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350mg of 90% pure mdma, not a very good dose

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So, I get this chunk was suppose to be .5, but looked a bit small. I got home and weighed it and it was right on. Now this molly came direct from Holland and was almost an off-white crystal, real shards when broke up. So, me being a moron and being use to the molly on dead and phish tour took 150 right off, I was feeling good, but didn't wait long enough and snorted 50mg and ate another 150mg in the course of an hour. About 45 min after the first dose i knew i was fucked and ate way to much. Was a very intense roll, I was just pouring sweat and when the peak ended, after about 4 hours of pretty much misery just laying and trying to walk, the headache and stomachache really started. Through up a good 5 times, but kept a steady but not to much water in me. Luckily I had some Valium and percs for the worst headache i have ever had, but wanted to make sure my stomach was ok to handle them and wanted at least 6 hours to have gone by since the last dose of mdma. I could feel everything coming back to normal but my head so ate a few perc 10s and 2 val tens(have a very decent tolerance, have been on mmt). Still, took about an hour to finally actually lay down and nod out to some perc dreams for about 2 hours. Woke up and was fine. So, I took the 150mg i had left yesterday around 11am and didn't really feel much at all, I think I drained all the serotonin, all i had were the sweats so took some vals again and took a nap till about 2pm and woke up feeling good again, so just took my methadone and went on with the day. I am thinking its going to be at least a month before i will feel the magic again, sucks I ruined it by taking way to much. Do you think its safe to use Valium to comedown from a roll? Seemed to work great for me.
 
Next time, try waiting at least a month between rolls, overnight is unsafe as you released your serotonin and it takes a while to regenerate. A 3 month wait is actually preferred.

I believe valium is safe, in fact, though MDMA isn't considered a "hardcore" stimulant in that compared to other stimulants, it is harder to say, do everyday, people use valium to comedown from other stimulants, I don't see why it wouldn't be fine for an MDMA comedown though I, myself feel fine during and MDMA comedown though we are all different. One thing is certain however, abuse generally doesn't steer in the direction of lighter comedowns.
 
And try to take a lower dose when dropping. 350 mg of MDMA is excessive. After dropping 150 mg, another 200 mg will only result in negative side effects. That .2 is not going to make you feel more empathy and entactogenesis.

And LSD is correct in stating that you should probably wait for a longer period between your rolls. You'll enjoy them more that way.
 
Everyone is different,

For me , 80mg is considered a light dose
100mg moderate dose
140mg a Strong dose
150mg a very strong dose
180mg a complete and utter shoot me into the air dose
200mg too much, just a complete an utter etard with eyes bouncing all over my head, a bit like those googly dolls where the eyes move around when you shake them.

YMMV of course,

But from experience and my utter opinion, you should only Take 1 dose.
No redosing,
Just 1 dose, and you also have to accept that it takes a while to kick in,

You need a decent break/wait from mdma after using that much, i suggest 3 months,
then i would perhaps recommend 150mg- 180mg in a capsule , And no additional dosing.

350mg is one hefty dose.
In the meantime while you wait, you might want to look into what people are naming my 'E-diet'
It should help to replenish excessive lost serotonin from your huge dose.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/entries/...ls-and-suffering-no-comedown.-Try-it-yourself!


Serotonin is a vital neurochemical, its not just a 'Happy Chemical' it regulates a lot of things,
Appetite, Sleeping patterns/ quality of sleep, energy levels and of course your mood. Lack of it can cause a lack of appetite, decreased concentration, anxiety, and lack of sleep as well as a crappy mood/ depression.

Take it easy,
 
How do you know it was 90%?

The purest MDMA in holland tops out at around 84.4 lab tested if I'm not mistaken.
 
I never understand these threads... like I totally understand that's what a normal dose SHOULD be. But even when I was on piracetam and had the craziest/perfect roll ever I still took around 500 mgs... I know that's a lot but I usually take a bit more and I've never heard of any of my friends rolling off of just 120 mgs. I test all my shit, I'm assuming the molly I get is not 100% pure like most bluelighters claim to get but still I couldn't possibly see even 150mgs as enough for me or anyone I personally know. Once again, just my opinion.
 
Good job. People can't even handle a 180MG dutch pill without throwing up and here you are eating 350mg of dutch. >.<
 
I dunno I have mixed feelings, I've double dropped pills that were over 100mg in a night, and then gone on to have another 3 throughout the night, eventually it did floor me.
But I had plenty of partying to do by then. This is in no way me trying to talk myself up because this was a few years ago when I didn't know anything about doses as far as drugs were concerned.

