(2ct2/20 mg)+(2ce/12 mg)+(4-aco-dmt/15 mg) Experienced

[champ]

I started out with 12 mg 2ce and 15 of 4acodmt. I am familiar with this combination and have come to expect a lot of visuals, pleasurable body feelings and mental jelly. I'd say that while on these two compounds at the same time it is possible for me to get along in public and express myself alright in conversations but the mental state is not as clear as with 2ce alone. The 4acodmt warms up the experience but also introduces elements of confusion and feelings of drunkenness.

I ate the 2ce at around 11pm, the 4acodmt at about 11:45, was at a party with friends and had eaten a light dinner about an hour previously. I am very experienced with psychedelics and have a lot of tolerance for phenethylamines in particular. None of my friends were on these drugs but they were mostly high.

At around 1 am my friend asked for some drugs and I had 2ct2 in my pocket. I gave him one 20mg capsule and then took one myself. Within 45 minutes I was very nauseous and very very high

The nausea was actually not that bothersome but I threw up 3 or 4 times during the trip and definitely had a shaky stomach. However, the trip was so incredible and particularly the bodily sensations of pleasure were so intense that the nausea was almost a good thing because it kept me somewhat grounded in my body. If I had been at home and not out at a party I likely would have completely disconnected from physical reality. As it was, I had a hard time standing up at times because I couldn't really feel my body as anything other than tremors of pleasure and I was indeed shaking (hands, legs jigging) and for about 45 minutes could only sit down and be overwhelmed by the visuals.

Music was simply wonderful, I felt a lot of mdma-like feelings of empathy, love and compassion for my friends and was so so happy overall. I was slightly concerned at points with how far from reality I was in a public space but it was a friendly, familiar and safe space where I had people to turn to if I was too incapacitated or needed to go home. Getting home was actually a bit scary because I wasn't with my girlfriend but it all worked out in the end thanks to friends.

Remarkably, a few people said they couldn't tell I was tripping but I felt really crazy! Overall, I don't think the 4aco-dmt was necessary in this combination. It may have contributed to the cosmically orgasmic feelings (or it may not have, I am not sure) but it was definitely pushed aside by the 2ce and 2ct2. Visuals were among the best I have ever had, definitely more CEV's than on acid.

I would definitely take 2ce+2ct2 together again and in fact I am looking forward to exploring the 2ct's a bit more. The nausea aspect has always sort of turned me off but it seems that you just gotta get high enough to not care about the nausea.

 

[RobotRipping]

cool report. After years of using the 2c's I must say they are almost entirely useless without benadryl/gravol and/or cannabis (for nausea/anxiety). The 4-aco-dmt most certainly contributed to the cosmically orgasmic feelings, I love 4-aco-dmt for this reason. The tryptamine buzz just kicks in and I can hardly feel my body. When mixed with the 2c's, the buzz becomes hard to describe for me and I get really confused and almost go on a psychedelic nod due to the intensity.

Did you find the different psychs came together as one unique psychedelic? And yeah, the visuals were probably outstanding. 2c-e scares me these days but I had some amazing experiences mixing it with 4-aco-dmt when i was far less sensitive.

For me 2c-t-2 was like a mini 2c-e, very fast to kick in and peak and wear off. One of my favourite 2c combos is 2c-e with an equal dose of 2c-i. Many times I could not see a few feet ahead of me because the visuals were so intense.

 

[champ]

hey, thanks for your reply.

I have come to prefer combining drugs rather than only taking one because I do think they create a new psychedelic experience and I've grown somewhat jaded over the years. I am looking to get really far out there and many drugs on their own don't do it for me, or else the doses that I require can come with unpleasant body load. For example, 30 mg of 2ce causes a lot more of the negatives of 2ce to come out but 10 mg of 2ce+20 mg of 4-aco-dmt combines the best of both.

Some combinations I have found to be just not that great. I actually thought 2ce and 2ci together was sort of a confusing mish-mash.

Another really good one I have found is 2cp+LSD. These go great, although take the 2cp first and the LSD like 2 or 3 hours later, once you really are feeling the 2cp kicking in. 2cb goes well with LSD, but in this case take it about 2 hours into the L experience.

I think that combining chemicals can often be all about the timing, as you want to get the peaks to more or less coincide. And of course, always be safe! Especially be careful with new chems and 2ct-x. Always take a material on its own first before combining it with something else--always figure out what doses are most comfortable for you by starting low and being in a comfortable environment.