2C-P vs. DOx

[fractal fountain]

I once heard someone say that 2C-P is 'better' than any and all of the DOx compounds.

I am curious what the fine people of BL have to say in comparing them. It is clear that they certainly share qualities in terms of visual intensity and trip length, but what other things make 2C-P better than DOx or a particular DOx better than other DOx and 2C-P?

 

[mi5]

I love DOC, I've not tried the other DOx but DOC is in my top 5.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=8979441
2C-P is my favorite device for a nice long happy trip. Had around around 10 goes on it now, all enjoyable. Everyone is different though so don't take my experience as definitive.

Get options of others who have done both


And please disregard any morons who have not done it and just that refer to the PiHKAL entry.

 

[abrad84]

2c-p is less recreational than any of the other 2c-x's and DOC (I have not had the pleasure of trying any other DOx's). It is a very long trip which can go either way ime. Potent too, not to be be trifled with. I've seen several seasoned travellers get caught off guard with this one.

I wouldn't say it's better than DOC, just different. "Better" is a poor word when comparing psychedelics imo. Moreso when comparing one compound against a whole other class of compounds.

 

[pharmakos]

i do enjoy 2C-P more than DOC or DOI. might be because of the shorter duration, i'm not really sure why i prefer the one over the other. i just know that i feel better with 2C-P in me than i feel with DOC or DOI.

2C-P was more serious than either of the DOxs that i've tried however. but serious in a good way for me.

 

[clubberdude]

2C-P is a wonderful compound - easily one of my favourite chemicals.

I find it smooth but quite intense. The body load is actually pretty nice with this one - warm and fuzzy. The headspace almost feels meditative and relaxed on 2C-P. It is quite a contrast to 2C-I which is not even comparable to 2C-P.

I've only done 2C-P a few times, with the strongest trip being at around 6-8 mg insuffliated (though this was over 3-4 lots), and is very nice at this level, though would like to take it further, as I feel very comfortable with this compound.

I'd love to try the DOx's, particularly DOM and DOC, but am unsure when i'll get the opportunity as they are remarkably rare in the UK.

Some people seem to almost fear 2C-P - maybe its because of the PIHKAL comments, I don't know, but every time I've used it, its been very positive for me.

An additional benefit is that 2C-P not only has no comedown, but actually enhances my mood for a few days after. (Sorry, I just love every thing about 2C-P).

 

[TestOfSanity]

2c-p is less recreational than any of the other 2c-x's and DOC .

I disagree with this. In my experience 2ce was much less recreational to me. It gives me an hour or 2 of intense nausea. There was no nausea with 2cp, no discomfort to me at all. It really is exactly what I was looking for in a psych, I also feel great for days following the trip. I haven't tried any dox chems yet, wouldn't mind trying doc. One time a few of my friends were dosing doi, and I passed and took some 2ci. I definitely enjoyed my trip more than they did.

 

[any major dude]

2c-p is less recreational than any of the other 2c-x's and DOC (I have not had the pleasure of trying any other DOx's). It is a very long trip which can go either way ime. Potent too, not to be be trifled with. I've seen several seasoned travellers get caught off guard with this one.

I've found 2c-p to be very gentle, & have several friends who agree, but i'm sure its a YMMV thing. though my 2c-p trips have been a lot more recreational than most of my 2c-e trips. again though YMMV

I wouldn't say it's better than DOC, just different. "Better" is a poor word when comparing psychedelics imo. Moreso when comparing one compound against a whole other class of compounds.

totally agree here. I've said similar variations to people (in person, not so much on BL) quite a lot when asked about my preferences. Usually starts out with "Well that depends on what i'm wanting to do"

In regards to the OP, I've got limited experience with DOC (1 trip, 1 slightly above threshold dose) and DOI (3 or 4 trips), and a fair amount of experience with 2c-p (about half a dozen trips). DOI was probably my least favorite, though still enjoyable. Really enjoyed my first legitimate DOC trip, and have enjoyed all but one of my 2c-p trips. I've yet to trip on DOC with others, and i will say that 2c-p with others did lead to a fair amount of conversational weirdness. And i do feel overall 2c-p was more confusing than DOC or DOI, but sometimes those loopy thoughts are fun, other times they can be obnoxious or in rare cases, severely unpleasant. But that's the case for most psychedelics IME. Ultimately i think the only way to know for sure is to try them yourself. Dunno if that helps, but there you go...