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2CE - First Time - Rough Start, Smooth Finish

RG1

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This is my first time posting a trip report here, so please pardon my lack of experience. I don't usually post, but after trying 2C-E for the first time, I feel I should try to impress on people that they should start with a low dosage (even though many people have already said this). I am experienced with 2C-T-7, 2C-I, 4-AcO-DET, Methylone, 5-Meo-DIPT, Mushrooms, and ecstasy (and more). I find that I usually aim towards the low-high end for dosing (according to erowid's ranges) with 20 mg 2C-I and 33 mg 2C-T-7 being good typical doses. 16 mg was probably as high as I will ever go with 2C-E though. I guess certain people are just extra sensitive to certain chemicals.

Setting was a rented cabin in the upper peninsula of Michigan which we were visiting for vacation. I was alone with my fiancee (got engaged the day before), who is also an experienced tripper. I took 16 mg (carefully weighed) and she took 14 mg at 1:00 pm. I didn't take notes, so I'm just going on what I remember, but it was only a week ago.

I have heard most people say that there is little or no body load on 2C-E, but for me at 16 mg, the body load was quite bad. It started after about an hour, and continued for at least an hour and a half, during which I was so nauseated that I couldn't get off the couch. It wasn't a cramping like I get with 2C-T-7, it was more like flu symptoms and flu nausea. It was bad enough that I almost thought I wouldn't be able to handle it, but I reminded myself that it would go away eventually. I felt like I was going to throw up, but I couldn't do it. I definitely will not be increasing my dosage above 16 mg because the nausea would be too much. J did not seem to have any problems at all with body load at 14 mg, so maybe some people are affected worse than others.

The visuals were pretty intense once they started, but not as good as 2C-T-7. The entire ceiling of the cabin was made of wood panneling, all of which was breathing and morphing. I didn't feel very stimulated like with 2C-I, in fact at the 2 hour point I could hardly open my eyes. One disconcerting aspect was the EXTREME confusion and disorientation. Putting shoes on to go outside was quite a challenge, but I found it amusing that my shoes felt unsually small and tight, like they were the wrong size. The head space was very distinct, and unlike the confusion that I have had from high doses of mushrooms or 4-AcO-DET. I felt like my braing was made out of felt fabric, everything was fuzzy. At the time it seemed like toxic psychosis, which I have never felt on mushrooms. I still have a feeling that 2C-E may be neurotoxic at high doses, which is why I'm concerned when I hear about people eating 30 mgs or more. Another interesting aspect was that my sense of smell (which is normally very bad) was greatly increased. However, it seemed that it was bad smells that were amplified the most. J noticed the exact same thing. Music sounded simply amazing.

The outdoors were beautiful, but it was a little too cold out to stay out for long. Our cabin was right by a lake which was very pretty. We saw the fins of some kind of giant fish in the water which looked ugly and mutated. We watched ducks in the water for over an hour though, and I had a lot of fun thinking what it would be like to crawl into the duck's head. The sunlight on the water made the water look so silver that it could have been made out of metal, and the rolling waves created some nice visual effects.

After we got back from the lake, the owners of the cabin came over to do some work on the cabin next door. I was a litttle paranoid, and I never get paranoid on anything, but it wasn't too bad to handle. When we thought they had left we went for a walk outside, but found they had just gone around the corner. Talking to them was very unpleasant for me, and I kept thinking they could tell from my giant pupils that I was on something, so I couldn't look them in the face. J had a great time talking to them though, and would have stayed there all day but realized I was very uncomfortable.

All in all, 2C-E is an interesting and very very powerful drug. Please do not take more than 14-16 mgs your first time, no matter how hard headed you are. For some reason I think 2C-E is ultimately lacking, maybe every drug is lacking in some aspect, but it's hard to put my finger on exactly what was missing. For one thing I didn't feel very euphoric, which was one of the best things about 2C-T-7, you just feel there. You are fully tripping, but at the same time there's something very ordinary about it. Maybe that's why everyone says "It's not very fun, but I would do it again." I feel the same way.
 
I forgot to mention, it lasted quite a long time. I was done tripping at around 10:00 pm, but I could not sleep for several more hours. When I did finally fall asleep (4 am I think?) I kept waking up and had a pretty rough night. The next day I felt fine except very tired.
 
Sounds like you are on the sensitive side with this one, despite your non-sensitivity to most others.

I agree about the long-lasting effects, I can never get to sleep until 10 hours after 2C-E.

I also agree it can lead to paranoia, given the wrong setting, and the lack of euphoria is sometimes disappointing.

I don't usually experience the confusion you noted however. In fact, I find it much easier to concentrate and feel like I still have my intelligence on 2C-E than many other PEAs. Although, I am less sensitive to it and have not gone beyond 20mg, which did start to get a little heavy.

Thanks for the report! I'd love to be in a remote cabin in the UP for my next trip. I'll be tripping while camping in upper Wisconsin later this summer, so that should be good.
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All of the phenethylamines I've tried have had a sharp contrast between clear and utterly confused mindstates. I've had similar times on 2C-I that felt like a toxic psychosis.

After reading so many glowing, side-effect free 2C-E reports lately, this one reminds me why I was thinking of passing it by.