Not saying I wish to have 350mg again anytime soon, but I can understand how people wanna go to ecstasy land. But ultimately I think 160mg would be a pretty perfect dose for me.
preferably startin with 120 and then topping up 2 hours later.
 
So you took a dose, snorted more and redosed again before you've even come up....felt bloody awful for hours and probably were at some health risk...and then to cap it all you do another sizeable dose the following day?

If you care about your brain and mind, you have a funny way of showing it.
 
There is no way to know the purity of the molly. Even a reagent kit is going to tell you nothing other than if MDMA is present, and whether other ACTIVE adulterants are present. If the molly was 90% pure you would not need 350mg for a good roll, unless you aren't spacing your rolls properly.
 
Having rolled this Saturday on what I thought was 300mg, I realized it definitely was not 300mg and I rolled much harder than I expected off of just over 200mg at most. I took a ~175mg dose, and just did bumps over the course of 6 hours. The initial dose completely floored me. Still, it was diminished from taking it every couple of weeks. I have to ask- why wake up and take another 150mg? That's simply bad for your body. You do NOT need more than 150mg of decent molly eaten at once to start a roll, eating 200mg more before it even peaks is asking for negative side effects. Eating your initial dose over again in the come up period with any amphetamine drug like MDMA is a terrible idea.

I'm going to be waiting a month myself for my next roll, I'm surprised how easy it was to overdo. It's what others have said, and it's not bad advice. Benzodiazepines do help most comedowns, and they're not dangerous.
 
^ Dosing more than 1-2 hours after the initial dose is asking for negative side effects. It also doesn't increase effects and from what I hear, it just increases the stimulant aspects without any loved up feelings. Basically, you can't repeak and so after the peak, it is best not to keep dosing.

I have never actually abused MDMA so I can't really know for sure what it is like to have abused-physically or mentally-besides what I've read on here as well as erowid.
 
LogicSoDeveloped said:
^ Dosing more than 1-2 hours after the initial dose is asking for negative side effects. It also doesn't increase effects and from what I hear, it just increases the stimulant aspects without any loved up feelings. Basically, you can't repeak and so after the peak, it is best not to keep dosing.

I have never actually abused MDMA so I can't really know for sure what it is like to have abused-physically or mentally-besides what I've read on here as well as erowid.
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I don't agree. Dosing after the 2 hour mark indeed does not increase the empathy or love feelings. However dosing after this point does make you roll harder without extra empathy. So you still get increase euphoria, music appreciation ,etc AND you get a more psychedelic headspace, it gets more intense.
For example, I usually do about 300mg of MDMA (1 and a half dutch pill ). I start with a half followed by the other half at T1:30. I get a rush of empathy and usual rollign effects. Then at T:3:00 I take the last half and this is when I actually roll the hardest. You get in a psychedelic more intense headspace with less empathy, but it is much more euphoric and rushy. The comedown is managable, I use lots of anti-oxidants, like time released vitamin C, vitamin E, and time released alpha lipoic acid.

I understand that most people do it for the empathy, but I actually find the state induced by redosing later on much more intense (at a rave, I like the first part of the roll more at home) and euphoric than the first ''love stage''.
 
The purest MDMA in holland tops out at around 84.4 lab tested if I'm not mistaken.
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No, ffs, the highest proportion of the weight of a sample of MDMA.HCl that can be constituted by MDMA molecules is about that, but that doesn't mean that MDMA.HCl can't be much purer than that. Conceptually, ANY substance can potentially be 100% pure. If a sample of MDMA.HCL is 84.4% (or whatever it is) MDMA and 15.6% HCl then it is 100% pure MDMA.HCl.
 
^ this. (that 84% figure is bandied around by a lot of people who have no idea what they're talking about :\)
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There is no way to know the purity of the molly.
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that's not true. while you are correct inasmuch as a test kit can't provide this, purity of mdma can be established by, for example, gc-ms testing.

alasdair
 
Absolutely, what xyz said. people talk such crap here it's unreal. To say your cant re-peak/get higher Is absolute crap because iv done it. Whether it's a good idea for HR is an altogether different matter.

It's pretty easy to do stupid shit like this with lack of experience/knowledge.
 
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