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Hey all!

i know there’s other sub groups here but I’m looking for specific views on 2CB from the experienced mdma users who’ve used it.

I’ve used mdma since about 1996 but most recently I’ve only taken it maybe twice in the last 8 years now. I gave it up as tolerance and comedowns were unbearable.

I’ve never used 2CB but I’ve used MDMA and MDA in large enough amounts that I’ve definitely experienced psychedelic and hallucinogenic effects. - not that I’ve ever taken anything like LSD or the “true” psychedelics as a reference but I’ve absolutely experienced tracers, strong close eyes visuals, and audiovisual “enhancements”

Ok so back to the point

given what I’ve said. How different and how familiar will a low dose 2CB experience be to me? The pills are 20mg so perhaps just half of one.

hope this cross post is acceptable as the view point is important to me.
 
I love 2CB.

Dosage is a big question mark though. A strong dose for one person will be a weak dose for another person, and small changes to dosage make a huge difference.

For me, 10 mg would be barely notable, but 15 mg will give me a light and empathetic experience with enhanced music and emotions, but barely any visuals. I think you will find the low dose experience pretty familiar and manageable.

There is a definite sweet spot with the dosage depending on what you are looking for. I have seen experienced MDMA/psychedelic users absolutely floored by too high of a dose. The phrase, "I think I've become a man" was uttered. LOL.

Start with a low dose, and if you like that dose, then the next time you use it, add an extra 5 mg and see how that is.

You can get a wicked tolerance to 2CB as well, so be careful. Take long breaks of a few months at least.
 
most 2cb pills are dosed under what they are sold at. I would just take one full pill and see if anything even happens. at 35 mg snorted it will send across the multiverse like any other psychedelic.

2cb is fucking amazing.

Once gave my friend a pill and she suddenly fell over when it peaked we had a joint she fully had some crazy depth effect and felt like she could not move and was 100 m away from me when i was standing next to her. She could only shuffle along the ground and not pick her feet up meanwhile the same pill did nothing to me as i took it 5 days earlier
 
MDA is very much a "true" psychedelic. Personally probably my favorite substance, but starting 2cb thinking you are going to get an mdma or mda kind of experience is probably setting things up for disappointment. I love 2cb myself, just somehow managed to land a gram of powder on the street which I never expected in a million years lol. That said 2cb is a great experience, and if mdma doesn't work for you, is certainly a nice substance to try. I would also pop a whole pill if you have not done so already lol, since most 2cb pills are not as potent as advertised and 2cb is generally considered relatively easy to handle.
 
I use to use a lot of mdma back in the day but also psychedelics so i was and still am use to both as i still psychedelics, mostly shrooms. But if its the real deal and really 20mg and with no to little use of psychedelics, it should feel like taking 1mg of shrooms for the first time.. just my opinion
 
20 mg should be fine for an 80 kg human; as everyone mentioned, pill doses lie. It's not a roll but it's fun. The low-mid range is nice.

High doses are psychedelic, but in my stupid opinion the 2C-halos on high aren't really good psychedelics; the body load is too much and the mindset is too scattered. Some people like it.
 
I've done a lot of 2c-b at all sorts of doses. And a lot of MDMA too. Also tried them together a couple times.

In the empathogenic department, 2C-B never really gets anywhere close to the fever pitch of MDMA/MDA, it can get intense emotionally but its fleeting & circumstantial, it really is a lot more similar to mushrooms/LSD than it is to MDxx in my opinion. I think if you pull a little or a lot of the head high out of mushrooms/LSD, maaaybe add some energy/stim, its not too different from 2c-b.

I actually think LSD/mushrooms could be as dancey/energetic as 2c-b if it weren't for the sheer head-high impeding that aspect. And sometimes 2c-b catches me off guard and actually feels like LSD or mushrooms at times, i've always taken the same 2c-b.

20mg should be good. Full experience at 30mg+. Awesome substance, very musical. I wouldn't say its too similar to MDxx, but if you like MDxx I think you'd also like 2c-b.
 
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2C-B is one of my favorite drugs ever, but it is not an MDMA substitute like many people make it out to be. Low-doses (15mg or less) are somewhat entactogenic but the effects are substantially different IMO. I've had 2C-B trips, especially combined with GHB, that rivaled MDMA's euphoria though.

2C-B is still a psychedelic so I would start low if you intend to go to a club, rave, etc. on it.
 
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think i have mentioned this before but her in S.A. we get what they call Disco Biscuits that normally are a combination of 200mg mdma and 20mg 2cb, but the word disco biscuits are always referred to quaaludes but the ones im talking about is not quaaludes. Anyhow the combinations gives or makes your rolling as you guys refer to it a lot more hallucinogenic. But 2cb on its own is not that great at the normal dose unless you not use to psychedelics.
 
The dosage can be quite difficult with 2cb. It is one of my favourite drugs just be careful dosing if you have the powder (shout out uncle pyscedeic) One time me and my friend over dosed ourselves, we tried to weigh out the powder but must of dosed 10x - I couldn’t see the real world through my eyes for 6+ hours, I had to guide myself up stairs by feeling the bannister & forgot who I was etc lol

Mdma & 2cb together is a great mix. I found 2cb alone very overwhelming the last time I took it in a club environment... the “orange domino” were v strong.

I love how it changes music... almost like this weird underwater sound once it kicks in, proper belly laughing stuff if your with a group of you.
 
2cb is great. For me its all the good parts of mda with none of the bad. Around 36mg it shines for me. Sometimes I'll take a 70mg booster when it's over.
 
indigoaura said:
I have seen experienced MDMA/psychedelic users absolutely floored by too high of a dose. The phrase, "I think I've become a man" was uttered. LOL.
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Yeah, but by a male or a female? These days you never know.

