Ok, while my brain felt cracked out, i wrote the following while still slightly tripping, hungry, and very tired:
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Going to make this short, because, i'm hungry, and need sleep.
3 of us took ONE MILLIGRAM of 2c-p, and now i look at 2c-e, 2c-d, my fav's of the 2c's, look like ...toys/tools. So, i know this one is going to be tried, and now i understand that one report where it said, well if you have 3 days to spare, its like taking 45 hits of acid and being god, and tweaked out. Well, ....my trip report at this time until i get some sleep will simply be, wow. Shared conscousness, oh in ways i don't know to explain. I'm about to pass out, but munchies, so just saying, start low with this one, its potent! and don't expect just the typical 2c-whatever stuff, patterning? no, you see fractals and time and space, dimentions, the cereal box dancing to the music, first, then you see words change color to sound like its a keyboard, while some letters do the 'twist' to some beats, hear your vision, smell dimention 54.2. Yeah. I am off to bed, brain needs rest...
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Ok, well first of all I should not have said 1mg. I have one of those Tanita 1210 scales, and I used a little wire-thingie for a gelcap holder and a big clear gelcap, to mess with the powder. Technically, the scale probably isn't super accurate at around 2mg-4mg anyway. Well to make this short, I really do think we did take 'about 1mg', maybe even LESS! The three doses on the scale at once, was able to make it read back and forth between 0-2mg (plus the weight of the capsule/wire thing). It was a teeny teeny little bit of powder. I will have to, next time I do anything with it, dissolve like 50mg into 100mL water/etc.
So with that cleared up... i'll try to explain what I think 'happened' to bring us all up to cloud universe 35.x^2.
I took my dose, around...5pm i'm guessing, on a semi-full stomach, and then, I ate more food. I just expected maybe, if anything at all, color enhancement, etc.. "threshold dose". I noticed a feeling very very slowly coming on, over maybe..2-3 hours. At first, it was really, sort of relaxing, and a "calm" feeling, clarity of vision. Seemed to clear up the "normal fuzz" or static in my vision, not that mine would be any more than someone else, just saying, well I dont know how to put it, "pixel resolution improved".
Now I was just sort of laying down in my room, relaxing, noticing any changes. There was a very strong pain-killing effect, a pleasant numbing, I just felt good all over. I would pinch myself on my hand, arm, leg, foot, and it was like I took a damn strong opiate or something. I thought well a low dose of this would be excellent for pain relief. Throughout the whole night actually, there were only really... minor tracers... colors enhanced, clarity.. Looking at a carpet, or some text, I didn't see the normal patterning I would get from most anything else at a more normal dose.
I felt so relaxed and just, well, "good", I could have easily slept. I felt a STRONG euphoria come over me for quite a while! Some jaw clenching, I was wondering if its from a massive dopamine or serotonin release. Two friends were going to come over, a trip wasn't planned or anything.. I layed down floored in euphoria for a while longer, and finally got my ass up, and since I didnt want to fall asleep, I took a 10mg tab of dex-amphetamine, which for me, well with my amph. tolerance, sometimes one of those actually helps me get to sleep. Well, this woke me up. It woke me up, like I had eaten 50mg of dex! Dry mouth.. super energetic, etc. I think this also killed down the "floored" euphoria, although the numbing/pain relief effect was still there (I believe I took the dex around 9-ish pm, about 4 hours after I took the 2c-p with lots of food).
My friends just got here about then, and we were talking for a while, I noticed very nice color enhancement, and noticed I started to get "super focus", almost like a decent dose of methamphetamine, but not with a meth-like euphoria. Also noticed my thoughts started to get scattered, but could be from this 'super focus' as I would go to do one thing, but start talking and i'd be so focused on that, that i'd forget that I was going to go do/get/whatever the other thing. So this super amplification of the amphetamine would have effected the trip, who knows maybe it amplified the 2c-p but I dont think so as i'll explain..
My friends ate their "mostly air filled" capsules around..10-11pm. They each took a dex themselves, I told them maybe wait for that, because I was thinking the dex is what killed the super-euphoria, but they ended up taking one each also.
