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4-aco-dmt, 25I, Mescaline experiments summary

Synaptic Gap

Synaptic Gap

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Here is a summary of my research with these three 3 substances.



-25I on its own is very "nice and pretty" with a little bit of a stimulant effect but doesnt really take me anywhere mentally. This makes it a good social drug imo. especially moderate doses. Movies on 25i are amazing.

-4-aco-dmt on its own is just like a good dose of shrooms but more intense because of the faster come up time and feels a bit cleaner probably due to not having to consume mushrooms. Smoking 4-aco-dmt is pretty close to smoking dmt (i have not tried this while not already tripping though). Smoking a few mg of 4 aco while on the peak of a 20mg oral dose sent me into hyperspace for more than an hour.

-Cactus extract (mescaline) is imo the best all around drug on its own. It gives you a lot of different effects of many different classes of drugs nicely packed up into one substance.

-25I + Cacuts: These combined very well visually for one of the most visually intense trips I have had. The headspace was the same as taking the cactus on its own. Also it seems like it made the trip last a bit longer than either of these taken individually. I would call this combo Mescaline++

-4 aco dmt + 25I: The synergy here is perfect. The 25I seems to keep you grounded to yourself while your mind blasts off with the 4 aco dmt while they potentiate each other visually. Also the 25i helps balance out the sedating effect of the 4-aco-dmt and and creates an almost perfect body high. I felt as if the revalations I recieved from the 4-aco-dmt were being fed through the 25I and written into my cells dna...crazy stuff. This is by far and away the best chemical experience I have ever had. Smoking 4-aco-dmt on the comedown sent me into hyperspace for a good 1.5 hours.

-Cactus + 4-aco-dmt: These did not synergize well. It felt as if they were seperate and competing forces that would switch back and forth. If was very confusing. They also produced an uncomfortable body load and an extended period of nausia that neither substance produced on its own. I had a good time but either substance on its own would have been better. Don't waste your chems with this combo.
 
i've not read too much about people smoking 4acodmt...

do you have freebase? or a salt - fumarate or HCl?
 
porkstock said:
i've not read too much about people smoking 4acodmt...

do you have freebase? or a salt - fumarate or HCl?
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Nor had I...it was a true experiment. I had the freebase. I have not tried smoking it while baseline sober but I can assure you it is very simalir to smoked dmt when already tripping. These results have been confirmed by others I know as well. I wish I could still get freebase so I could explore this ROA more. Fumarate is all I can find anymore.
 
Subdepth said:
That's a pretty big dose man, must have had you quite out there. How are you smoking it? And also how does it compare to the other ROA's?
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I smoked it by lacing a bowl of weed and then power hitting it holding the smoke as long as I could and then did it agian as soon as I exhaled. Three power hits cleared the bowl. It is far more intense and psychedelic than ingesting it. Very close to smoked DMT. Though keep in mind I have not tried smoking it yet while at a sober baseline so it is possible the intense effects only occured because I was already tripping. At the time I had freebase and it smoked very well. When I tried this with the fumerate it was much harder to smoke and was not nearly as intense.

Out there doesnt even begin to describe it. After I smoked the 4-aco while already on a strong +++ from everything else I ended up in another universe...it was like the center universe where all other universes are connected. There was a huge party on some random planet and I was partying and talking with people like Aristotle and George Washington. There were other fictional characters from some of my favorite movies and cartoons there as well. It was like a cosmic rave party with historical figures, movie action heroes and my favorite animated characters. After the party I felt the need to fix all the universes by balancing them out. The whole trip seemed to have the theme of "balance" and "perfection". I figured if I was perfectly balanced then I could make the rest of the universes this way too. At this point I started to think that I actually could be god and the drugs awakend me to my destiny.

This whole series of cosmic events took almost 2 hours in real time but in my altered time distorted mind it seemed more like several days. After I started to come down a bit I felt like all the stuff that had been revealed to me was now being written into my DNA. The best way to describe this is that I felt like I could feel the life energy of every cell in my body and that they were all evolving. This body high was the most intense euphoria I have ever felt.

After all this I got tired about 5 am and crashed out very blissfully. The next day I was completely normal again with no after effects other than afterglow bliss the rest of the day. It blew my mind that I had tripped so hard a few hours ago but now I am good to go to work. But hey better than calling in sick still strung out on LSD or MDMA like has happend to me a few times in the past.

This trip was the most profound of my life and I have been tripping for 15 years on many different psyches. I had a friend try the same dosage schedule I did and he also had a cosmic life altering experience so its not just my specific reaction. This 25I + 4-ACO-DMT combo is truly something special and completely different than either one on its own.
 
I may try psilacetin with 25D. I wonder if it has any potential. Have you tried 25D?

Before I inject it, if that happens (never had this ROA), I'll try smoking it (freebase psilacetin).

Rather, vaporizing.
 
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