4-aco-dipt first psychedellic experience. Dosage?

[snubi]

Hi there im going to introduce my girlfriend to the psychedellic world. Whatdosage would you recommend?

I want her to reach a level 3 trip... also would snorting methylone, be a good way to turn the trip into a more positive direction. Incase of a bad trip?.

Also can you take a booster dose, after 45-60 minutes. Or is it like psilocybin?

 

[cryptix420]

I would advise something between 20-30mg. 40mg is going to cause some very intense muscle tremors and other body load. The trick with this drug is to channel the energy, ideally doing something erotic like making out or making love. Some of the best sex I can ever recall having was while under the influence of 4-AcO-DiPT. This drug is not very 'deep', but then again it sort of is at the same time. It is an interesting paradox; it is nicknamed the 'philosophers psychedelics'. I do remember going on endless light hearted mental thought trains, ending up thinking about the most bizarre and funny things. It also made me feel like an animal somewhat; I remember walking through the kitchen seeing bananas on the counter, and imagining how color was originally around so we could detect food hidden away in trees out in the wild.

I would not recommend combining it with a stimulant, and redosing is also ill advised imo. The duration of the trip will vary greatly depending on how much you take, with the initial peak being reached in about an hour and the come down lasting from 2-8 hours. I find it goes very well with some cannabis and a funny movie.

 

[snubi]

i remember 4-aco-dipt as being very happy and visual. but less messy than psilocybin. I think i took MDMA along the 4-aco-dipt, if i recall correctly. Methylonebeing very simmilar. Perhaps

if she is not getting OEVS when she is peaking, would a low dose, 2c-c be a good booster, methylone?.

Or perhaps save the 2c-c on the tail end of the trip?

 

[Solipsis]

Methylone is much more dopaminergic than MDMA in a sneaky way and can be more stimmy and have unexpected stim-downsides, especially unpredictable with combinations like this. You are much better off not dosing too high and using 'cognitive behavioral therapy' like techniques to get away from pointless negative thought spirals if those occur. Often seeing the flaw in it can be enough for me to break out of those.
Let alone the golden rule not to combine a drug the very first time you take it!

I have used 4-AcO-DiPT but cannot advise on doses. Best is for you to thoroughly check erowid and our own big thread and reading up on it. I can understand impulses (little preparation time available I mean) but try to use as much as you can to do a little homework and remind each other that this should pay off because you can avoid the most basic of mistakes.
For example quickly browsing through erowid reports and globally reading them and checking doses can tell you something about certain results occuring from a certain dose upwards or that tend to happen more with a certain route of administration.

Have fun

 

[Achten]

Hi there im going to introduce my girlfriend to the psychedellic world. Whatdosage would you recommend?

I want her to reach a level 3 trip... also would snorting methylone, be a good way to turn the trip into a more positive direction. Incase of a bad trip?.

Also can you take a booster dose, after 45-60 minutes. Or is it like psilocybin?

Short answer:

Hi there im going to introduce my girlfriend to the psychedellic world. Whatdosage would you recommend? 5-10mg

I want her to reach a level 3 trip really? as a first try ?... also would snorting methylone, be a good way to turn the trip into a more positive direction. Incase of a bad trip?.NO

Also can you take a booster dose, after 45-60 minutes. Or is it like psilocybin?It is "like psilocybin" which means, yes, anything added before the +1h mark will increase effects, anything between T+1h30 and T+2h will lengthen the effect felt at the moment of ingestion

Long answer:

Scumbag me: Have you done your homework ?

Cool guy me:

I consider myself a pretty experienced psychonaut. My approach towards tripping is playful, spiritual, sexual, philosophical.
I have had lots of +++'s and was even blessed with a few ++++'s, one of which occured on a mix of 20mg 2C-D and 20mg 4AcO-DiPT.

That being said, I'll also give you my idea of introducing others (especially special people like your SO) to the psychedelic world.
I recently introduced my completely psychedelic naive GF with 8mg of 2C-D, which was a very nice experience, but as she herself described it "mild". Next try is 100mg MDAI.
Just saying, no need to rush, right ? I can't get in her head obviously, but I believe that if I'd given her a +++, especially with a powerful tryptamine like 4AcODiPT, she would've been put off by the experience. Now she wants to learn more about it.

I absolutely *love* tryptamines, especially the 4HO/4AcO's. But I believe 4AcODiPT is better sampled/can be enjoyed more fully when one has a few (intense) trips under his/her belt. It is like mushrooms, yes. It is also "not so mindfucky", yes. But it is *very* powerful, and I would advise not to aim for a +++ with the first try. It can lead to some serious insights about life situations, and le wild guess here is that you want to have some (serious) fun ?

Also, are you experienced with 4AcODiPT yourself ? If so, it is much easier to select a dosage level for her, imo.

I'd suggest just enjoy a nice evening together, with a sparkle of maybe 8mg 4AcODiPT for her. (Depending a bit on weight but considering the fact that after 18mg I had to lie down... - as a reference: 2.5gr of dry mushrooms has me dancing through the appartment here)
There's always a next time to try a higher dose.
If you have a wider selection, 4HO/AcO-MET is definetly worth looking into as a first tryptamine.

Also, I would advise against boosting, especially (!!) with another compound. And I'm guessing she's not experienced with methylone as well ? As another poster said: definetly one compound at a time. Again, there's always a next time for a more intense experience, if she wants it. I don't know what your GF's approach to these compounds is, but snorting may not be the most harmless way to introduce someone to a new class of experiences. I have never tried methylone but I believe it is something like MDMA/amphetamines ? Why not give her an oral dose of that as a first "psychedelic" experience ?
I know various girls that enjoy the headspace and the nice colors of MDMA and lowdose mushrooms, but don't need to be drowned in fractals, as some of us like .

I could keep writing, I'm coming down of a 4AcODET/4HODET/4AcODiPT/4HOMET/4HOMiPT mix - licking the residue of the baggies was WAY more powerful than expected. Literally some dust. Very clean trip though, peaked 5hours

I hope you have a nice trip, but if you insist on 4AcODiPT as being her first experience, I suggest you read up on it. And let her as well. There's an erowid report I believe titled "tripping for adults". This is so true. It is *not* a childrens drug to be shared on parties. Methylone/MDMA and even 4HOMET may be suited for that.
4AcODiPT is philosophical, sexual, raw, beautiful, powerful.

edit: if you're "just" aiming for a tactile/fun experience, maybe low dose (!!) 5MeOMiPT or 5MeODiPT are worth looking into ?

 

[azzo]

I would advise something between 20-30mg. 40mg is going to cause some very intense muscle tremors and other body load.

I prefectly agree with you on this, i did 40mg once ,because the 20mg trial was really poor and disappointing, and i got extreme muscle tremors and tension with nausea and i guess bad vasocostriction because i was shivering even under the winter blanket.

I didn't find it deep and not even fun for me with really mild visual activity at 40mg, i won't try it again for sure, my body really hates this chem.