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3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

Considering his recent trip report on 4-HO-MET in the trip reports section, it's not looking too hopeful we'll see a trial very soon. Understandable though.
 
I was going to order 2g of this. So it's like MDPV? I hope it's not neurotoxic or something like that, as I'm going to take a trial with it.
 
i will post a report soon. MDPV is one of the few stimulants i have tried that i truly hated, but so many people loved it (and alpha-PPP) that i feel as if i should give MDPPP a chance before writing off the whole series. i assume MDPPP is a DARI as well.

if MDPPP has one carbon in the alpha position and MDPV has three, has the homolog with a two carbon chain been tested?
 
I found it to be much more like a straightforward stimulant than MDPV, with far less of the edgyness/over-focusing and none of the prosexual qualities.

My sample wasn't water soluble, it wouldn't even dissolve in vodka. I did snort some though before realising that...40mg was an agreeable dose, but probably very wasteful.
 
Not soluble in water? If its the hcl salt it WILL be soluble in water (or did a freak the oxalate)?

As for the above suggested 3,4-Methylendioxi-pyrrolidinobutyrophenon,its unsubstituted variants Mebutamin (Methylaminobutyrophenon) and PBP (Pyrrolidinobutyrophenon) have been proven to be accepted Stimulants in humans in doses of 10-25mg and ~15mg respectively.The C4 chain could be a sweet spot for the cathinone stimulants in regards to its overall superior profiles.
 
My sample is water soluable. I pluggeda bout 10mg and works pretty smooth, like MDPV but without the side-effects. I was wondering if this stuff should be slightly brown and sticky? As my sample is. I hope this is right.
 
Ne0 said:
My sample is water soluable. I pluggeda bout 10mg and works pretty smooth, like MDPV but without the side-effects. I was wondering if this stuff should be slightly brown and sticky? As my sample is. I hope this is right.
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ask yourself... how many pure chemicals can you think of which are brown and sticky?
 
i recall the first batches of MDPV were said to be brown and contaminated with pyrrolidine, im not sure how MDPV and MDPPP differ in their routes of synthesis, but would it be reasonable to assume that this MDPPP batch has unreacted pyrrolidine as well?
 
vecktor said:
ask yourself... how many pure chemicals can you think of which are brown and sticky?
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Well it's not really sticky, just sticks on the bag easily. This is light brown, not brown. I hope there isn't anything toxic in this.

Anyway the effects feels pretty much same like MDPV, but without paranoia and anxiety. Also recreational doses are something like ~25mg. I like this more than MDPV, as this is much more smooth.
 
ok, MDPPP is vastly superior to MDPV. still has a tiency weency ickyness to it, a lingering dyspeptic je ne sais quoi, but much closer to a MPH type cleanliness. on the come up i seriously doubt i could tell the difference between 20mg of MDPPP orally and 20mg of MPH orally, but two hours later the coke-like nastiness begins to rear its ugly head.
still good stuff though, seriously.

EDIT: about five hours later it does leave a lingering shitty mood, nothing severe, but im certainly not feeling my most upbeat
 
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ok, MDPPP is vastly superior to MDPV. still has a tiency weency ickyness to it, a lingering dyspeptic je ne sais quoi, but much closer to a MPH type cleanliness. on the come up i seriously doubt i could tell the difference between 20mg of MDPPP orally and 20mg of MPH orally, but two hours later the coke-like nastiness begins to rear its ugly head.
still good stuff though, seriously.
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so you say this is equipotent to methylphenidat? maybe also a good study/add aid?
 
i know a study was done on its metabolites, a while back RZ suggested that MDPV would have a similar toxic dihydroxy metabolite as bk-MDMA, i cant see any reason why MDPPP would not have the same property. any ideas about the toxicity of this compound? i could see myself using MDPPP regularly if it does not have some nightmarish pro-oxidant metabolite.
 
MDPV would have a similar toxic dihydroxy metabolite as bk-MDMA
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It could not have. MDPV has a 5 carbon side chain which is not going to get shorter by any metabolic route.

Also, the pyrrolidine gets easily cleaved away from the molecule, so the amine probably leaves the molecule quicker than the methylenedioxy ring can be metabolized.
 
i think i was a bit overzealous about MDPPP, i must admit the first time i tried it i had taken 10mg of MPH an hour earlier and this effected the experience more than i realized. when i took 35mg of MDPPP today i felt very little effect, then i added 600µg of desoxypipradrol to the mix an hour later and took off! thus far it has that pharmacological tofu vibe, like the 2C-D of DARIs...which does not make much sense i know...
 
i have been taking MDPPP every day and night and i really need to stop because im getting terribly paranoid that its not a DARI - but really some kind of neurotoxic 5ht releaser, i never have a real comedown but i just cant stop looking at the structural similarity to bk-MDMA and fearing for my serotonergic neurons! i suppose i have no reason to think this, but at the beginning of this thread haribo said (twice) that the action of MDPPP is "totally different" than MDPV, anyone know why he said that?
 
I'd take above posts as a sign towards addicitive qualities, just like MDPV....
If you seriously are paranoid about it being dangerous or toxic, why the hell keep taking it? More material, less rest and sleep for your body won't help you in neither case of paranoia, toxicity or any kind of harm reduction!

Not the preacher here, but come on, this is straight outta the RC labs, you really wanna take the risk by binging it as a first test??

I might be getting a small sample of this soon, but as I said.. use it responsibly guys.
 
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