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3 Fluorophenmetrazine

Seems like a bag of shite to me too. Poor man's PV, and possibly even more insidiously pernicious.

I haven't even been bothered to give it a whirl, based on how it appears to affect others. Another crappy stim. How thrilling.
 
after all these years, haven't you learnt?

Could say the same about you posting things like that in a drug forum ;) (when was the last time you went to the pub? (or church?))

This stuff's not too bad for me, i prefer it to EPD which gives me more jitters, and find it pretty functional; also on the upside, i don't feel as fucked using this the week after as with some stims/empathogens (with sensible doses anyway). It is more moreish than it really should be for how good it is, but you've just got to watch it.
 
I thought it was ok. Im no stim expert though. Definitely perked me up. Was functional to a point but if you go over the top it can become a little noticeable to others around you that you're acting weirder than you would normally. :D I quite like the taste of if vaped too...
 
As for 3 fluo

It's a fucking vile chemical to put up your nose, but effects are certainly worth the pain. Not as harsh as speed, but plenty of euphoria and stimulation thrillz. Funnily enough you can eat food while on this stuff. Seems like a great choice of drug for someone wanting a stim much better than, say eph, but not quite as horrible side-effects as harder stims like 'pv. It's a nice middle ground. I'll also point out the stuff is very moreish, so if you've had any addiction problems with peev, probs best to stay away.
 
Yeah truesay Raas, but I wouldn't dare put it up my nose and struggle to eat solids when actually on it, only fortified milk will go down (and no dodgy flavours either - Peanut?!).

I can always manage a massive meal before the eventual bedtime though, which is pretty unusual and helps a lot the next day.

And yeh, it took me a while to find a vendor to stick with.
 
3-fpm is something I've found of great use of late. It helps me concentrate, and actively enjoy a lot of things to a greater degree like music, and reading etc. I have however noticed that you build tolerance very quick. SWIM has been using it for over a month straight, nearly two months. They seem to feel no negative effects at all, and neither do i. Besides the desire to re-dose. It is very much a concentrated buzz i feel. It's fun with friends as a calm, mild stimulant. If i wanted to go nuts and have a party, it wouldn't be my drug of choice. I Would prefer 4MMC (Mephedrone) or MDMA. Although i find that mdma is more appropriate for more small social gatherings with loved ones; people you have deep ties and connections with previously. This 3-fpm though i have to say does draw on similarities to that connected vibe when you are sniffing it in relatively large amounts (roughly 400mg). You may experience Strong Euphoria for 20 minutes or so and then it's back to the long winded feeling of pure, clean contentment. Especially emphasised by the company you keep. This is why i have found similarities to speed (a drug i really do not enjoy at all, other than the practical use of staying awake) This 3-fpm however seems to be able to keep you up at your own will, if you want to go to sleep, you can. With no problems. Which is another reason why i enjoy it so much, perhaps too much. But that's subjective. All in all i very much enjoy it, but i have only ever snorted it. In LARGE doses. No harm has been yet, as far as i can tell. Any response to this post by anyone at all with an open mind and preferably more experience using 3fpm would be very much appreciated.
 
I'm a bit crap at vaping, seem to loose to much and I'm not going down the IV route.

Is it worth putting in empty capsules as an ROA, I've got shitloads from anti biotics I'd been prescribed, which I will empty and fill with the the 3fpm, or just bomb with a rizla?
 
Hi Stee, yes I had some at the weekend and it was the glittery stuff again - that's three times on the trot now. However, it did seem a bit stronger this time. I find the glittery stuff lacking in initial effects, but builds up slowly until you suddenly realise you're 'in the zone' - that lovely calm stimulation that you don't want to end.

Just about to order more so I'll keep you posted.
 
I'm curious, have you noticed a very slight clove flavour when you vape the 'glittery' stuff?

I'm not sure if it's the same, but the batch before last i got was supposedly 'recrystallised' (so was glittery), but i noticed a lesser effect off it and a slight hint of clove in the vapour. What it reminded me of was the disgusting flavour of vaped ethylphenidate, though only a hint of it as an aftertaste. This made me speculate that this was some of the stuff that had been mixed with IPPD that i'd heard about. This is speculation built on speculation though. The recent batch i had was a non-glittery bright white powder, but the difference was noticeable, from the effects and the clarity of the liquid when vaped - plus no clove aftertaste.
 
What really got me about the last lot i got 2 weeks ago was the precipitate or wotever you call it on the tooter. Ive had some of the dirtier stuff that leaves that yellow mank on the tooter but the crust of the last lot was grey! When I smoked the tooter (id put a gram thru it) the beetle on it looked identical in colour to a nice blob of horse.

Which I have on a plate in front of me know =D Happy Landings!
 
I'm curious, have you noticed a very slight clove flavour when you vape the 'glittery' stuff?

I'm not sure if it's the same, but the batch before last i got was supposedly 'recrystallised' (so was glittery), but i noticed a lesser effect off it and a slight hint of clove in the vapour. What it reminded me of was the disgusting flavour of vaped ethylphenidate, though only a hint of it as an aftertaste. This made me speculate that this was some of the stuff that had been mixed with IPPD that i'd heard about. This is speculation built on speculation though. The recent batch i had was a non-glittery bright white powder, but the difference was noticeable, from the effects and the clarity of the liquid when vaped - plus no clove aftertaste.

Hmm, dunno about the clove taste, but I find the glittery stuff becomes more 'chemical' tasting the more times the beetle has been melted and solidified - very reminiscent of amphetamine. Also, the beetle starts off clear but gets darker with each line until it looks pretty much like smack, whereas the bright white powder melts down so clear I often have trouble finding the fucker on the foil!
 
Yeah the best stuff leaves a crystal clear beatle right to the very end, so finding the fucker on the foil should be par for the course. Even the residue is at worst white and flaky, it seems the yellower it gets the worse the quality. Even so, even the foulest shit so far hasnt been bad, all of those from them dems have done the trick - its just that some are most definitely 'cleaner' and better than others, that wettish, clumpy stuff seeming the best.

What you going to do after the ban Fubar? Although Ive managed to amass enough RC benzos to last me the rest of my life I dont think stocking up on this shits going to work, considering its almost impossible not to chain smoke the lot, reagrdless of how much you have. I put my feelers out for a decent speed connect yesterday but it means dealing with a wanker I really don't want back in my life.

Ill just have to carry on with the Phenmet until the ban and cross that bridge then.
 
Tried this stuff recently. Was the sparkly crystal stuff not too unlike the look of good quality etizolam powder. First thoughts where "OK" nice background amped feeling while remaining more or less calm and sober feeling. Redosed a couple times then went out, had a few drinks and ended with with a wierd headache feeling and the odd bit of tinnitus. Something just didnt feel right and I thought it wasnt worth the subtle high to continue with it so i chucked the remainder of the 0.5g I purchased.

Think i'll stick to 2-fa or genuine speed for my stimmy needs, been around longer and dont feel as ropey on the body/mind.
 
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