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2C-T-4 - first time - my tool kept getting the most amazing hard ons

Markalon

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2C-T-4 report

The buddy and I took 20 mgs. Took about 2 hours to start feeling effect.
The effect was a burning pain in the stomach, mild visuals. Felt better after vomiting and laying down. Felt really horny and my tool kept getting the most amazing hard ons, and oddly it seemed to be bigger!
As time went by the burning stomach returned. I drank 1/2 gallon of water to make it hurt less. This of course made me pee a lot. Which felt great doing. Kinda like all my tension was pissed out.
No mental or emotional effect. No CEV, very little OEV. Just stomach trouble and the dick thing. Mostly a waste of time. Kept me awake for 8 hours. My buddy said he fell asleep like normal, with very little effect.
Maybe in the right combo's with other things it might be interesting for enhancing sex.

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yeah... i think i'll stay away from that too. What IS 2c-t-r

Is there a street name for it or is it always called that?
 
2C-T-4 is an abbrevation of it's chemical name; 2,5-dimethoxy-4-(i)-propylthiophenetylamine.. It does NOT have a "street name" and I'm hoping it will never gain enough popularity for this to happen, it only brings confusion to what you're actually taking.

And don't be so quick to write off a substance after reading one report, a lousy one at that (more detail!).. 2C-T-4 IMO is a very interesting chemical, I'm just sad I was a bit too late in ordering it.
 
Sorry about not having more detail, there just wasn't much to report. I have given some away and so far nobody liked it. Not everybody had my level of discomfort but none found it useful.
What exactly do people want to hear in a report?
I had hoped to help people save themselves money and keep them from suffering pain. Too many other interesting and pleasant things to try. I wish I had found more reports before I bought it.
If you really want to find it BlowMonkey, it's out there.
 
I personaly liked my 15mg experience. It wasn't quite remarkable as many other that family substances, but worth to try and I use it again in future. Next time bit more like 20mg. And one of my friend, who also took this, said it was interesting but very different experience from other 2C's.
 
I'm interested to know that as well. My wife and I ALWAYS try sex with psychedelics, even if she isn't dosing. If this is a lightweight but erotic experience, this sounds like another one my wife would like. I have a gram of it sitting in the stash, but haven't had a chance to play with it yet. I'm always up for a new erotic plaything, though!

Psychodonovan said:
Does everyone seem to get the arousal thing with this stuff?
 
So far I have given some to 6 different people. They either say they didn't feel much or skirted the issue. It kinda makes me wonder if they are embarrased by the effects or something. So far none have mentioned the stomach troubles I had.
 
Markalon said:
Sorry about not having more detail, there just wasn't much to report. I have given some away and so far nobody liked it. Not everybody had my level of discomfort but none found it useful.
What exactly do people want to hear in a report?

Ahem..ahem.. what a fine way to admit you haven't read the Forum Guidelines , which everyone is supposed to read BEFORE POSTING! ;)

However, to help you out, the TR guidelines have a basic format in them for all users to help them nut out a shape for their own report. It goes a little like this :

Writing a trip report

Trip reports can describe a single experience or be a retrospective summary that combines multiple experiences. Before posting a trip report, make sure you want the description of your experience to be made public. You have a lot of discretion in how you wish to write your trip report. The only mandatory elements are that your trip report must (1) have a descriptive title (see below) and (2) contain sufficient detail to provide the reader with a clear impression of the experience.

Feel free to write your story as a simple narrative and use whatever writing style is comfortable to you. It is understandable if you cannot remember all the details of your experience but try to provide as much information as possible. It is a good idea to write your report in a word processor and copy it into a new thread when you are ready to post. To make your report easier to read, use multiple paragraphs and include a separation line between paragraphs.

To help people create thorough yet interesting reports, here is a format guide that might be particularly helpful to those who are inexperienced with writing trip reports. There is absolutely no obligation to include all of these elements. Do not try to address each possible item one point at a time. Except for the title, this format is only meant to provide a little guidance while still leaving a lot of flexibility in what the writer wants to include or exclude.

