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(2cb/ ~30mg) - 2cb experience

Dimitry

Dimitry

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Hello, im Dimitry(not my real name).
male 160 lbs
Substance: 2C-B (4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine)
Dose: ~30mg (-+5mg) Milligrams / powder via nasal route.
Setting: Night club
Date: may 18

T0:00 weight the dose 30mg, scales are +-5mg, administered doese via nasal route.
T0:05 i feel the stimulation in my hands , they are shaky
T0:30 it has kicked in.
T1:00 I cant handle it, i want it to stop :) I feel like i oded.
T1:15 i start to black out momentarily, if feel like laying down, uncomfortable sitting.
T5:00 the visual distortion has stooped. The comedown were intense, believe due to lack of rest before administration and dose being too high.

Everything about this chemical is intense.



Positives: I was in a club, sitting at the bar as the chemical took effect. Felt overstimulated, my face muscles tensed up. Cant not and dont want to talk to anyone. I feel like im looking at everything with totally different perspective. As i hear Avicci, im actually orgasm sitting behind the bar.

Visuals distortions and euphoria can not be described, Euphoria on 2cb was twise(i exadurate) as good as methylone, mephedrone, mdpv, pure cocaine.

Avicci is playing, i feel the music in me. I ask my self "Where do you go from here? How much further can it go then this?"

Negatives: Nausea, body load (cant walk stumble like a drunk man.) anxiety, not sleeping for another 12-24 hours.



Should not be taken lightly, dangerous chemical if taken in high doses. Be very careful with it.

Will ad more info as i remember all details.
 
Felling manic right now and it has been more then 36 hours sense the dose intake. Dont know if this if mania or hppd.
 
Are you sure? Do you know what HPPD is? Did you know there was no such thing as "HPPD" until a decade ago? Nobody ever had it until the 'concept' was spread...now that people 'believe' HPPD exists....some people come to claim they have it...without actually knowing what is required for a diagnosis of HPPD. It is the same with with 'bad trips' and the concept that 'psychedelics will make you crazy and think you can fly.' This does not happen in psychedelic using cultures in Mexico, Andes, Amazon, etc...and didn't happen until the west until after LSD was outlawed.

Medically, there are three conditions which define HPPD:

1.. Subjects experience drug-like sensory disturbances while not under the influence of any drugs.
2.. The disturbances interfere with work, school, social settings, or other areas.
3.. There are no other physical or mental conditions that account for the disturbances (lesions, visual epilepsy, schizophrenia, dementia, etc.)
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http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/health/hppd/hppd_faq.shtml
 
Are you sure that this was even 2C-B at all? The symptoms you describe sound much more like a did associative anaesthetic or something other than a PEA. Were there any visuals? Do you have confidence in your source?

EDIT: I forgot to ask also were you on any other substances at the time? I assume there was at least some alcohol involved, as the setting was a nightclub, so how much did you have to drink that night? A beer or two at max is nice while tripping on 2C-B if it's nighttime and its a social situation, but psychedelics and alcohol don't really mix that well, especially high doses of either the alcohol or the psychedelic, and hard liquor is also especially not-good.
 
and didn't happen until the west until after LSD was outlawed.
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So MK ultra never gave anyone a bad trip? Hoffman never had a bummer? All the bad trips in the world are not the result of negative media exposure and expectations.
 
I don't believe Albert Hoffman considered his first intentional LSD trip a 'bummer' in fact it inspired a lifetime of psychedelic research. MK Ultra wasn't public news until 1975...and regardless the circumstances surrounding anyone 'tripping' under the MK ultra program would not be an appropriate example of psychedelic use in any context unless you are taking about people being given psychedelics by the military in mind control experiments.
 
Do you understand what happened during MK Ultra? Among other things, that brothels were set up and the 'customers' were dosed on LSD, then questioned by CIA, and (at times) told their 'trip' would not end until answers were given. Ok, sure...under those circumstances a 'bad trip' can occur. To even suggest that a trip under those circumstances has ANYTHING relevant to a psychedelic trip taken for 'mind expansion' for Shamanism, or one taken by young adults to 'trip balls' tells me we are not talking about the same thing.
 
MGS: To say HPPD does not exist is silly - coming from someone with HPPD. Can you explain to me why else I see fractal persian rug type patterns and visuals and tracers near 24/7?
 
I never said it doesn't exist now, I said.......

Did you know there was no such thing as "HPPD" until a decade ago? Nobody ever had it until the 'concept' was spread...now that people 'believe' HPPD exists....some people come to claim they have it.
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Same reason people thought they were hexed and now they have 'bipolar' or other mental illnesses. Regardless, in order to have "HPPD" and I again will re-quote myself since you don't retain the information you read.....

Medically, there are three conditions which define HPPD:

1.. Subjects experience drug-like sensory disturbances while not under the influence of any drugs.
2.. The disturbances interfere with work, school, social settings, or other areas.
3.. There are no other physical or mental conditions that account for the disturbances (lesions, visual epilepsy, schizophrenia, dementia, etc.)
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A medical diagnosis for HPPD REQUIRES all three of the above. Now if your Iranian throw rug visuals and tracers are so extreme that they prevent you from performing in work, school, social setting, etc, etc in the same way before you had these 'Persian carpet visuals' than you could probably talk some doctor into giving you a diagnosis of "HPPD."

If not, you might consider some other 4 letter work diagnosis. I always like to remind people that the DSM used to consider homosexuality a 'mental illness.'
 
i was still feeling hallucinogenic effects 48 hours later , i guess it was hppd, idk.
 
Medically, there are three conditions which define HPPD:

1.. Subjects experience drug-like sensory disturbances while not under the influence of any drugs.
2.. The disturbances interfere with work, school, social settings, or other areas.
3.. There are no other physical or mental conditions that account for the disturbances (lesions, visual epilepsy, schizophrenia, dementia, etc.)

What is it about "HPPD" that folks won't read my posts. You cannot have it unless you meet the above criteria...this is the third time I've posted that in this thread...come on folks read! :)
 
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