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2c-P lossing virginity dose

Desert-Mirage

Desert-Mirage

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what is a good "safe" amount to try for my first experience? answer from yalls personal experiences. I have no idea what to expect:\
 
I'd like to add that I'd advise staying in that listed "common" range for your first time. Very steep dose response curve here.
 
If you are well experienced with psychedelics (2ce or 2ct7 in particular), I think 15-16 mgs is a reasonable first dose, I think the 'standard' doses on this one are really low. I found 15 mgs to be pretty boring personally and I've mixed 12 mgs 2cp with 15 mgs 2ci with no sense of being overwhelmed in the slightest, while 20 mgs of 2ci on it's own is enough for me. If you are somewhat unexperienced with psychedelics then you may want to follow the standard dosage information.
 
well if you can get a solid trip off 10-14 mgs that's pretty sweet, based on my experience I don't think 15 mgs is unreasonable to a seasoned tripper, don't really see a reason to start any lower due to the duration and lack of intriguing effects at lower doses. I've talked to a few people who have taken 25 mgs and still been unimpressed and not reported any serious negative physical effects. Certainly take into consideration individual response but I think the isolated 'overdose' incident at 16 mgs in pikhal has caused some unwarranted fear about dosage with this chem.

Its not my personal favorite 2cx op as you can probably tell but I have heard positive reports regarding this chem and the effects I did enjoy were experienced on my higher doses with it.
 
guerillabedlam said:
well if you can get a solid trip off 10-14 mgs that's pretty sweet, based on my experience I don't think 15 mgs is unreasonable to a seasoned tripper, don't really see a reason to start any lower due to the duration and lack of intriguing effects at lower doses. I've talked to a few people who have taken 25 mgs and still been unimpressed and not reported any serious negative physical effects. Certainly take into consideration individual response but I think the isolated 'overdose' incident at 16 mgs in pikhal has caused some unwarranted fear about dosage with this chem.
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Please do not take this personal or get offended, but why people are always so inclined to regard themselves as the 'gold standard' is truly beyond me. A good colleague of me is also prone to this kind of reasoning. If first-timers ask him for advice, he will always mention his own experiences and come up with a ridiculous high dosage (like 18-20 mg 2C-I or 16 mg 2C-E for an unexperienced user). Why is it so hard to disregard your own experience when asked for advice, and just stick to the general consensus on appropriate dosage? When giving advice, the order in which you mention dosages should be the general accepted safe dosage before your own experiences on a possibly much higher dose. Especially in light of the harm reduction mission of this forum as a whole, the above kind of advice is severly counter-productive. I have no idea about the purity of your 2C-P and your personal sensitivity for this compound, but I would never advice anyone to take 15 mg of my own batch of 2C-P.

As for a response to the OP: 6-8 mg is a good starting point, where I would personally advice you to use a liquid dosing approach, or cutting your 2C-P in a 1:4 ratio before weighing. (Unless, of course, you are one of those lucky few with access to a 0.1 mg resolution analytical scale)
 
Having tried 2cp, I wouldn't take more than 6-8mg as an initial dose, or you could be in for a terrible time! Its essential to see how your body reacts to this chemical before you use a relatively high dose.

Sitting on 2cc, 2ci and 2ce its unlikely I'll ever take my stock of P again. Who wants to be sick to their stomach for 12 hours?
 
6.5 mg was a light dose for me. The experience was very 2C-I-alike and I would compare it to 14-16 mg of 2C-I.

If you have no experience with other psychedelics, I would recommend 6-7 mg for the first time. Otherwise take 8-9 mg. Doing more than 10 mg isn't good idea, and isn't safe, no matter how experienced you are.
 
2C-P would be my last choice for losing psychedelic virginity. Can't you get some acid, or shrooms, or another phenethylamine?

2C-P has got a worse record than any other phenethylamine i'm aware of (except possibly 2C-T-7*). Very long, slow comeup, lasts too long, and i've seen a disproportionate number of profoundly negative responses.

I took it once, and I wasn't very impressed with it - and it's by no means a beginners psychedelic...

*2C-T-7 has a history of causing dangerous reactions when taken with serotonin releasers.
 
If your going to take 2C-P and your giving away the weekend thanks to it's duration you may as well do it right, I'd go for 10mg!
 
6-8mg seems like a very good place to start. Don't take this chemical for granted, 8mg was WAY more then I expected.

2C-P does seem to have a reputation among psychedelic phenethylamines for having more probability for negative effects. Start low, you don't build tolerance with 2C's near as fast as with many other psychedelics so you may as well work your way up cautiously.
 
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Please do not take this personal or get offended, but why people are always so inclined to regard themselves as the 'gold standard' is truly beyond me. A good colleague of me is also prone to this kind of reasoning. If first-timers ask him for advice, he will always mention his own experiences and come up with a ridiculous high dosage (like 18-20 mg 2C-I or 16 mg 2C-E for an unexperienced user). Why is it so hard to disregard your own experience when asked for advice, and just stick to the general consensus on appropriate dosage? When giving advice, the order in which you mention dosages should be the general accepted safe dosage before your own experiences on a possibly much higher dose. Especially in light of the harm reduction mission of this forum as a whole, the above kind of advice is severly counter-productive. I have no idea about the purity of your 2C-P and your personal sensitivity for this compound, but I would never advice anyone to take 15 mg of my own batch of 2C-P.

