3'flourophemetrazine V Phenzacaine

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Very good, Warrior! That's just the sort of smartarsed comment I would come out with

 

[steewith2ees]

Did u find a cleaner source for the 3 phenmet fubar?

 

[Allein]

Finally my suspicions have been confirmed - I was convinced the wildly different effects from consecutive orders wasn't just due to my tolerance! Unfortunately, I fear many vendors might be doing the same thing, which is why i keep changing. My first vendor went to shit soon after they started selling more than 500mg samples. The next one I tried also went to shit after several orders. Now it appears that my latest vendor is going the same way judging by the order i received yesterday. it kept me awake all night, and runs totally clear, but just tastes weak and quickly 'disappears' from the foil. i've had no euphoria, no tranquility, no rush, no hornyness - just jittery stimulation, feeling uncomfortable and even palpitations - which i've never had from 3-fpm before. The most telling sign however, is that i have very little compulsion to redose - i do keep having a bit more (naturally) but nowhere near as much as I normally would because it's not having the desired recreational effects. It's now about 30 hours since I had my first toot yesterday, and i've been feeling very fatigued since this morning - with decent stuff I can stay up all weekend without even trying. The one good point is that i've got loads of decorating done today

I'm now starting to doubt whether I've actually had any 'pure' 3-fpm since those first small samples last November - and I'm not even certain of those tbh, I'm just presuming they would have been genuine to attract customers.

Its now got to the point where I spend all my time whilst on it analysing the effects in comparison to previous batches. I've always said that if you have to think about whether a drug is working, it's a sure sign of crap drugs, so I may be coming to the end of the road with my research on this stuff (though I think I'll try one more vendor first - just in case )

It does seem odd that RCs seem less reliable than most illicit drugs, you'd think these legit businesses would have a bit more pride but it seems the opposite. I decent drug dealer wants to build trust and a good reputation, they want you to come back and be happy with your purchase in the main. But I guess people know what decent brown, coke, speed etc should be. In the later days of legal MDPV things got like this, vendors dumping who knows what out there.

I know many of you have chasing off foil down to a fine art but I much prefer the light bulb for such stuff, less waste and easier to deal with, I can make one now in about 2 mins flat, for the armature chaser it's a much better option, I can just about run stuff on foil but I can just as easily fuck it up and loose the lot.

I was tempted to give this stuff a go but the above had pretty much put me off

 

[dopeman]

Arfety fuckin Arf! Bollox to the app, I want to go into the store and say what you said

Not a problem anymore though mate, I've finally embraced the 21st century and have unlimited, unrestricted broadband at home now. So the only reason I've got balls like fuckin grapefruit is because I'm currently wanking myself to death. .

wow yall made my night with this one.

FUBAR stated it perfectly.
I've always said that if you have to think about whether a drug is working, it's a sure sign of crap drugs

 

[HouseFever]

Has anyone got any experience with plugging 3-fpm? If so whats a good dose?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Try SHM, I believe he takes it up the shitter...

 

[MrRicky]

Okay so I personally came to this blog to look for answers as to what 'phenzacaine' actually is.. Though I have received no answers I feel obligated to share my personal opinion, I amazing 21 year old male and am not massively into any form of drugs, but I recently attended a house party where my friend decided to turn up with 250g of this legal high which I and a group oft friends resorted to calling 'Gandalf' due to the fact that it's a hard word to pronounce when you're buzzed off your tits! My friend gave 10g of 'Gandalf' to test out and share between other friends who were also new too 'chems' so after a week or two trying this new drug, only a few lines a night I decided to step it up a notch and try a comparison, so I got in touch with a local dealer and bought 1g of cocaine off the guy, now being inexperienced I paid £85 for being told it was 'premium stuff' I have since done a comparison test and in my honest opinion the 'Gandalf' has a very similar effect to what I assume is decent coke but I must say the coke, obviously had a larger effect but almost too much so, I feel personally that 'Gandalf' as a legal high is much safer/cheaper/legal but as I saidi have only dabbled and my word is not gospel but I thought I'd share my thoughts to those people that, like me are new to the scene and are maybe slightly worried about taking these substances. Please be responsible. Hope some of you found this helpful as i said I'm just as we to this as you are. Peace.

 

[HouseFever]

Isnt the answer you were looking for the thread? Phenzacaine could be anything the vendors feels like putting in. But wasn't it mentioned it was 2ai. Could be MPA, phenydates, mixed with 3-fpm. Gandalf?

