2CE - 6mg+3mg rectally - Enjoyable enough, but may of been my last time.

[shypht]

Last weekend I tried 2CE with a 14mg oral dose, and all around I enjoyed it - and was curious to give it another go.

Initially, I measured out 15mg for an oral dose, but decided to go with rectal administration for its apparent faster come-up and less body load. So, I measured out one 6mg pile, and one 3mg pile and put the remainder of the 15mg away. At 10:40pm, I took the first 6mg.

After about 30 mins, I was feeling the onset of the 2CE, and decided to take the remaining 3mg and then waited for everything to kick in. I was planning on heading out to a club that night - and wanted an intensity similar, or possibly a bit stronger than my 1st trip as I found that to be a very manageable experience.

At around 12:00pm, everything started to really kick in - normally I'm very 'time-line' driven and "if i say I want to leave at 12, I mean I want to leave at 12", and my initial intent was to leave for the club at 12:00 or so, but decided to not be in a rush - as I wasnt sure of things were going to continue increasing or not. There was no real body-load to speak of, the visuals started to kick in, and I was feeling fairly stimulated.

Finally got around to leaving at about 12:30 or so - feeling good as it felt like the plateau had hit, and made my way towards the club. It was a bit more intense than the previous time - OEVs were really starting to pop, some great CEVs, and at this point - was feeling really easy on the body.

We arrived at the club, and the DJ we had come to see was just getting on (about an hour before he was supposed to), and proceeded to bang out an amazing set of hypnotic-voodoo-techno, Tony Rohr really does have his own style - and having seen him 3 or 4 times before, this was by far one of the best sets I've heard from him. Great builds, some hard beats, and just some really hypnotic-head-bending stuff.

The music sounded stellar on the 2CE, and was really fun to dance to - but I did have a feeling of "I wish I had just done LSD or Mushrooms instead" for some reason. I was able to talk with people at the club fairly easily - or as easily as I could with how loud it was in there. And, I didnt find that I had a hard time trying to function at all.

However, at around 3:00am or so - I started to notice some strange feelings in my head/face - now and then it'd feel like parts of my face would go numb, and it felt like I could feel things 'clogging' in my head - I had noticed a bit of this sensation on my first 2CE trip - but it was not that bad, and it did not bother me. This time though, the feeling was far more pronounced, and it started to bug me - it would feel like parts of my head would 'clog' - a bit of pressure would build, then get released - and the trip would momentarily increase in intensity. It started to feel like "I'm only tripping because I'm damaging my brain" - I'd feel random aches in my left arm / chest area, my hands would feel 'puffy' - while I'm use to some weird body sensations (and similar ones at times) while on LSD, there was something about these ones that just 'did not feel right'

This started to bother me, and I started to keep an eye on my watch to 'see how much longer I had to go', and at this point it started to feel like time was crawling - check watch, 3:30, feel like an hour went by, check watch again - 3:40. I was still trying to enjoy myself, but the random feelings of my head being 'clogged' was making it hard to look past some of the physical aspects of the trip and just enjoy myself.

At around 4:30 or so, I had felt pretty much 'down' from the 2CE - still some lingerng after-effects/after-glow type thing, but the primary trip felt over - and the uncomfortable body sensations gone with it. Me and my friend decided to head home, we popped down stairs to grab our coats from the coat check - and the music down there was actually pretty good (was another club, 2 clubs, one building), and we snuck in there and danced for another half hour or so and then walked home.

We got home close to 6:00am - I was STARVING, so munched down on some food and then went to bed. Woke up feeling not too bad - but had a pretty groggy day after, but that can be credited to dancing all night and staying up till 6am, drugs or no drugs.

While the trip was not a "bad trip", or too intense, or scary or anything - I enjoyed 90% of it, there is something about how 2CE feels in my head/body which has me thinking 'I think that may of been the last time'.

When doing the rectal admin - there is pretty much no nausea / stomach upset on the comeup, it was very clean and smooth - and for the few hours of the plateau - it really does feel great. Fantastic mindset, great visuals, nice body energy - during this part of the trip, I like it /very/ much. It just seems that during the 1-2 hours of the comedown, some rather strange body sensations start to manifest themselves.

They don't hurt, they dont make me feel sick or anything, and while there is nothing totally over-whelming about them - there is that feeling of "There just isnt something right about this"

There is something really special about the 'peak' of the trip -- its just that about, 1hr period of time following the peak where it starts to feel like something isnt quite right. Thankfully it does not last that long, but its still enough to make me consider not trying 2CE again in the future.

Maybe I'll try it again, maybe I wont - even as much as I enjoyed the peak of the trip, and I would not call it a bad trip at all, there was something going on during it that made me think "I dont want to do this again"

 

[Xorkoth]

Wow, rectal admin generally increases the strength of a dose by almost 2x... you're lucky it didn't seem to potentiate it up to the equivalent of a 30mg oral dose!

Rectal admin definitely does reduce or eliminate the coming up weirdness and especially the nausea, though. Great, huh?

EDIT: Oh, nevermind. You used 6 + 3 mg, not 15

 

[shypht]

I figured that 6mg would land me at around a ~12mg dose orally. At around t+30, I could feel the onset, but figured I'd bump things up with another ~3mg.

I actually did one more dose increase with 2mg later on, but around 12 - everything hit at once, so I ended up rinsing out - not sure if everything had been absorbed by that point or not, and if rinsing out did any good or not at actually keeping the effects at where they were at and not getting any more intense. The rinse-out was over an hour after my 1st dose, and about 10 mins after the 3rd and final.

It actually startled me when it first hit - not so much with the intensity, but just the jump from "Not really feeling anything" to "Wow, neon-colored snakes are now coiling over all of my walls" - so I figured I'd rinse out just to err on the side of caution. It still felt less intense than 2 hits of descent quality acid however. -- Close, but not quite. I could see how this could of been fairly intense for some people, but for me it just felt like the tip of the iceberg.

If I was to do 2CE again, I'd def stick with the rectal admin - not having the hour - hour and a half of feeling like I had the flu was really nice, and once things kicked in - it really was great.

It just seemed like as the come-down hit, unpleasant physical effects sort of popped up - and it today, I still feel some weirdness in my head in the same spots I felt them during the trip - kind of around my temples.

Like, on LSD - at times it feels as if I can feel the internal circuity of my brain and energy flowing along it --- on 2CE, I could feel a similar thing, but it would feel like it'd hit some points and sort of 'clog up' - then the clog would flow, and things would kick back in for a short period after, then taper off - I'd feel a 'clog' again, rinse and repeat.

From the period of around 12:00pm - 3:30am - it was great, 3:30am-4:30am-ish - the above physical feelings started to kick in, really changed my headset and put a bit of a bummer on the trip, at around 4:30am or so - most of those had cleared up, and was sort of in an 'afterglow' type state and started to enjoy myself again.

Spent most of my Sunday sleeping / napping / smoking weed. I had been up till ~5am on Friday night, out till 6am on Sat, and figured most of my tiredness was just a result of two very late nights in a row with restless sleep inbetween. Today, feeling fine - except for the little bits of pressure in my head that pop up and then go (Similar to how I felt during the come-down on the 2CE)