2nd winstrol cycle.

karona

karona

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Hey all. Being naturally muscular anyway. I done a cycle of 10-15mg/day winstrol. Also included was the norm of 1g of protien/lb of body weight and etc. (also this is for a male cycle, am aware of the 10mg day for women)

Getting to the point. Having a half life of 48 hrs. Can i take this every 36hrs and get about the same results? I have 16 10mg pills @ the moment. I gained well on my last one and kept all my gains. I do not want to do a literal cycle(as i do not like taking hormone related supplements and want to keep almost all gains as well)

Or should i just do the 10-15mg/ day like last which provided good results?
 
karona said:
Hey all. Being naturally muscular anyway. I done a cycle of 10-15mg/day winstrol. Also included was the norm of 1g of protien/lb of body weight and etc. (also this is for a male cycle, am aware of the 10mg day for women)

Getting to the point. Having a half life of 48 hrs. Can i take this every 36hrs and get about the same results? I have 16 10mg pills @ the moment. I gained well on my last one and kept all my gains. I do not want to do a literal cycle(as i do not like taking hormone related supplements and want to keep almost all gains as well)

Or should i just do the 10-15mg/ day like last which provided good results?
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you don't have enough...the active life of Winstrol is only 8-9 hours, making the half life around 4-4.5 hours....not sure where you got a half life of 48 hours from...oral winstrol is best taken split into two doses per day...also 10-15 mg/ed for men is hardly enough...the effective dose for men is a minimum of 50 mg/ed, though I have seen people get gains on as little as 30 mg/ed, but that could have been attributed to diet, much like your first cycle...you also need to take it for at least 4 weeks anything less than that is wasting it

what's your stats? I can't in good conscience recommend a cycle even though you've already kind of done one without knowing them.
 
I am a male and an ex powerlfiter/body builder. A master at nutrition. Now i was taking 10-15mg a day. For like two weeks and a couple days after that. I cannot remember the source but i was digging around and it said winstrol has a half life of 48hrs.

Either way, i have always been naturally strong and in good shape. I believe that it just don't take much for me(possibly a higher natural testosterone level. Because i gained 8lbs muscle in basically 2 1/2 weeks.. Kept it all too. Then took 5mg /day for 3 days after stopping the 10-15mg day or so.

Women can take 10mg a day for a cycle i was looking up but men can take much larger amounts. So i don't want to take large oral doses for risk of liver damage.

I think i attribute this to my genetics...hell idk
 
karona said:
I am a male and an ex powerlfiter/body builder. A master at nutrition. Now i was taking 10-15mg a day. For like two weeks and a couple days after that. I cannot remember the source but i was digging around and it said winstrol has a half life of 48hrs.

Either way, i have always been naturally strong and in good shape. I believe that it just don't take much for me(possibly a higher natural testosterone level. Because i gained 8lbs muscle in basically 2 1/2 weeks.. Kept it all too. Then took 5mg /day for 3 days after stopping the 10-15mg day or so.

Women can take 10mg a day for a cycle i was looking up but men can take much larger amounts. So i don't want to take large oral doses for risk of liver damage.

I think i attribute this to my genetics...hell idk
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nah the half life of winstrol is very short...I'd attribute your gains to your diet and training and you couldn't gain 8 lbs of muscle in 2 1/2 weeks...it is impossible even with AAS to gain more than 1 lb of muscle/week. Add insulin and HGH and that kind of stuff and you might could push it, but it's unlikely.

Winstrol Profile

Stanozolol
[17beta-Hydroxy-17-methyl-5alpha-androstano[3,2-c]pyrazole]
Molecular Weight: 344.5392
Molecular Formula: C22H36N2O
Melting Point:N/A
Manufacturer: (Originally) Sterling
Release Date:1962
Effective Dose(men): 50-100mgs/day
Effective Dose (women): 2.5-10mgs/day
Active Life:8hours
Detection Time:3 weeks (oral) to 9 weeks (injectable)
Androgenic/Anabolic Ratio:30:320
 
out of curiosity I'd love to see your diet. I am always looking to learn from masters :)

8 pounds in 2 weeks is ridiculous if you think thats pure muscle...maybe you are a genetic freak though...most people seem to max out around 1 pound per week of lean gains on strong cycles.

I have been gaining about 1.5 pounds a week for 3 months but I had dropped about 15 pounds of lean tissue over a long long surf trip (where I ate very little). So it was rebound gains and on some test and deca. Its a startling difference to gain that amount of weight. Everybody around you can tell you are gaining muscle weight at that rate.
 
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It is hard for me to gain sometimes. The hard part is staying on the diet. Not partying too much and all that.

I shall post up my info when i get off work this evening. I'm a picky eater so it might take a minute. All my life i have done construction work and heavy lifting type stuff. I wonder if that helped me out later on in life's physical maturity. Plus i train MMA at the same time.

