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2C-P - First Time - "Warning/Suggestions" if you plan to use 2C-P

dont know what changed my mind, it did not work at 5mg oral before. maybe it is set or setting but I will know more later.
 
well i am now still going along strong on 2c-p. i dosed 12 mgs. at 6 o'clock. its great. ill hav a trip report sometime tomorrow(saturday).
 
On the come up people seem to report either sedation, or stimulation, euphoria..etc. To me this felt like a good amount of dopamine release, but not NE release (well, i have an amphetamine tolerance from "ad/hd medication" so stims seem to effect me differently), no jitters, more of a very calm feeling, sorta like comparing oral methamphetamine to d/dl amphetamine, feels more 'calm' from the extra DA released (i'm assuming). Maybe I got more of the DA feeling but made me sedated cause of the amph. tolerance thing so thats why I ended up taking a dexedrine in my report.

Also has anyone noticed a good 'pain killing' effect like i did? With the euphoria comes this 'numbing' effect, pinch yourself and you barely feel it/no backache/etc.

Haven't taken any since those first few trys, although I let a friend try about 7-8mg and he got "nothing"! Wierd..
 
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Hmmmm... phenethylamines potentiate phenethylamines, don't they?

If so, I could see why your experience was so different from most other's experiences. It could be that this 2C-P shit has a fucked up tolerance... which would explain the 16mg "overdose" in PiHKAL. Its not like Shulgin to give that large a dose to someone their first time taking it. Could very well be a tolerance factor.
 
Well I went back and found this old report of mine..

I've since tried 2c-p a few times after this, always higher doses, i don't think i ever took more than 6-7-8mg though.

Whats wierd though, none of those experiences were even CLOSE to this first experience!

Actually, i'd really like to take a high dose of 2C-P, more like... 12mg-13mg.

I took i believe 6mg when i went to Hash Bash (in Ann Arbor, Michigan) and it was pleasant (also mixed it with harmaline/oral dmt) but nothing like this first trip..real strange.. hell, i know for sure i took amphetamine before i headed off to hash bash after taking the 2c-p.

I've heard of people taking 12-14-16mg for an intense trip, i definitely want to have an intense trip again on this, but as to why it would require ... 12x the dose, i dunno, the universe can be wierd like that ;).
 
i can confirm.. 1mg is active.. 4mg is fairly ok.. i experainced very high body load at 4mg and didn't want to go any more... i have never pissed so much water in my life... i pee'd for about 5 minutes non stop, it was MAJORly de-hydrating.. and weird green piss...

it isn't the most plesant one.. 2ce any day :)
 
Amphetamines have MAOI activity if I'm not mistaken, so it would make perfect sense that they would potentiate the effects of PEA's.

These warnings/suggestions only apply to the 2C-P+dexamp combo.
 
Of all the 2cs IMO this is the best one and most potent altho i must argue that it is not active @1mg. I've taken 20mg b4 however there was a period of time I could not see anything infront of me except visuals. It was the most euphoric of all the 2cs aswell, Never got a bodyload tho or any physacle negatives at all. I would not suggest sniffing it as it burns far far worse that any of the other 2cs i've sniffed(2ce,2ct2,2ct7,2cd)! 10mg is just right for a full on trip, i think bodyload is worse when tripping lightly on psychs that harder trips cuz it's like yer either fully fully emersed or not and the sort of trippyness is tougher for yer body to get used to, this is just a very unsubstantiated theory of mine.
 
Oooooh, have you chosen a dose yet?

And yeah, I kind of agree with toxide, the OP's claim of 1mg (unmeasured) means nothing ... although it may be active at that dose, it's unlikely that's the amount ingested. I'd go with reports from Shulgin or other reports. Toxide's suggestion of 10 mg is probably a good dose, except I'm guessing that tolerance may be an issue with you, Xorkoth.

I'm interested to hear how it goes because I'd like to try this one sometime over the summer.
 
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The big thing is the addition of amphetamine to the mix - I don't know why everybody seems so disbelieving that 1mg could be active combined with amphetamine. In the past, after unseccessful hunts for liberty caps, I've taken say half a dozen liberty caps and supplimented it with some amphetamine and had a fairly strong experience, whereas my usual dose of liberty caps was around the 30-50 mark (years since I've had mushrooms as they cause too many side effects like gut distress & anxiety for me these days).

I've also experienced LSD & amphetamine (1 average blotter & a couple of lines of speed) that was very intense during the come up phase. Amphetamine doesn't increase the effects of all psychedelics to that degree, but they're all subject to differing routes of metabolism, enzyme inhibition etc.; it does however increase the effects to some degree.

My experience of 5mg without any other additional drugs until late into the experience (cannabis at around the 12 hr mark) gives me no doubt that 1mg with a reasonable dose of amphetamine could well produce a fairly strong intoxication.

Everybody should start with a trial dose of say 2-3mg with this compound before leaping in with higher doses (actually everybody should make a first dose of any drug 1/10th to 1/20th the reported active dose to check for idiosyncratic responses)
 
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Amphetamine is the key.
I have dosed meth, adderall, and dextrostat all in different dosage combos with LSD, mushrooms, and MDA. Also, probably once 5-MeO-AMT. It totally enhances the experience to a hard-to-handle point. Dexamp is the best potentiator for any of them, but not the most intense, obviously. I don't know if I recommend it or not. Hard heads, sure. But more people, I think they would freak the fuck out.
 
Even with a decent tolerance 10mg will get you tripping quite hard, there was a period when I was using 2C-P probably 2-3 times a month (and other PEAs) and I still never took it above 12mg. There was some serious overheating coming onto 12mg
 
Dondante: I'm probably going to do 8mg. I will be taking a several week break beforehand, so tolerance may be down. But not gone, I'm afraid.
 
Well that makes alot of sense cuz i recall many times when I would try to take E with one of the many RCs to add a more euphoric element and it all that would end up happening is it would duble or triple the fx. Do u think it's due to mao or does the amp molecule interact with 5ht receptors in someway, sort of like 2cp+amp team up for the assault.
 
Wait here, F&B are you saying that AMphetamines cause Allosteric or competitive Enzyme Inhibition that potentiates some psychedelics? I would love to hear some more science regarding this as I am currently working on protein/Antibody binding assays at work. PLease pretty please ! :)
 
is there an amphetamine analouge of 2c-p? DOP - it would be called? Seeing as how 2c-p has such an intense dose/response curve and pretty low mg, could this be potent in the ug range? Would anyone in their right mind take this compound? I don't want to think about how long that would last, but i would like to read a trip report about it...
 
it's in PIHKAL under DOPR but i don't think it's been assayed

What I would like to see is the "J" version of that namely: 2,5-dimethoxy-4-propyl-a-EthylPEA
 
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