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3-FMC (16mg) - New Experience - what a study

Orangutangpsychopa

Orangutangpsychopa

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3-FMC (3-fluoromethcathinone) or 3-CMC (3-chloromethcathinone) ?

A certain letter i picked up contains a religious symbol that has 6 sharp edges. I don't know it very well but maybe it's not atomic hexagramm. How it goes, it's from Asia, from area where is no oppression or something. He checked warfarin LD50 just get know how high it is.

And started from 0.5-0.9mg.
T+1: 5 mgs.
T+2: 10mgs.
T+2:28 == Little bit stim feel and going to sleep. He was sober and needs to have some things in the fridge.

It's supposed to be a stim without empathogenics maybe. My head is little bit slow once a while and NMDA antagonism makes me feel and behave normal. Swim knows amphetamine psychosis and suffered it at certain point in life but doesn't get into conditions anymore but wants to rest. It's booze that makes swim feel good, not wine or beer. How bitter harass it is to think these: "i love my umbrella" or "i can't afford an umbrella or water?"

It doesn't taste like sweet sweet amphetamine but there was a scent of gear somewhere. Swim doesn't snort RCs anymore, he drinks some and tries to feel something. It's good to be careful if it's confusing where the synthesing is done and postal is.

So there is some methcathinone thing in my fridge, really. Maybe the double oxygen bond ceases some type of adventages or behavior. Where is the baggie now? It's good to check what it says, if wants to know what takes. And someone tried to avoid tooth problems by brushing gently the teeth with toothpaste.

Cardiovascular or kidney problems, hopefully not. Or any type of brain damages or other problems. -- Stims can be little bit nervous causing if too small dose for come-up and so on. -- Or nervousness is some type of law and sociality related thing? -- Someone claimed meph and coce and such things makes eyes dizzle if binge happens.
 
After a night of good long sleep the smell was recognised. Typical ketone? Real beta-ketone-methamphetamine analogue? Reminds me of concrete stair wax. Benzaldehyde?

34mgs and avoid of teeth contact. It's a stimulant. Tap water contains atoms, life and KMNO4. Maybe boiling and filtering will help.

Correction: So who has all the time in the world to study internet slang, american english and then internet english?

After hour 50mgs more.
 
He's from Finland. Does that explain it? No? OK. I tried. I hope you're alright there, guy. Welcome to bluelight!
 
Maybe the idea is chop the gear on glass plate. I don't suspect any but it's very common to suspect volatiles and even hydrogen fluoride in the powder. I have no idea how crystals are used but moisted tobacco could be good for powders and smoking is safest. And tobacco smokers care a shit of their lungs.

Are crystals 50% water or something else?
 
Attempting to extrapolate (8(), I believe the OP was asking if it is plausible that his salt of 3fmc is sufficiently hygroscopic to have absorbed enough water to to be half composed thereof.

ebola
 
OP.. do you suffer from schizophrenia or something alike?

Either way, i suggest you lay off the drugs a lil while!

Stay safe.

Peace.
 
you have obviously overindulged.

3-fmc - most unpleasant drug i have ever put in my body.


stay away!!!!
 
I managed to get 5 grams of 4-FMC about a month ago just before all those UK vendors went down, ended up doing all of it in a week, it was quite nice, I heard 3-FMC is more of a stimulant though and less enjoyable, stay safe.
 
I believe what you people say of it, but the idea was to get nice euphroria from quite low dosing and cheap price. Now i'm suppposed to have get rid of RC stims. I had some information of fluorinated methcathinones. "could be good if no anidepressants and neuroleptics", ehh :X

haven't got any good results from methylone also. Propably diabetes is the thing that is wrong in me. Butylone propably is even worse in my case.

My best amph/meth funhaving have been after couple beers, them to socialise with pals.

Anyway MDPV fits for all in the it's way, except "amphetamine psychosis" after, luckily if matured it passes quick with benzos and liquor.

JWHs are quite promising, can't OD easily and lacks all the problems that hashish, but with alcohol intake with bud, natural is best way to go. But JWHs have their qenuine psychedelic properities.
 
Orangutangpsychopa said:
JWHs are quite promising, can't OD easily
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The JWH- series of aminoalkylindoles, especially JWH-018 but not limited to it, are notoriously EASY to overdose on. There are a bunch of Bluelighters who have had seriously traumatic experiences with recurring negative aftereffects for months!
 
