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4-AcO-DET - Experienced User - Smoked Attempt

Bricoleur

Bluelighter
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Sep 27, 2000
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SET: I am coming into he last 2 months of my audio engineering course. As a result I am required to shift more stress and anxiety; other than this I am in good running order.
SETTING: Early evening at my flat. Last food approximately 4.5 hours prior (fruit salad). Last drug – cannabis previous evening. Other than this nothing inside of a week.
10mg of 4-AcO-DET freebase was loaded into a glass DMT pipe. Freebase was a dark grey powder.
+:00 I take 5 large lung-fulls of before I am satisfied that no chemical remains. Smoke is actually easy to smoke and not harsh on throat or lungs (I am surprised).
After the 3rd toke the first effects are felt. Very similar to the first .5 seconds of 5-MeO-DMT.
Sweaty hands
Colours are more vibrant.
+:10 – No mental gymnastics at this point but I can see the veins through my hands. Body is feeling fine – no complaints. Lungs feel expanded.
+:15 – No progression of visual or mental
effects. Upon standing I have a sense of feeling “taller”.
I do not feel restless.
OEV’s are “expanded”, no morphing or dripping. Colours are vibrant.
CEV’s are no more lucid or intricate than when I am sober.
+:30 – Notice clenched jaw + tightness in stomach.
Still no mental gymnastics, although I am starting to peak.
+:45 – Increase in sexual awareness – I now know what I’ll be doing next time with this chemical.
+1:00 – Definitely passed my peak. Decide to go for a walk. Phone rings, talking no problem.
+1:10 – Go for a walk.
+1:25 – Back from the walk. Too cold and navigating London traffic (even as a pedestrian) is too scary.
Effects have diminished considerably.
+1:45 – Just got off the phone talking to a mate about the trip. Post trip synopsis – nearly baseline now.
REFLECTION:
This is a strange experience. I was expecting an increase in associations, to generate new perspectives. I think this is a dosage reliant effect.
Visuals were not the typical bending/morphing variety. No form constants like lattice, filigree, tunnel, spiral, etc.
My visual field seemed expanded or as if I were viewing the world through a fish eye lens. This is a commonly noted effect of 4-AcO-DET.
More later.
Bricoleur.
In the beginners mind there are many possibilities.
In the experts mind there are few.
- Shunryu Suzuki
 
I smoked this compound twice and personally do not think this is the best route of administration. It made me very uncomfortable and had no effects I found useful. The oral route is the way to go with this material in my opinion. I vaporized 10 mg the first time and 15 the second.
[ 21 January 2002: Message edited by: morninggloryseed ]
 
I enjoyed reading your report, it was interesting.
However, it doesn't sound like anything I would want to buy. :)
 
Hi Bric,
Filigree? Show me the drug that produces filigree and I'll show you a designer drug.
Seriously, what is the normal length of a trip with this drug? From your report it seems that you were testing at a lower dose than is properly active. Was that the case or was it the route of admin?
If you have found a substance that produces a 90 min trip I'd be interested. Been trying to mail you but ziplip keeps eating my newly composed mail. Thought I'd try this route.
Geoff
 
Nice report;
The fact that you manage to be able to lay your hands on every chemical under the sun plus several that have never seen the light of day is an inspiration to me and many others.
 
Originally posted by StoneHappyMonday:
Filigree? Show me the drug that produces filigree and I'll show you a designer drug.
Seriously, what is the normal length of a trip with this drug? From your report it seems that you were testing at a lower dose than is properly active. Was that the case or was it the route of admin?

There is now a 4-AcO-DET vault at erowid with an excellent primer by Toad. Yes this is a low dose and trip usually 4 hours.
I'll contact you soon SHM.
bongbudda - it's just luck really.
Bricoleur.
 
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