Now, they did not get the extreme euphoria for most of the trip - but when the dex wore off, for one friend at least, he was getting it strong..
I read in PIHKAL this:
Now, I didnt really intend to mean that the small dose we all took was, "strong" - I think, that maybe we brought ourselves up to our own level, just by talking. We did a lot of talking, and going out in public, or doing something normal, wouldn't have been a problem, it was as if we had most of the control, to explore.
I found it interesting to start talking about how some people have experienced some kind of dual consciousness, like when people have had their corpus callosum cut. I took some red and blue fronts off several empty cd cases, to put over my eyes, so that i could...well, play around and see what I could do. Things like this, science, how this or that works, were all so interesting to discuss. I think just by us talking, brought us up to a wierd level, where just thinking I could perceive fractal vision, very "wide" vision, and I could see wierd things about how the two eyes meet, we could see a single 'point' where ..well really I could go on for too long so I won't get much into 'our trip' here - I don't know exactly what that PIHKAL entry about 'shared consciousness' meant, but it seemed like all of us were at the same place, like this substance opened a door to a book with infinite pages, the books title was, "Everything", and the Author is, "God" (haha). And we read 23 million pages before we got too exhausted.
I don't know if it was us that brought this effect on, or the 2c-p. I think the 2c-p was more of a helper, because we all just had fun exploring different ideas about 'out there' things, and I think I brought on some synthesia, well, because I just happened to think about it, I watched this cereal box go back and forth to the music, and I asked my friends, is that box really going to the music? They could see it also, I looked at the computer screen and watched things dance around to different beats in the music, and the winamp playlist, different songs would light up in green to beats, reminded me of hitting keys on a piano.
The one girl that was over said, it reminded her of morning glory seeds, and that she wishes *insert fast food chain here* would put a 'lil of this in everyone's fries,
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Now, I am curious about a somewhat higher level, but I do wonder about this massive euphoria, pain relief etc. I read something (maybe here on BL) about someone being so tired and falling asleep, but unable to wake up because of the sedation. I took the 10mg dex because well, although i was floored with euphoria and felt so nice all over, I didn't want to fall asleep. I thought "well, if this is so sedating, adding some kind of stimulant might even be 'necessary' to have a trip"(before i realised that we would actually trip that night). If that one entry saying 16mg for someone was a clear overdose, makes ya wonder what it is doing with dopamine/serotonin/anything else.
I feel just great right now, I did have some strange dreams. I really did need the sleep though, the 'cracked out' effect felt more like being up too long and taking stimulants a little much. The sun was coming up, seeing it was 5-6am, i was really suprised! Usually time seems to slow down, but like i said, it felt more like we were on amphetamine and 'talked' ourselves into many interesting states of consciousness. Oh, we did smoke some pot, and I could see pot's psychedelic effects, although it did seem like for all of us, we weren't 'stoned', sort of like when I smoke on MDMA and it doesn't really have that same stoned headspace.
Next time I do anything with this stuff, i'm going to measure out like 50mg and dissolve it into a solution, and maybe even try taking 100-200ug! Also I should maybe let 1mg sit out and dry, and put the powder into a capsule, and just take a look and see if it 'looks' more or less than what we took, i almost think it will be more!
This isn't one to fuck around with, that huge euphoria and pleasant numbing/pain killing effect, makes me worry about higher doses! I did wake up to use the bathroom and eat some more, at maybe 2-3pm, and noticed some slight visual effects still, although through the whole trip, when we did something like go outside/etc. There wasn't really a problem, it was like we were sober and on some speed. I didnt see fractals unless I wanted to... it was nice. There's so much more I 'explored' but too much to write, but wow, this one has a lot of potential, i'm curious about a higher level although that won't be for a while, and maybe after I read some others reports that will come eventually. I do hope at least some will just try like 1mg, 2mg/etc. - so we can see how it compares to 'our' experience. If you are with some good friends, explore this 'shared consciousness' thing, or whatever it is!
When I first tried 2C-E, I took 5mg, why do people always have to start somewhere high? Sometimes you can get a lot out of low doses, and I think 2C-P is one of them! Be careful folks, please %)
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Going to make this short, because, i'm hungry, and need sleep.