Coolio said:
The JWH- series of aminoalkylindoles, especially JWH-018 but not limited to it, are notoriously EASY to overdose on. There are a bunch of Bluelighters who have had seriously traumatic experiences with recurring negative aftereffects for months!
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I trust what you said. I had 100mg JWH-018 and was planning to dilute it to 60% vodka(i have no idea what "xxxx proof " alcohol strenght is what is used in the USA). that is, i only undestand metric system.

Well, it turned out that i just sprikled very tiny amounts to cleaned corn pipe. And before i pressed with finger tightly tobacco into the botton of the pipe. And littlebit tobacco to the top of the JWH. Moist tobacco(not wet ofcource) dry tobac burns to aggressively.:X

First trial i had something not exactly painful but something in the lungs. Then i smoked more and it was just like natures euphoria in back. And then it started to get trippy. I can't now or propably ever explain it well, but it was not amazing or scary buy very cluster mental thinking. Mostly those phenomens can't be explained detailed, at least me.

My idea was to use strong booze instead any isopropanol or acetone. Just dipp the light cigarettes to have needed accurasy. And dry them the possible best homekichen way. Easily low temperature ofcourse.

The ugly idea what i had would be use large amount dry tobacco to get it "cops won't recognice" thing. With strong alcohol/JWH solution.

I think vaporising gives the total potential of the substance, but maybe used the right way it's something like 0.25mg gives total relief.

Last words, with the pipe smoking technique there starts to get "plastic-like" layer of the melted JWH.

I hadn't any bad symptoms, but i'm just amateur and occasional smoker.
 
I don't really understand first posts in this thread.

After a night of good long sleep the smell was recognised. Typical ketone? Real beta-ketone-methamphetamine analogue? Reminds me of concrete stair wax. Benzaldehyde?

I don't get it. You home-baked this? Seems so if you're talking about some waxy things. Or what? This is what it turns into when you put the liquid onto a plate and evaporate water. It's waxy if you don't make a salt of it earlier. And keeping it mind it's not water-soluble, the best bet then is just to put it under a heated bath and wait for it to get more water soluble and work it out then? Or just stick that waxy thing up the ass and be "happy"

34mgs and avoid of teeth contact. It's a stimulant. Tap water contains atoms, life and KMNO4. Maybe boiling and filtering will help.

A reflection of home-baking methcathinone with a very strong oxidizer? And you just felt a need to write it because of the state you were in, intoxicated with whatever-it-is?

Correction: So who has all the time in the world to study internet slang, american english and then internet english?

After hour 50mgs more.
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Doesn't really matter actually but you got fucked up well and both 3-FMC and 4-FMC (known as flephedrone) are not safe chemicals. Actually, they're compared to mephedrone in toxicity, i.e. nothing is known for sure but it gives something to think about when you read such reports:

1 said:
Case 1, a 30 year old male,
presented with drowsiness (GCS 6/15), respiratory
rate 20 per minute, heart rate 47 per minute and BP
140/80mmHg. He was alert and orientated within 2
hours of presentation. He subsequently gave a
history of ingestion of 1g of mephedrone, GBL,
“neo-doves” and “neo-blues”.
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Wtf are "Neo-doves" and "Neo-blues" because I didn't get it either.

2 said:
Case 2, a 22 year old male, presented after oral
ingestion of 200mg of mephedrone and subcutaneous
injection of 3.8g of mephedrone. On arrival in the ED
he was agitated with 7mm dilated pupils, heart rate
105 per minute and BP 177/111mmHg; these features
settled within 6 hours of presentation.
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Now this idiot is a winner. Took 200mg orally and then took a syringe and injected 3.8g s.c. Such doses (200mg) are probably already overdoses but I encountered a dealer of this shit in a club and he said 100mg was "a line" when he started his shit about this and I asked him about prices for different portions out of curiosity. So it just must be impure and synthesized from 1-(4-methylphenyl)propan-1-one. The pathway I just see in my head now leads to a racemic mixture so God only knows which isomer does what. I got myself my lab grade portion of this shit months ago and really 100mg wasn't "a line" for me. This class of β-ketoamphetamines sucks. I enjoyed neither mephedrone nor flephedrone even though they were lab grade >99% pure. And I don't want to know how 3-FMC "tastes". They were the last two amphetamine RCs I tried ever in my life because now I know myself they're shit.

