experience but there were moments when I was a bit overwhelmed.
 
Thanks for the responses. If I attempt this one I will definitely write a report.

I've taken 4-aco-dmt with 2cb and that was pretty intense and reached almost blacking out/memory gap territory.

I will be cautious.
 
PLEASE let us know if you try this...and if i try it first i will let you know....this seems like it could be a great combo.



i know its not the same but i had an ok experience once with 30mgs of 4-aco-det thrown in with just low dose (one or two tiny hits) acid but i must admit those two didnt work that great together until i threw some 2c-b in with the two...then things really worked. (triple combos can really be great sometimes) my favorite combo in the world next to candyflipping is acid plus 2-cb. (taking the 2c-b right as the peak of the L subsides). if 4-aco-dmt is anything like mushrooms i might take the 4-aco-dmt first but this is just my theory and it might get blown out of the water when i try it (someday i hope) ...the reason i say this is because most tryptamines make me tired at the end and something like acid might very well wake me up again. (and i know that 2c-b does this at the tail end of a mushroom trip)...of course some people like to get tired after 8 hours..in that case i guess i'd take the acid first (i personally like to trip for around 12-24 hours each time i trip which is why i am a fan of combos....if you find the right order, you can have a two or even three stage trip that can last so fucking long)

i have mixed acid (usually taking the acid first as taking it second i never notice it with phens) with 4-aco-met which was nice but overall underwhelming, with 2c-e (barely noticed that acid as i took the 2c-e first), with 2c-i(not as good as 2c-b with acid), and with mushrooms. i still think hands down its a tie between mdma and 2c-b for adding something extra to the trip. adding 2c-b is just bound to make your L so fucking pretty and physical that its hard not to love it, especially if you like sex on acid. (which, let's be honest, who doesnt?)no, 2c-b doesnt seem to add much in the way of insight, but it doesnt seem to dumb down the acid either which i like. it also gives you a lot of energy which can be great for public events.

K is great with acid but not as great as K with DMT in my book. (a personal favorite combo...i never know what is going on with that combo and its a very curious state of mind to be in)


thanks!
 
I´ve tried this combination earlier today.

One hit of pretty potent L and 17mg 4-aco-dmt at T +2h .
Began to feel the 4-aco coming strong 20 minutes after it´s ingestion... visuals would become way more intrincated since then... 3d morphing of 2d surfaces was amazing, colors and lights were glowing beautifully. Eyes closed was like walking through myself´s inner realms without edgy-scary flavours (like I usually get with L alone). The music was absolutely perfect and meaningfull, hints of soft synesthesia.

In short words.. I got a strong +++ with some traces of ego-loss at times. Total duration was about 7hs since the acid dose. I believe the 4-aco-dmt boosts up a lot the acid visuals and IME softens the edge of the mental side of it.

Definitely going to try this combo again... REALLY cool stuff.
=D
 
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