 

[spudgun]

Fold the foil in two, so you have a sharp crease.

Sprinkle some product along and around the crease (try to spread it , not pile it, so it melts easier)

Put the lighter, or a candle if your thumbs are burnt, quite far under the foil and gently melt the powder.

Once melted , tilt the foil diagonally towards you so the smoke drifts up the tray, set the lighter under the melted stuff and follow it with the lighter as it slides down the foil. Keep the tooter upsmoke from the product and inhale it as it rises up the tray.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Never use a candle - it creates an insulating layer of soot on the underside of the foil which just makes things more difficult.

 

[spudgun]

No worries inflo.

Yeah - some candles are no good, but I've found those tea lights are ok for just melting it down if you're stuck. I reckon electric cricket lighters are best to use to avoid fucking your thumbs up.

 

[Sprout]

Or just invest £20 in a jet lighter, a well-made glass pipe, some screens and hit it like Meth!

I think I flew the dragon chasing flag with 3-FPM more than most, but a good hit from a pipe is Godly. The only issue is the surface area, on foil; when chased properly one could maintain a co-efficient of about 7mg/sec-1 if heated slowly and completely. In the bowl of a glass pipe, it is much more difficult to liquefy and control the temperature, so more is burned. Plus, the whole ritual of Chasing the Dragon, especially with a fiendish stimulant, is a charm all of its own.

I have a complete I.V. kit to hand but I have a slight feeling I'd be a cR00k-esque pin-cushion from spike one. 8(

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Yeh, in a way I'm glad my veins are no longer usable otherwise I'd be the same...

 

[Sprout]

Plus with all the shite going round as cuts, probably as damaging as shooting street "Coke" or "Speed".

 

[kingme]

sprout, did i ever mention how i love reading your posts of techniques? its all so scientific-y, i mean id never be able to estimate the amount of drug vaped on foil but you seem to have it down pat. almost like a challenge to be met now!

 

[Sprout]

sprout, did i ever mention how i love reading your posts of techniques? its all so scientific-y, i mean id never be able to estimate the amount of drug vaped on foil but you seem to have it down pat. almost like a challenge to be met now!

This made me grin from ear to ear, and that's nothing to do with the stimulants!

The figure came from timing the state conversion from solid->(aq)->vapour - 140mg spread over a long strip of foil would take around 20 seconds from initial heat to me chasing the last few wisps.

 

[kingme]

Just out of curiosity, how long does the vaped 3fmp last for you and how often do you redose? And how lomg do you keep it up for?

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Or just invest £20 in a jet lighter, a well-made glass pipe, some screens and hit it like Meth!

I think I flew the dragon chasing flag with 3-FPM more than most, but a good hit from a pipe is Godly. The only issue is the surface area, on foil; when chased properly one could maintain a co-efficient of about 7mg/sec-1 if heated slowly and completely. In the bowl of a glass pipe, it is much more difficult to liquefy and control the temperature, so more is burned. Plus, the whole ritual of Chasing the Dragon, especially with a fiendish stimulant, is a charm all of its own.

I have a complete I.V. kit to hand but I have a slight feeling I'd be a cR00k-esque pin-cushion from spike one. 8(

Struggling to recall my maths here, but in the expression quoted above, isn't the '-1' exponent only necessary if the division symbol isn't used? I.e. 7mgsec-1?

 

[Sprout]

Struggling to recall my maths here, but in the expression quoted above, isn't the '-1' exponent only necessary if the division symbol isn't used? I.e. 7mgsec-1?

I thought so too, but my Bio Prof. found it hilarious that without the factor added, I was implying a consistent rate for eternity...
As in 'n' samples = sampling every possible example in existence, 'n-1' implies, rightfully, that one did not perform a Coliform Count on every single Coliform on the planet/measure the width of every tree in existence/add 2 inches to the measurement of every penis ever...

Plus, the unit was part of a rate equation which involves cancelling by division everything to leave an integer and a completed time frame.

8(

EDIT: plus, 'mgsec' would be a non-standard unit of its own. A la 'one bottlecase'.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Not sure I followed all that Sprout, but is it not true that the rate known as 'speed', e.g. kilometres per hour, can be expressed as 'km/h' (i.e. distance travelled divided by time taken), OR 'kmh-1' (i.e. distance travelled multiplied by time taken to the power of minus one'?

Not trying to call you out or owt, just trying to get my head round it..