Hmm... :\

Thanks for sharing a captivating trip report as your first post on Bluelight. I hope there are more to follow :)
 
Very good trip report!
That's the first report I've read so far that comes close to my trip with 18mg 2C-E. That was a rough ride and there was definately the same confusion that you described. And it felt quite chemical from time to time.
But 2C-E still remains to be a very interesting compound for me...
 
Your report sounds like my first experience. I also noticed we feel the same about 2C-T-7 and 2C-E. 2C-E didn't have the euphoria that 2C-T-7 did. Now I've felt total bliss on 2C-E, but it doesn't lead in a positive direction like MDMA or 2C-T-7. Only difference is 2C-E didn't give me any bodyload or nausea. And I never felt confused. Very little strong stimulation in the begining, but it eased itself out after an hour or so. I took 16mg my first time thinking it would be a mellow +3, and I ended up getting my ass kicked pretty hard. And 20mg of 2C-E was twice as intense as 16mg. This is serious medicine and needs to be taken with real respect.
 
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First off, great trip report!

Your experience sounds a lot like what I experience every time I take 2C-E, especially the "flu" feeling... I call it the dreaded 4 hour flu, since it takes me almost 4 hours to get the trip really going...

I've since abandoned testing with this compound, there is just something about it that doesn't seem right...

Maybe phens just don't react well to my system, but then again, that would kind of eliminate amphetamines too, which I have no problems with!
 
Great report!

I really don't know what to think of 2C-E! There is definately something lacking, even when you take an intense dosage.

Does anyone else get that headspace feeling of.. it is very hard to explain, but it is like everything outside is much wider than usual, like theres more space or something.
 
really nice report :) reading this made me think about whether the risk you are taking by ingesting these relatively new chemicals is worth the experience gained. Drugs like lsd and mushrooms offer very profound experiences without profound healthrisks.

sorry to hear about the nausea, sick body feelings can be rough when tripping out. Did it go away as you began to get swallowed by the experience?
 
RG1 said:
This is my first time posting a trip report here, so please pardon my lack of experience. I don't usually post

We need to change this "not usually posting" deal, this is a fantastic report (see above testimony), and don't ever fret about "lack of experience", you're more than welcome in TR.

Top stuff :D
 
Great points about 2CE, I think I’m pretty sensitive to it just as you are.
If there’s one thing to take away from 2CE it’s the intensely personal nature of the experience. I wouldn’t take this stuff at a party if I was paid! The only times I’ve tripped successfully on it were home alone with a very open but calm mind (with some cannabis and a notepad handy). I have long comedowns too which are a bit annoying but easily killed with alprazolam.
I’ve also noticed that nitrous does not have much effect while 2CE’ing which is a bit unusual. I think it might be due to the fact that the 2CE peak and the nitrous peak are so similar I can’t tell the difference? Probably not but who knows..
 
"Does anyone else get that headspace feeling of.. it is very hard to explain, but it is like everything outside is much wider than usual, like theres more space or something."

Yes! I'm pretty sure we're on the same page - it's like there is so much more "depth" between me and everything else, small distances start to seem really big and spacey. Hard to explain...
 
I had quite the opposite reaction to 2C-E. My first trip was 20mg, the second was 25mg and both were perfectly fine with me. Come up was slightly bumpy on the stomach and a little tight in the muscles but nothing intense. Both times I was able to sleep after around 5 or 6 hours and while sleep was filled with lucid thoughts and dreams, was sound.

I have to say that 2C-E is thus far one of my favorite psychedelics. It's a very comfortable and entertaining trip for me. I got 2g of it for years of fun trips to come.
 
alostlittlebird said:
"Does anyone else get that headspace feeling of.. it is very hard to explain, but it is like everything outside is much wider than usual, like theres more space or something."

Yes! I'm pretty sure we're on the same page - it's like there is so much more "depth" between me and everything else, small distances start to seem really big and spacey. Hard to explain...

I've got the same exact feeling on about 17mg of 2C-I. This inside of my friend car was huge and it seemed like the world was so distant from me. I did about 5mg of 2C-E and didnt get that feeling, but btw this is a really nice dosage and can be handled very well in public without any negative effect for me.
 
I find myself unable to agree that 2C-E is "missing something" My first (and so far only) 2C-E experience with 12mg has been the most complete and enveloping trip of my life. There are certainly differences with other psychedelics such as LSD or mushrooms, and for that matter other phenethylamines, but I think once you realise this difference in "character" you'll have more fun with this compound. The confusion can be combatted by simply doing nothing! I can't imagine going for a walk at the peak of this compound (going to the supermarket a good 8h after ingesting was a completely bizarre experience.) I think to fully enjoy the 2C-E experience you must simply sit or lie around getting lost in the all-encompassing thought loops for hours at a time. Not a social drug by any means.
I also found 2C-E gave me a profound sense of euphoria or even bliss at the height of the experience. I found this better than MDMA, particularly because the other psychedelic effects seemed to bestow the bliss with more "higher" meaning, compared to MDMA which just feels like I am being shoved through a pipe at breakneck speed by my own neurochemistry.

I have to agree on the body load though. I didn't feel as much cramp etc as with, say, 2C-T-2, but for the first 1.5 hours or so I felt really very nauseated.
I'm sorry you didn't like this compound much, I'm certainly looking forward to the next opportunity I have to take it, and would like to combine it with nitrous. I have a feeling I would be completely divorced from any kind of consensus reality for quite some time.
 
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