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Dissociatives 3-tfm-pce - any experience?

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Hi,
Dies anyone have any experience with 3tfm-pce? I tried it this year, didnt had a scale and much material but it Must have been around 25mg max. All I could remember is a somehow wobbly feeling and almost no dissociation. Can anyone confirm this and has someone tried it in higher doses?
 
Hi, so I didn't try it but I saw some people reporting about it on reddit (r/dissociative)

I don't remember if there is a trip report of a high dosage but maybe you can find some information there. I didn't heard about it elsewhere
 
To give more information as I have more time right now, and also because I'm curious about the experience of others.

A lot of reports seems to indicate that this product isn't active from 20-75mg dose (oral and intranasal) but from what I gather nobody sends it to an independent lab to be tested. So who knows?

Some info from Nervewing about the pharmacology aspect (I copy paste from reddit):
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I think it would behave similarly to a 3-Cl-PCE, which is a damn shame it hasn't been synthesized yet, but that would serve as a point of reference.


Affinity-wise, with the series I worked with, the TFM compounds bound similarly to the Chlorinated compounds (this was with phenethylamines to be fair, though it was ones that were active on NMDA), I wonder if this could be extrapolated to arylcyclohexylamines. I would guess it has moderate potency, like a step down from whatever the potency of it's 3-Cl analogue would be (though also we only have 3-Cl-PCP as a point of reference- the rules kinda change between the secondary and tertiary amines) but honestly, halogenated arylcyclohexylamines (without the 2'-Oxo group) are all really weird and full of surprises. Affinity only tells us so much. Like only looking at affinity, one would presume 3-F-PCP is inactive- but its not. Surprise! 3-Cl-PCP has an odd anxiolytic and empathogenic effect. Surprise! All of the halogenated arylcyclohexylamines I've taken have been extremely unique in ways that affinity cannot even touch on. It is impossible to predict what this one will be like, in my opinion every halogenated arylcyclohexylamine is a total shot in the dark. I'm excited to see what it does"

To be fair I don't know so I can't comment it.
Also it seems that there is a lot more info in German as this product seems to had pop on German RC vendor
 
I also tried 3cl-pcp and it also didnt Produce any dissociation. But Contrary to 3tfm-pce it produced a somewhat serotonergic feeling. From what ive heard 3f-pcp does produce dissociation. So its at least not electronegativity alone which determines this activity, maybe also steric effect.
 
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