As far as half life goes. Thanks for the info. I may had been looking at injectible amounts or something of an unknown mg.
 
socalthizzn said:
i dont use steroids but a buddy of mine did, he was specifically using winstrol and now he has breast tissue built up so big he's like a c cup. full on woman tits. be careeeeeeful. ;)
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what else was he using and was the gyno there before, because Winstrol doesn't convert to estrogen and it also prevents progesterone uptake, it is extremely unlikely that the Winstrol caused his problem.
 
can you cite a source about preventing progesterone uptake. Not saying its false but it smacks of bro-science.

also, maakshif please respond to my myth about nolvadex thread!!! At least one person should read iton this forum!!!!!!!
 
Matsuo Munefusa. said:
can you cite a source about preventing progesterone uptake. Not saying its false but it smacks of bro-science.

also, maakshif please respond to my myth about nolvadex thread!!! At least one person should read iton this forum!!!!!!!
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I'll take a look at it.

DrugsProfiles - Winstrol

It also has an anti progestrogenic effect and for that reason Winstrol is advised to be used in conjunction with Deca Durabolin to counteract the progesterone it produces. (Though it isn’t completely clear how this occurs).
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I think the reason it does this is because Winstrol shares a binding site with progesterone and Winstrol binds more strongly to the site than progesterone, therefore preventing progesterone uptake.
 
socalthizzn said:
i dont use steroids but a buddy of mine did, he was specifically using winstrol and now he has breast tissue built up so big he's like a c cup. full on woman tits. be careeeeeeful. ;)
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Thats cold hard bullshit right there.

Winstrol does NOT aromatize to estrogen on any level. It only aromatizes to DHT (baldness).

Many people use winny specifically for that reason.
And as far as your friend, its his fault 100% for not knowing what the abbreviation "PCT" means.
 
maakshif said:
I'll take a look at it.

DrugsProfiles - Winstrol



I think the reason it does this is because Winstrol shares a binding site with progesterone and Winstrol binds more strongly to the site than progesterone, therefore preventing progesterone uptake.
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I was talking about a scientific peer reviewed source not a link of a drug profile on a bobybuilding...lots of myths and broscience out there on the internet...
 
Bojangles69 said:
Thats cold hard bullshit right there.

Winstrol does NOT aromatize to estrogen on any level. It only aromatizes to DHT (baldness).

Many people use winny specifically for that reason.
And as far as your friend, its his fault 100% for not knowing what the abbreviation "PCT" means.
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that bold part isn't correct, Winstrol doesn't aromatize at all, be into estrogen, progesterone, prolactin, or DHT. It is already 5a reduced into DHT, therefore instead of aromatizing into DHT then binding to DHT receptors, it immediately is able to bind with the receptors.
 
See im not really an advocate of seroids. But if i were going to use. Probably would be winny for the fact of no estrogen action.

I had quit smoking as well before i hit started training again and dieting. Maybe that's why i was able to gain so fast on top of not training full time for a few yrs.
 
16 pills?

karona said:
Hey all. Being naturally muscular anyway. I done a cycle of 10-15mg/day winstrol. Also included was the norm of 1g of protien/lb of body weight and etc. (also this is for a male cycle, am aware of the 10mg day for women)

Getting to the point. Having a half life of 48 hrs. Can i take this every 36hrs and get about the same results? I have 16 10mg pills @ the moment. I gained well on my last one and kept all my gains. I do not want to do a literal cycle(as i do not like taking hormone related supplements and want to keep almost all gains as well)

Or should i just do the 10-15mg/ day like last which provided good results?
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with 16 pills I'd save them for a couple of HOT weekends with the wife!

winstrol has the affect of increasing your free testosterone level at the low dose your talking about... but it won't really build you up much...but it WILL make you hornier... so for a weekend do 2 friday (morning and afternoon) and the morning/noon/night saturday and sunday... and stay in bed (or on the floor, couch, whatever) with your wife/gf the whole weekend!
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winstrol and free test

maakshif said:
you don't have enough...the active life of Winstrol is only 8-9 hours, making the half life around 4-4.5 hours....not sure where you got a half life of 48 hours from...oral winstrol is best taken split into two doses per day...also 10-15 mg/ed for men is hardly enough...the effective dose for men is a minimum of 50 mg/ed, though I have seen people get gains on as little as 30 mg/ed, but that could have been attributed to diet, much like your first cycle...you also need to take it for at least 4 weeks anything less than that is wasting it

what's your stats? I can't in good conscience recommend a cycle even though you've already kind of done one without knowing them.
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one interesting thing about winstrol (and proviron which isn't anabolic at all) is that at 15-20mg of winstrol a day you'll double your free testosterone level...

so say a mild cycle of 250mg of test-e a week gets a real boost from just a little winstrol not because of the direct anabolic affects of the winstrol but because it ties up so much shbg your FREE test levels double. :)
 
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