3 of us took ONE MILLIGRAM of 2c-p, and now i look at 2c-e, 2c-d, my fav's of the 2c's, look like ...toys/tools. So, i know this one is going to be tried, and now i understand that one report where it said, well if you have 3 days to spare, its like taking 45 hits of acid and being god, and tweaked out. Well, ....my trip report at this time until i get some sleep will simply be, wow. Shared conscousness, oh in ways i don't know to explain. I'm about to pass out, but munchies, so just saying, start low with this one, its potent! and don't expect just the typical 2c-whatever stuff, patterning? no, you see fractals and time and space, dimentions, the cereal box dancing to the music, first, then you see words change color to sound like its a keyboard, while some letters do the 'twist' to some beats, hear your vision, smell dimention 54.2. Yeah. I am off to bed, brain needs rest...
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Ok, well first of all I should not have said 1mg. I have one of those Tanita 1210 scales, and I used a little wire-thingie for a gelcap holder and a big clear gelcap, to mess with the powder. Technically, the scale probably isn't super accurate at around 2mg-4mg anyway. Well to make this short, I really do think we did take 'about 1mg', maybe even LESS! The three doses on the scale at once, was able to make it read back and forth between 0-2mg (plus the weight of the capsule/wire thing). It was a teeny teeny little bit of powder. I will have to, next time I do anything with it, dissolve like 50mg into 100mL water/etc.
So with that cleared up... i'll try to explain what I think 'happened' to bring us all up to cloud universe 35.x^2.
I took my dose, around...5pm i'm guessing, on a semi-full stomach, and then, I ate more food. I just expected maybe, if anything at all, color enhancement, etc.. "threshold dose". I noticed a feeling very very slowly coming on, over maybe..2-3 hours. At first, it was really, sort of relaxing, and a "calm" feeling, clarity of vision. Seemed to clear up the "normal fuzz" or static in my vision, not that mine would be any more than someone else, just saying, well I dont know how to put it, "pixel resolution improved".
Now I was just sort of laying down in my room, relaxing, noticing any changes. There was a very strong pain-killing effect, a pleasant numbing, I just felt good all over. I would pinch myself on my hand, arm, leg, foot, and it was like I took a damn strong opiate or something. I thought well a low dose of this would be excellent for pain relief. Throughout the whole night actually, there were only really... minor tracers... colors enhanced, clarity.. Looking at a carpet, or some text, I didn't see the normal patterning I would get from most anything else at a more normal dose.
I felt so relaxed and just, well, "good", I could have easily slept. I felt a STRONG euphoria come over me for quite a while! Some jaw clenching, I was wondering if its from a massive dopamine or serotonin release. Two friends were going to come over, a trip wasn't planned or anything.. I layed down floored in euphoria for a while longer, and finally got my ass up, and since I didnt want to fall asleep, I took a 10mg tab of dex-amphetamine, which for me, well with my amph. tolerance, sometimes one of those actually helps me get to sleep. Well, this woke me up. It woke me up, like I had eaten 50mg of dex! Dry mouth.. super energetic, etc. I think this also killed down the "floored" euphoria, although the numbing/pain relief effect was still there (I believe I took the dex around 9-ish pm, about 4 hours after I took the 2c-p with lots of food).
My friends just got here about then, and we were talking for a while, I noticed very nice color enhancement, and noticed I started to get "super focus", almost like a decent dose of methamphetamine, but not with a meth-like euphoria. Also noticed my thoughts started to get scattered, but could be from this 'super focus' as I would go to do one thing, but start talking and i'd be so focused on that, that i'd forget that I was going to go do/get/whatever the other thing. So this super amplification of the amphetamine would have effected the trip, who knows maybe it amplified the 2c-p but I dont think so as i'll explain..
My friends ate their "mostly air filled" capsules around..10-11pm. They each took a dex themselves, I told them maybe wait for that, because I was thinking the dex is what killed the super-euphoria, but they ended up taking one each also.
