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3,4 Methylenedioxy-N-Methylamphetamine-Who has solid info?

warmachine22

warmachine22

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Why are people so obsessed with the fact that MDMA is an Amphetamine when it really isn't? Also if they think X is an Amphetamine why don't they just stick to that GARBAGE then-SPEED?
 
OK
do i have to explain it AGAIN?
MDMA is a SUBSTITUTED AMPHETAMINE.
it is a methamphetamine molecule with a methylenedioxy ring substitution
CHEMICALLY IT IS AN AMPHETAMINE AND A PHENETHYLAMINE>
guess what?
they DO put LOTS of speed in pills, bud.
there is a goddamn difference between BEING AN AMPHETAMINE and BEING SPEED.
SPEED IS AMPHETAMINE OR METHAMPHETAMINE
period.
DOM is a psychedelic amphetamine, look up DOM. nobody would be dumb enough to call DOM speed.
goddamn.
 
The plur wears off after answering the same questions over and over...especially when theres a search bar at the top of the page.


Well said LSDMDMA&AMP
 
LSDMDMA&8875463 said:
OK
do i have to explain it AGAIN?
MDMA is a SUBSTITUTED AMPHETAMINE.
it is a methamphetamine molecule with a methylenedioxy ring substitution
CHEMICALLY IT IS AN AMPHETAMINE AND A PHENETHYLAMINE>
guess what?
they DO put LOTS of speed in pills, bud.
there is a goddamn difference between BEING AN AMPHETAMINE and BEING SPEED.
SPEED IS AMPHETAMINE OR METHAMPHETAMINE
period.
DOM is a psychedelic amphetamine, look up DOM. nobody would be dumb enough to call DOM speed.
goddamn.
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What are you a chemist or something...I would't answer that If I were you though, and secondly why are you so cranky drnnit.
 
am i a chemist?
not close.
i just have a basic understanding of MDMA and maybe a little bit of chemistry.
 
warmachine22 said:
Let me explain something though...I have used the search engine, and the conclusion that I come up with because the chain is altered is that X stands alone.
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It's not like google. You actually have to read.
I know for a fact that this info is on this site.
Edit: by "this" I meant the info that lma just gave you
 
ecstasy certainly DOESNT stand alone
not close
MDA, MDEA, MBDB (not an amphetamine, close though), bk-MDMA, methylenedioxyphenethylamine (inactive but shulgin tested it).
there are LOTS of chems with a methylenedioxy bridge on em.
 
I am well educate dmy friend and have done extensive research on the subject. You making yourself look like the dumbass though by saying ignorant rubbish like that. This forum is for informative and educational purposes. So, do more research.
 
LSDMDMA&8875521 said:
ecstasy certainly DOESNT stand alone
not close
MDA, MDEA, MBDB (not an amphetamine, close though), bk-MDMA, methylenedioxyphenethylamine (inactive but shulgin tested it).
there are LOTS of chems with a methylenedioxy bridge on em.
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What I am trying to say is they alter the brain in entirely different ways though. That is the point I am trying to make, and if that is the case then regardless of the chain it is still different then a sole amphetamine by itself. If one were to take a certain chemical and alter it slightly it becomes a new chemical. I appreciate someone who does their research unlike other people on this forum. THX.
 
LSDMDMA&8875543 said:
i think you need to read some of the stuff in the rhodium chemistry archive before you try to fucking call me out.
wiki MDMA
MDMA (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, commonly known as ecstasy, often abbreviated "E" or "X") is an entactogenic drug of the phenethylamine and amphetamine families.
read a little before you try to call me out.
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Wow you are hostile, I think you better take one of those magic pills bro. Oh be careful it might be cut with amphetamines, oh X is an amphetamine though woops. It might make you even more hostile. Bro I was trying to give you a compiment...take it for what it's worth. WHATEVER BRO.
 
oh oops im sorry bro.
i didnt see that last 2 lines.
im real sorry man, im a little spun and read too fast.
sorry man <3
 
That is cool manI realy do appreciate someone who takes the time and care involved to know what is up.
 
I am interested in something else a little more complicated though. Do yo think you could help?
 
LM&A has this covered but, think of it this way:

Ethanol and Methanol are both alcohols, and yet are gonna react with your body in drastically different ways. All due to a little change up in the base molecule (specifically, an extra CH2 group).

Speed (meth/amphetamines) and MDMA both have the same amphetamine group, but will cause different reactions to your body due to the chemical differences in the molecules.

As far as chemical names go, it's the last part of the name that typically tells you what class your molecule/compound is. All the numbers and extra names preceeding that class name are just telling you what else is there, and where it is.

So... Even though they both do different things, since they are both based on that amphetamine base, they both are in that class.
 
Blazif07 said:
LM&A has this covered but, think of it this way:

Ethanol and Methanol are both alcohols, and yet are gonna react with your body in drastically different ways. All due to a little change up in the base molecule (specifically, an extra CH2 group).

Speed (meth/amphetamines) and MDMA both have the same amphetamine group, but will cause different reactions to your body due to the chemical differences in the molecules.

As far as chemical names go, it's the last part of the name that typically tells you what class your molecule/compound is. All the numbers and extra names preceeding that class name are just telling you what else is there, and where it is.

So... Even though they both do different things, since they are both based on that amphetamine base, they both are in that class.
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You sound like you know exactly what I need to no. The complicated stuff. One chemical is changed into another amd etc..until the end result is MDMA HCL. That is the compilcated stuff.
 
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