2ci vs 2ce

[rouss]

could someone describe the difference between the effects of these 2 compounds (in a nutshell) potency, visuals, bodyload etc.. Im not taking them . Im just curious the pharmacology is so similar??? thanks

 

[allium]

2C-E and 2C-I are quite different chemicals, though they have certain similarities.
2C-E is more potent, more visual, more "bodyloading", a little more longer-lasting, and often gives deep and profound trips, full of mindfuck. It is also emotionally neutral, it doesn't affect mood much(This is in my experience).
2C-I is a well-balanced psychedelic: nice visuals, pleasant body high, emphathy. Trips also can be deep and profound, especially for a "psychedelic newbie". 2C-I was my first psychedelic, and it was really magical for me.

2C-E is great for experienced psychonauts, 2C-I is extremelly well for the beginners.

 

[rouss]

thanks much

 

[Solipsis]

The potency in milligrams is about the same.
Visuals for me were very warm (glowing orange) with 2C-I but otherwise nothing too special, there was a certain stimulation and clarity to it all.
With 2C-E it felt more clinical and cold, the visuals reflected the non-mood I was in, very neutral and rational. But, there was something peacefully deep and majestic about it that I found much more interesting than I ever found 2C-I to be. Not that recreational really, but a very worthwhile experience nonetheless.
2C-I bodyload is moderate for me while 2C-E's has been quite heavy.

Is there anything in particular you are wondering about? And how are you interested in them but not in taking them I wonder? Not that I mean to motivate you to try really.

You can ask for a comparison here but if you want to know more about this I suggest you read through the Big & Dandy 2C-I thread and the Big & Dandy 2C-E thread. Both of which can be found through the index in my signature.

 

[rouss]

thanks

Thanks for the advise. Im new to the sight. I already got yelled at for asking a question to specifically. anyway , I have used psychedelics bafore. But none in the catagory of "research chemical". I guess this is the place to learn about them. I never used recreational drugs only entheogens. (I call them compounds)

 

[Survived Abortion]

I find it odd that many people describe 2C-E as cold and clinical etc. My experience with 2C-E is quite extensive, and those descriptions don't come to mind when thinking about the nature of the experience. It does seem more neutral emotionally than other drugs in the way that it doesn't seem to cause so much of a bias in your reasoning or throw you off at tangents. Maybe. And there is a presence and clarity there that is less apparent than on some other psychedelics. It does, however, like any other psychedlic, give you the opportunity to cultivate positive emotions. Among it's broad spectrum of potential.

I can't comment on 2C-I because it didn't elicit any effects above threshold for me, but that could easily be attributed to the fact that I only used it once, at a low dose, and for all I know could have been bunk. I'm sure it's a wonderful phenethylamine. People tend to find it lucid and stimulating, with pleasant visuals.

 

[rouss]

would you guys or anybody describe 2ci as "friendlier" than 2ce?

 

[PROZ4C]

Is there value in trying 2ci or 2ce for someone who has already had alot of LSD trips?

When you guys say that 2ci is has stimulation to it but 2ce doesn't... are you talking similar to the stimulant effect of LSD? if 2ce lacks that, than I would be interested actually I love the speedyness of acid but its not always something I want.

 

[allium]

I already got yelled at for asking a question to specifically. anyway

Yes, this happens. We can't tell you what you take, but we can tell you about the effects of each compound, so you'll make the decision yourself.

I guess this is the place to learn about them.

Yes, you're in a right place!

would you guys or anybody describe 2ci as "friendlier" than 2ce?

Yep, absolutely. More friendlier, warmer and smoother.
Though I felt myself miserable tripping hard on 2C-I, and I never had such feeling on 2C-E.
Anyhow, be in right set&setting.

Is there value in trying 2ci or 2ce for someone who has already had alot of LSD trips?

I never tried LSD, but I doubt it is ultimate psychedelic. Nonetheless, it should be great and awesome.
And I always learned something(if not about me, then about psychedelics :D) new from taking new chemical, and my trips are always magical when I try a new compound. So, IMO 2C-E(and 2C-I probably too) absolutely worth trying.

When you guys say that 2ci is has stimulation to it but 2ce doesn't...

Both are stimulating is some sense, but they are different. 2C-I stimulation is really pleasant, unlike 2C-E stimulation, which is uncomfortable.

 

[ResinTeeth]

would you guys or anybody describe 2ci as "friendlier" than 2ce?

No. I haven't done 2C-E, but my experience with 2C-I was pretty awful. I wouldn't have called it "friendly" at all, but instead rather annoying. It took a solid hour and a half to come up. I then began to feel energetic and euphoric sort of like an amphetamine with a psychedelic undertone. The rushing euphoria ceased after about another hour or so and then turned into a very bland, mindless state. Visuals were unlike tryptamine/ergotamine visuals. The general motion and conduct of these visuals was more subtle in nature and could best be described as making larger figures lose their rigidity and become loose and undulating at the edges. Also noted a psychedelic "sheen" or glow about objects. The experience or at least the sleeplessness it encouraged lasted for quite some time. However, my largest issue with it was the headspace. It was like a forced forgetting, not quite ego death, but it was as though my memory was disengaged and I was constantly confused. This confusion and lack of memory however was not followed by a deep psychedelia like that I had experienced with mushrooms and LSD. It was as though I was constantly on the edge of crossing the border into something enjoyable, but instead stayed in this tepid, aggravating state of mind.

Not that my experience is everyone's, but I like to offer my experience anyways.

 

[IamMe90]

would you guys or anybody describe 2ci as "friendlier" than 2ce?

Yes. You can take the above description with a grain of salt; not that I doubt what he said is true for him but 2c-i is generally NOT a hard trip. It can be a little boring though.

Is there value in trying 2ci or 2ce for someone who has already had alot of LSD trips?

When you guys say that 2ci is has stimulation to it but 2ce doesn't... are you talking similar to the stimulant effect of LSD? if 2ce lacks that, than I would be interested actually I love the speedyness of acid but its not always something I want.

I disagree with this, 2c-e definitely does have some pretty excessive stimulation. To be honest, I find the stimulation about the same for both. It's not very comfortable, either way.