Now, they did not get the extreme euphoria for most of the trip - but when the dex wore off, for one friend at least, he was getting it strong..
I read in PIHKAL this:
Now, I didnt really intend to mean that the small dose we all took was, "strong" - I think, that maybe we brought ourselves up to our own level, just by talking. We did a lot of talking, and going out in public, or doing something normal, wouldn't have been a problem, it was as if we had most of the control, to explore.
I found it interesting to start talking about how some people have experienced some kind of dual consciousness, like when people have had their corpus callosum cut. I took some red and blue fronts off several empty cd cases, to put over my eyes, so that i could...well, play around and see what I could do. Things like this, science, how this or that works, were all so interesting to discuss. I think just by us talking, brought us up to a wierd level, where just thinking I could perceive fractal vision, very "wide" vision, and I could see wierd things about how the two eyes meet, we could see a single 'point' where ..well really I could go on for too long so I won't get much into 'our trip' here - I don't know exactly what that PIHKAL entry about 'shared consciousness' meant, but it seemed like all of us were at the same place, like this substance opened a door to a book with infinite pages, the books title was, "Everything", and the Author is, "God" (haha). And we read 23 million pages before we got too exhausted.
I don't know if it was us that brought this effect on, or the 2c-p. I think the 2c-p was more of a helper, because we all just had fun exploring different ideas about 'out there' things, and I think I brought on some synthesia, well, because I just happened to think about it, I watched this cereal box go back and forth to the music, and I asked my friends, is that box really going to the music? They could see it also, I looked at the computer screen and watched things dance around to different beats in the music, and the winamp playlist, different songs would light up in green to beats, reminded me of hitting keys on a piano.
The one girl that was over said, it reminded her of morning glory seeds, and that she wishes *insert fast food chain here* would put a 'lil of this in everyone's fries,
.Now, I am curious about a somewhat higher level, but I do wonder about this massive euphoria, pain relief etc. I read something (maybe here on BL) about someone being so tired and falling asleep, but unable to wake up because of the sedation. I took the 10mg dex because well, although i was floored with euphoria and felt so nice all over, I didn't want to fall asleep. I thought "well, if this is so sedating, adding some kind of stimulant might even be 'necessary' to have a trip"(before i realised that we would actually trip that night). If that one entry saying 16mg for someone was a clear overdose, makes ya wonder what it is doing with dopamine/serotonin/anything else.
I feel just great right now, I did have some strange dreams. I really did need the sleep though, the 'cracked out' effect felt more like being up too long and taking stimulants a little much. The sun was coming up, seeing it was 5-6am, i was really suprised! Usually time seems to slow down, but like i said, it felt more like we were on amphetamine and 'talked' ourselves into many interesting states of consciousness. Oh, we did smoke some pot, and I could see pot's psychedelic effects, although it did seem like for all of us, we weren't 'stoned', sort of like when I smoke on MDMA and it doesn't really have that same stoned headspace.
Next time I do anything with this stuff, i'm going to measure out like 50mg and dissolve it into a solution, and maybe even try taking 100-200ug! Also I should maybe let 1mg sit out and dry, and put the powder into a capsule, and just take a look and see if it 'looks' more or less than what we took, i almost think it will be more!
This isn't one to fuck around with, that huge euphoria and pleasant numbing/pain killing effect, makes me worry about higher doses! I did wake up to use the bathroom and eat some more, at maybe 2-3pm, and noticed some slight visual effects still, although through the whole trip, when we did something like go outside/etc. There wasn't really a problem, it was like we were sober and on some speed. I didnt see fractals unless I wanted to... it was nice. There's so much more I 'explored' but too much to write, but wow, this one has a lot of potential, i'm curious about a higher level although that won't be for a while, and maybe after I read some others reports that will come eventually. I do hope at least some will just try like 1mg, 2mg/etc. - so we can see how it compares to 'our' experience. If you are with some good friends, explore this 'shared consciousness' thing, or whatever it is!
When I first tried 2C-E, I took 5mg, why do people always have to start somewhere high? Sometimes you can get a lot out of low doses, and I think 2C-P is one of them! Be careful folks, please %)
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