Introduction
As well as starting a blog, I also tried IV'ing my Buprenorphine (Temgesic 0.4's and 0.2's), late afternoon yesterday, and again today... read about it in the blog...
I have some curious questions and pondering points that I need clarification on, but first a little background info.
My gear:
1.6 mg Buprenorphine (Temgesic tablets, 3 x 0.4 mg and 2 x 0.2 mg)
Sealed kit (Kit A) containing:
-needle with cap & 2 ml syringe
-alcohol swab
-25 ml cup and a cotton piece that fills about half the cup uncompressed
-disposable vile of 1.5 ml sterile saline H20 (0,9% NaCl)
Stericup set (Kit B) containing: --- (genius, basic necessities packed sterile and the pack is no bigger than 2x3')
-Mixing cup with cool orange handle
-Absorption pads for cleaning blood after shot
-Sterifilt (1.0 micron filter - neatly fits onto syringe)
Figure 1 Picture of a Sterifilt solo lying beside the Stericup, and one with a syringe attached, slurping up 'goodies' from the Stericup.
Method
1. So basically I crush the pills in the 25ml cup (from Kit A)
2. Put in the H20 and stir with the plunger end of a sterile syringe until I have a thin milky solution without any visible suspended solids; I used 3 ml H20, because about 1/3 of the volume disappears when filtering through the cotton in the 25 ml cup (noticed this yesterday and ended up using more pills and more water...)
3. I slowly squirt the solution into the Stericup
4. I use the Sterifilt to suck up the solution into a new syringe (I guess I could use the same one all the way through, so long as sterility is maintained, but I'm being extra safe since I'm a complete newbie to IV'ing)
5. I remove the filter, and quickly stick on the capped needle. Any air, I remove right before shooting.
Results
What I'm left with is a syringe hopefully containing as much Buprenorphine as possible and as little lactose and other stuff. The solution I get is clear, and usually only about 2/3 of the original volume solution actually comes through after cotton and Sterifilt filtering.
With 3 ml of H20 0,9% NaCl and 1.6 mg worth of Bupe in Temgesic sublingual tabs, I get almost precisely 2 ml of solution, perfect for the 2 ml syringe (although this makes it a little harder to pull back and check for blood in terms of making sure that I hit the highway and that I am in the right lane).
Anyways, I had to shoot 4 different places, different amounts at each point, getting shakier and shakier as it all went on and wrong... Horrible shooting.... after only my second IV attempt ever, I think it is relatively well done, but damn, my arms look like I've shot 6 times today already (thus, healing time, not IV'ing again for a while); missed first shot by a tiny amount, and I think I subcutaneously injected about 0.1 ml in my right arm, then about 0.4 ml in medial cubital vein in my right arm, and about 0.5 ml in brachial vein in my left arm, and the final shot in the cephalic vein in my left arm.
Very shortly after I got that adrenaline, uncomfortable sweaty feeling which led me to at least dial in the emergency number on the phone, so all I'd have to do was press the green call button and then move to somewhere around people and ask for help if anything went wrong... But I knew it was just the adrenaline, and of course the drug taking effect, so I was patient, and guess what, it's passed anyways.
Discussion & conclusion/questions
Now I'm just sitting sucking out whatever Bupe might be left in the cotton filter, hoping that I have not wasted my time trying IV (yesterday I really enjoyed the effects, but mostly the thrill of injecting)... Anyways, with all this in and out business, must've fucked up the needle tip, and probably damaged some places in and around my veins that requires some recovery time.
-What are the recovery times for the most used veins for IV? Do they every regenerate the damaged vein wall and so forth?
I know this has been answered somewhere on BL, and there are actually plenty diagrams available on the net, describing what effect needles have on veins, but in terms of recovery time and vein integrity, I couldn't find anything easily via Google or the BL search (btw... I think that the search engine on BL sucks... so please, anyone who can refer me to a post about BL search functionality, tips and tricks, and FAQ, please say so)
-Is a good Buprenorphine H20 solution supposed to be clear?
@ Cap'n H You IV Bupreonorphine a lot, can you sum up some info that clarifies my questions about vein recovery and solution colour? No need to make an immense effort, just seems like an experienced guy like you is the right guy to ask.
-Is there anything but lactose and buprenorphine in both Temgesic and Subutex?
Although some threads here on BL list all sorts of ingredients, the local medical guides around here, claim lactose to be the only other ingredient...
This post is prone to some editing, when I get around to it, but for the time being, I think I got things covered, now I just need some answers...