Format guide

1. Title <--- mandatory
Format: Substance - Experience Level - Short Title

Substance: List of main substance(s) you used

Experience: Your level of experience with the substance(s)

Short title: Make the title as descriptive as possible

2. Description of drug(s): Try to describe the dosage (if known), appearance (shape, color, powder, markings, size, design/logo), purity (if known) and the route of administration (oral, smoked, snorted, IV, IM, plugged) as accurately as possible.

3. Background information: When did this experience take place? How is your general health and are you taking any medications or vitamin supplements? Had you prepared for this experience in any way (fasting, preloading, meditation)? What was your state of mind (tired, relaxed, happy)? What was your intent or purpose for the experience?

4. The experience: It can be very hard to describe an experience but one approach is to arrange things in roughly a chronological order. Some people separate events into paragraphs marked with times while others incorporate the passage of time into their story. If you were taking additional drugs, try to describe how far apart you took them from the original dose. The passage of time can be explained with three basic categories: when the drug is still taking effect (come up), when the experience is fully underway (peaking) and when the experience is coming to an end (comedown). As you consider each block of time, you can try to relate what you felt and what was happening around you:

Setting (the environment): Where were you? Were you in familiar surroundings? Was there music playing?

Setting (people present): Who else was with you? How well did you know them? How did you interact with them?

Effects (physical): How were your physical senses affected? How was your energy level or physical coordination affected? Did you feel energetic, thirsty or nauseous?

Effects (mental): What effect did the drugs have on your mind and emotions? What was your mood? What did you think about and did you have any insights?

5. Conclusions: After you have described your experience, it helps to finish with a few concluding remarks that put everything in perspective. Would you try it again or do you regret the experience? How did this experience compare to earlier experiences or other drugs? You can discuss how you felt during the next few days (afterglow, hangover, insomnia) or what you learned from this experience. You can also mention what made this experience memorable or how if effected you. Since other people will be reading your report, it would always be good to provide warnings or suggestions to anyone who might be considering trying the same drug(s).

The question you should have asked was not "what do people want to hear", it should have been "what do people NOT want to hear in a report?" =D The more the better, but if reports are short and hardly detailed, they recieve my Close Button Of Doom....
 
bluedolphin said:
Cool, sounds like a bust. Thanks for sharing anyway :)

Personally, I have high hopes for 2ct4. I haven't gotten around to working with it yet but there are very few trip reports on it and not much docuemented about it. I am very interested in this chemical and the fact that there's little info on it, makes it even more intrigiung.

Everyone reacts to substances differently. I have yet (hopfully not cursing myself) had any bad side-effects from research chems (nausea, vomitting, cramping, etc) and seem to tolerate them very well. Even high-dose 2ct2 with no noticeable side-effects. So I'm interested in trying this one. Even the few reports listed in PIKHAL for this chemical are pretty contradictory. Some people seemd to like it while others wouldn't bother with it again. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... ;)
 
georgiapoppy said:
Personally, I have high hopes for 2ct4. I haven't gotten around to working with it yet but there are very few trip reports on it and not much docuemented about it. I am very interested in this chemical and the fact that there's little info on it, makes it even more intrigiung.
People interested in psychedelics should try this chemical. It has much different character than other that family substances(2C-T-2). It isn't quite as visual as 2C-t-2 or 2C-X substances. But it's mental component is from other tree. Most notable property is dissociating effect.

From reading Pihkal, highest dose was 22mg. The person suggested that next time he use little less(18mg). But I think Shulgin didn't do much research on this substance as needed. When we look other 2c-t-x class substances(2C-t-2,2c-t7), then we will see that their dosage is above 30mg. I think same applies to 2C-T-4. From Shulgin comments, it seems that 2C-T-4 dosage is very erratic. So dosage should be increased in small amounts.

I personally try 20mg next time and if that doesn't take me as far as I want to go, then 25mg is my next dosage. I don't know when I decide to experiment with it again, but I definitely will.
 
Thanks for telling me what is needed in a report. I'll disagree with one major point. A lack of effect would cause a lack of detail, therefore the post would be short. Being short worded would say a lot for this particular RC. I could go on and on about enviorment and people I was with, I could also do so about consuming H2O. But I felt needed information from my experience was here.

Other people have mentioned to me that 2C-T-4 may be more active if snorted.
 
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