As for a response to the OP: 6-8 mg is a good starting point, where I would personally advice you to use a liquid dosing approach, or cutting your 2C-P in a 1:4 ratio before weighing. (Unless, of course, you are one of those lucky few with access to a 0.1 mg resolution analytical scale)
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Nah fuck your shit, I even mentioned other people's experiences as well which I based my recommended dosages on, and even said if the op is inexperienced with psychedelics they should follow the 'standard' dose range.

So yah i'm getting offended because you didn't even read my posts to realize I don't base my reccommended dosage solely on personal experience. I'm not trying to be all difficult and reccommend high doses just for the sake of it, I also don't feel I have to be all sheepish either and go along with the reccommended erowid or pikhal doses. The op is free to take into account all the information provided and decide for themselves, kind of the point of making a thread.
 
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^ But can you please post a few links to the positive reports on 14+ mg of 2C-P? And who are those people who have taken up to 25 mg doses with still no effects?

I would like to see these reports, maybe I'll change my opinion about 2C-P.
 
guerillabedlam said:
Nah fuck your shit, I even mentioned other people's experiences as well which I based my recommended dosages on, and even said if the op is inexperienced with psychedelics they should follow the 'standard' dose range.

So yah i'm getting offended because you didn't even read my posts to realize I don't base my reccommended dosage solely on personal experience. I'm not trying to be all difficult and reccommend high doses just for the sake of it, I also don't feel I have to be all sheepish either and go along with the reccommended erowid or pikhal doses. The op is free to take into account all the information provided and decide for themselves, kind of the point of making a thread.
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Blahblahblah. I read (past tense) your whole post the first time. No matter what you say, the general tone still remains 'My experience doesn't match the recommended dosage, so screw that shit and just take twice as much'. You take absolutely no responsibility for the possible outcome if someone that would have had a nice trip on 7 mg went ahead and took 15 mg based on your advice. Ever stopped to think how that might fuck someone up? And don't start off that it is still their own responsibility to make a choice based on your advice; you are the one that should take your head out of your ass before giving potentially dangerous advice.

Ever stopped to wonder what would be more likely: Everybody starting off with 6-8 mg, getting crappy results, but keeping the 'myth' alive by still advising others to start off with 6-8 mg? Or would it be more likely that sometimes people with a lower sensitivity, or perhaps some tolerance from regular psychedelic use, experience mediocre effects with 6-8 mg and should start off with a bit more? Not to mention the possibility the 2C-P in your area might have been cut, or might not have been 2C-P at all. It is not uncommon for 2C-P to be cut, there have even been vendors selling cut 2C-P as 2C-E, 2C-T-7 and sometimes even as 2C-I. Perhaps you had it lab-tested and confirmed purity, perhaps you did not have a tolerance from past psychedelic use. But to me, those possibilities are far more likely than the chance someone will have a nice first trip on 15 mg of 2C-P.
 
^ Look dude just because erowid lists a common dosage of shrooms at 1-2.5 grams doesn't necessarily make it the only safe doses to start at. Thousands of people take a full eighth (3.5 grams) and live to tell the tale and in fact enjoy it. Plenty of people take 2 ecstasy pills (~160-200 mgs) their first time which lands them in the strong-heavy spectrum on erowid and have the time of their lives. I do not think 2cp should be used recreationally initially, but I am confident that my reccommended dosage is not a significant risk. Much like ecstasy The lingering negative physical effects I've felt on 2cp, I have felt on all dose levels, so I feel dosing higher makes it feel a little more worth it. I got my 2cp from a reputable vendor and I had prior experience with 2cb, 2ci, 2ce, 2ct2, and 2ct7. I tend to be fairly sensitive to 2cx compounds besides the two 2ctx's and I took the 2cp everytime without tolerance.

@allium: I will supply some links/exercpts tomorrow when I get a chance.
 
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guerillabedlam said:
^ Look dude just because erowid lists a common dosage of shrooms at 1-2.5 grams doesn't necessarily make it the only safe doses to start at. Thousands of people take a full eighth (3.5 grams) and live to tell the tale and in fact enjoy it. Plenty of people take 2 ecstasy pills (~160-200 mgs) their first time which lands them in the strong-heavy spectrum on erowid and have the time of their lives. I do not think 2cp should be used recreationally initially, but I am confident that my reccommended dosage is not a significant risk. Much like ecstasy The lingering negative physical effects I've felt on 2cp, I have felt on all dose levels, so I feel dosing higher makes it feel a little more worth it. I got my 2cp from a reputable vendor and I had prior experience with 2cb, 2ci, 2ce, 2ct2, and 2ct7. I tend to be fairly sensitive to 2cx compounds besides the two 2ctx's and I took the 2cp everytime without tolerance.

@allium: I will supply some links/exercpts tomorrow when I get a chance.
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You're right plenty of people take high doses the first time and have fun! Yet some people would take a high dose out of innocence just because the first reply or first reply they bought into said to do it and will cause them to have a very bad trip. I don't know if you're biased into recommending people high doses because you have had great times and never a bad trip, or so many bad trips you are just fucked up and wish the pain of them onto others as well. Bad trips can permanently change you/your life and could ultimately lead to an early suicide. Realize this and don't joke around unless you want to know you gave the person that possibility, but are not at fault.
 
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