As well as starting a blog, I also tried IV'ing my Buprenorphine (Temgesic 0.4's and 0.2's), late afternoon yesterday, and again today... read about it in the blog...
I have some curious questions and pondering points that I need clarification on, but first a little background info.
My gear:
1.6 mg Buprenorphine (Temgesic tablets, 3 x 0.4 mg and 2 x 0.2 mg)
Sealed kit (Kit A) containing:
-needle with cap & 2 ml syringe
-alcohol swab
-25 ml cup and a cotton piece that fills about half the cup uncompressed
-disposable vile of 1.5 ml sterile saline H20 (0,9% NaCl)
Stericup set (Kit B) containing: --- (genius, basic necessities packed sterile and the pack is no bigger than 2x3')
-Mixing cup with cool orange handle
-Absorption pads for cleaning blood after shot
-Sterifilt (1.0 micron filter - neatly fits onto syringe)
Figure 1 Picture of a Sterifilt solo lying beside the Stericup, and one with a syringe attached, slurping up 'goodies' from the Stericup.
Method
1. So basically I crush the pills in the 25ml cup (from Kit A)
2. Put in the H20 and stir with the plunger end of a sterile syringe until I have a thin milky solution without any visible suspended solids; I used 3 ml H20, because about 1/3 of the volume disappears when filtering through the cotton in the 25 ml cup (noticed this yesterday and ended up using more pills and more water...)
3. I slowly squirt the solution into the Stericup
4. I use the Sterifilt to suck up the solution into a new syringe (I guess I could use the same one all the way through, so long as sterility is maintained, but I'm being extra safe since I'm a complete newbie to IV'ing)
5. I remove the filter, and quickly stick on the capped needle. Any air, I remove right before shooting.
Results
What I'm left with is a syringe hopefully containing as much Buprenorphine as possible and as little lactose and other stuff. The solution I get is clear, and usually only about 2/3 of the original volume solution actually comes through after cotton and Sterifilt filtering.
With 3 ml of H20 0,9% NaCl and 1.6 mg worth of Bupe in Temgesic sublingual tabs, I get almost precisely 2 ml of solution, perfect for the 2 ml syringe (although this makes it a little harder to pull back and check for blood in terms of making sure that I hit the highway and that I am in the right lane).
Anyways, I had to shoot 4 different places, different amounts at each point, getting shakier and shakier as it all went on and wrong... Horrible shooting.... after only my second IV attempt ever, I think it is relatively well done, but damn, my arms look like I've shot 6 times today already (thus, healing time, not IV'ing again for a while); missed first shot by a tiny amount, and I think I subcutaneously injected about 0.1 ml in my right arm, then about 0.4 ml in medial cubital vein in my right arm, and about 0.5 ml in brachial vein in my left arm, and the final shot in the cephalic vein in my left arm.
Very shortly after I got that adrenaline, uncomfortable sweaty feeling which led me to at least dial in the emergency number on the phone, so all I'd have to do was press the green call button and then move to somewhere around people and ask for help if anything went wrong... But I knew it was just the adrenaline, and of course the drug taking effect, so I was patient, and guess what, it's passed anyways.
Discussion & conclusion/questions
Now I'm just sitting sucking out whatever Bupe might be left in the cotton filter, hoping that I have not wasted my time trying IV (yesterday I really enjoyed the effects, but mostly the thrill of injecting)... Anyways, with all this in and out business, must've fucked up the needle tip, and probably damaged some places in and around my veins that requires some recovery time.
-What are the recovery times for the most used veins for IV? Do they every regenerate the damaged vein wall and so forth?
I know this has been answered somewhere on BL, and there are actually plenty diagrams available on the net, describing what effect needles have on veins, but in terms of recovery time and vein integrity, I couldn't find anything easily via Google or the BL search (btw... I think that the search engine on BL sucks... so please, anyone who can refer me to a post about BL search functionality, tips and tricks, and FAQ, please say so)
-Is a good Buprenorphine H20 solution supposed to be clear?
@ Cap'n H You IV Bupreonorphine a lot, can you sum up some info that clarifies my questions about vein recovery and solution colour? No need to make an immense effort, just seems like an experienced guy like you is the right guy to ask.
-Is there anything but lactose and buprenorphine in both Temgesic and Subutex?
Although some threads here on BL list all sorts of ingredients, the local medical guides around here, claim lactose to be the only other ingredient...
This post is prone to some editing, when I get around to it, but for the time being, I think I got things covered, now I just need some answers...