On topic: I'll echo what a lot of people have said, 2CB is very finicky when it comes to dosing. I've seen people not really get off until the 80-100mg range, which is just plain nuts, and people who were satisfied or even floored by 10-20mg. Also I've seen people take many hours to get high, like so many hours that the rest of the group was coming down.

The doses in PiHKaL tend to be on the low side, though. The Shulgins were sensitive to it and also clearly enjoyed it a lot, which made it famous and, I think, a little overrated. It's definitely enjoyable and unlike some of it's near cousins doesn't tend to have a lot of unpleasant body aspect.

It's worth a try, but don't expect the world. It has some mescaline like characteristics but it isn't as full bodied I'd say. It's not really very MDMA like at all in terms of "rolling" but I can see some vague commonality with MDA in the psychedelic aspect. It has a reputation for being light and friendly and can get heavier with higher doses, but generally I think tends to retain its friendliness.
 
SKL said:
Yeah, but by a male or a female? These days you never know.

On topic: I'll echo what a lot of people have said, 2CB is very finicky when it comes to dosing. I've seen people not really get off until the 80-100mg range, which is just plain nuts, and people who were satisfied or even floored by 10-20mg. Also I've seen people take many hours to get high, like so many hours that the rest of the group was coming down.

The doses in PiHKaL tend to be on the low side, though. The Shulgins were sensitive to it and also clearly enjoyed it a lot, which made it famous and, I think, a little overrated. It's definitely enjoyable and unlike some of it's near cousins doesn't tend to have a lot of unpleasant body aspect.

It's worth a try, but don't expect the world. It has some mescaline like characteristics but it isn't as full bodied I'd say. It's not really very MDMA like at all in terms of "rolling" but I can see some vague commonality with MDA in the psychedelic aspect. It has a reputation for being light and friendly and can get heavier with higher doses, but generally I think tends to retain its friendliness.
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By a man.
 
I love 2c-b. Combining it with mdma is even better. Have fun on your trip. The responses so far are more than good enough.

Mine was 200mg mdma and 20mg 2c-b. With the 2c-b taken before/at the comedown of mdma.
 
I'm no "OG" MDMA user, but I have used MDMA many times over the last few years. 2C-B by itself, in my opinion, is not really similar to MDMA. The only similarity I find is that there's empathogenic magical effect (although much , much less profound than MDMA). However, when I mix 2C-B with adderall and either alcohol or GHB , it produces an experience very similar to "rolling." This combo is great for raving , however it still isn't as good as MDMA. Definitely is the closest feeling to MDMA that I ever had though.
 
I think everything has been said already but I'll add a detail: I experience severe stomach discomfort, mostly cramps but sometimes also nausea, from 2C-B. I usually have a cast iron stomach so this is pretty rare for me, 2C-B is the only drug so far that does this to me, except for ayahuasca but everyone gets nausea with that one. I have a friend that experiences the same but all my other friends don't so it seems to be rather rare. This doesn't last for the entire trip though, usually during the comeup and the first hour of the trip and then it slowly dissipates. Might be an idea to have something against cramps and/or nausea on hand just in case, though do look at interactions beforehand. That said, even though it's annoying I enjoy 2C-B so much that I gladly accept those discomforts in exchange for the trip it gives me. It's a lot of fun, not in the deep and psychological way that LSD or mushrooms are but rather in a more "pure fun" kind of way, to me it's kind of a Disneyland drug (might be a bad analogy, I'm pretty high and can't think of a better one)

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I forgot DOC, that one gives me even more discomfort than 2C-B, so much so that I tried it twice and won't touch it again. I wrote a trip report on that here for those that are interested
 
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BlueBull said:
I think everything has been said already but I'll add a detail: I experience severe stomach discomfort, mostly cramps but sometimes also nausea, from 2C-B. I usually have a cast iron stomach so this is pretty rare for me, 2C-B is the only drug so far that does this to me, except for ayahuasca but everyone gets nausea with that one. I have a friend that experiences the same but all my other friends don't so it seems to be rather rare. This doesn't last for the entire trip though, usually during the comeup and the first hour of the trip and then it slowly dissipates. Might be an idea to have something against cramps and/or nausea on hand just in case, though do look at interactions beforehand. That said, even though it's annoying I enjoy 2C-B so much that I gladly accept those discomforts in exchange for the trip it gives me. It's a lot of fun, not in the deep and psychological way that LSD or mushrooms are but rather in a more "pure fun" kind of way, to me it's kind of the Disneyland experience of drugs (might be a bad analogy, I'm pretty high and can't think of a better one)
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Plugging may well negate this entirely.
 
AutoTripper said:
Plugging may well negate this entirely.
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Very likely but this is not something I'm willing to do just to negate the discomfort. It's manageable and it passes so I just wait it out. Might help someone else though, it's supposed to be a very "clean-feeling" ROA judging by the reports
 
BlueBull said:
Very likely but this is not something I'm willing to do just to negate the discomfort. It's manageable and it passes so I just wait it out. Might help someone else though, it's supposed to be a very "clean-feeling" ROA judging by the reports
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Yes I’ve been plugging my LSD lately and it’s remarkably different so much smoother and no nausea, respiratory mucus which I get with everything including lysergamides, and zero comeup tension, discomfort, anxiety and restlessness. It just bypasses all the unease of high dose LSD comeups. And really a lot stronger too. Longer peak.

I took 2.5 mg’s last week, oral 200 ug Tuesday, Plugged 600 Wednesday it hit me like no 600 ug LSD ever has before.

Plugged 1000 Thursday and 700 Friday. It made it too easy to take it. Although that’s pretty typical amounts for me orally, I feel the after effects a lot more. No desire for any more tripping for as long as I can resolve now after 13.8 mg’s Since February.
 
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