Your report is a good example it's no good. They're taking their toll now. I really sympathize with people who got addicted to it and kids buying it from some fat amphetamine ex-addicts. And it's really sad that this still flows on the internet and some freaks offer selling even big amounts of it, I'm talking like 50g. A new act of law was introduced in my country luckily so mephedrone is going down slowly. I hope along with its "cousins". Really, I find myself educated enough in the field I'm working in. I've never done any harm to myself with amphetamine stimulants but straight junkies who just take any next pill or sniff any next amph with a lot of impurities bought this fairy tale mephedrone is "cocaine with MDMA effects". They didn't have either. I stopped visiting one Polish forum because it started to be flooded with stupid idiots whose only aim was to get fucked up with anything available. I don't know, some probably have a term for these "know-what-shit-they-sell-now-where geeks".
 
Quite well said. But how about buphedrone? How toxic? Low doses, so little impurities won't be a problem unless abusing gets serious.
 
adder said:
I don't really understand first posts in this thread.



Doesn't really matter actually but you got fucked up well and both 3-FMC and 4-FMC (known as flephedrone) are not safe chemicals. Actually, they're compared to mephedrone in toxicity, i.e. nothing is known for sure but it gives something to think about when you read such reports:



Wtf are "Neo-doves" and "Neo-blues" because I didn't get it either.



Now this idiot is a winner. Took 200mg orally and then took a syringe and injected 3.8g s.c. Such doses (200mg) are probably already overdoses but I encountered a dealer of this shit in a club and he said 100mg was "a line" when he started his shit about this and I asked him about prices for different portions out of curiosity. So it just must be impure and synthesized from 1-(4-methylphenyl)propan-1-one. The pathway I just see in my head now leads to a racemic mixture so God only knows which isomer does what. I got myself my lab grade portion of this shit months ago and really 100mg wasn't "a line" for me. This class of β-ketoamphetamines sucks. I enjoyed neither mephedrone nor flephedrone even though they were lab grade >99% pure. And I don't want to know how 3-FMC "tastes". They were the last two amphetamine RCs I tried ever in my life because now I know myself they're shit.

Your report is a good example it's no good. They're taking their toll now. I really sympathize with people who got addicted to it and kids buying it from some fat amphetamine ex-addicts. And it's really sad that this still flows on the internet and some freaks offer selling even big amounts of it, I'm talking like 50g. A new act of law was introduced in my country luckily so mephedrone is going down slowly. I hope along with its "cousins". Really, I find myself educated enough in the field I'm working in. I've never done any harm to myself with amphetamine stimulants but straight junkies who just take any next pill or sniff any next amph with a lot of impurities bought this fairy tale mephedrone is "cocaine with MDMA effects". They didn't have either. I stopped visiting one Polish forum because it started to be flooded with stupid idiots whose only aim was to get fucked up with anything available. I don't know, some probably have a term for these "know-what-shit-they-sell-now-where geeks".
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It's a stupid joke of methcathinone fridge synthesis. I can't enjoy stims or 2Cs if not on benzos or little bit drunk. It could be diabetes. Or those just don't fit to me. Without few beers or little bit booze.

I did try make methcathinone in fridge some 5 years ago. After spoiling over 100 grams of pseudo ephedrine i managed finally to get synth right with racemizing it with liquour. Then the hobby ended because in the pharmacy they said: "stop the KMNO4 buying, you're making some kind of medicine with the ingredients. Next time we call the cops."

In the "Family guy" cartoon the is a joke of methcathinone home cooking. It's the smiling coffee pan with full of something red. It could be just that easy to crush the pseudo pills into coffee pan and add tap water and some KMNO4 and mix the shitty solution wery well. And keep in the fridge for few hours to get 5-15% pure methcathinone as a replacement of strong morning coffee. And pour it to coffee cup and drink the shit straight. LOL!

Or am i totally wrong and get it wrong? Pseudo pills in USA are red, so it could make sense.
 
Coolio said:
The JWH- series of aminoalkylindoles, especially JWH-018 but not limited to it, are notoriously EASY to overdose on. There are a bunch of Bluelighters who have had seriously traumatic experiences with recurring negative aftereffects for months!
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Ebola figured right.

So, any easy info what are realistic LD50s for JWH-073 and JWH-200? Or safeline for "hardhead" large dose hashish/bud smoker?

"Americans teach me in kindergarten to steal from smallers",

OO-Rangy.
 
I've been lurking a lot recently, and this is what inspired me to log-in.
And all I have to say is: 8o
 
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