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(2C-P/70 mg) First time: Overdose

agnetha

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Yesterday, I started the evening by ingesting 70mg 2C-P on an empty stomach. Oh, and I chased it with plenty of fresh grapefruit juice.

This wasn't done intentionally, there was no super masochistical suicide scheme behind this. Just a stupid mix-up between two types of white powder.

At the time I realized the massive overdose I took (regrettably 45mins later), strong effects of the chemical already began to manifest.

It took a huge effort to stay coherent enough to call an ambulance, and convey what I had done. The hospital where they brought me had never seen a poisoning like this. I was the drug-overdose freak of the month, everybody came to take a look. They were unsure what do do, but at least had sense enough to call some toxicologists at the capitol.
They of course mistook 2C-P with 2C-B, but I was to far gone to correct them. It made no difference anyhow. Uncontrollable muscle tremors in my lower extremeties were the most pronounced side effect at this time.

They moved me to an ER where I was stuffed with more tubes and medical gear than I could count. The experience meanwhile had excelled a solid +++ on the shulgin scale. So the procedures the staff had to perfom on me weren't just painful and uncomfortable, no, they were terrorizing and unsufferable due to the influence of the chemical. It took a long while before I mercifully lost consciousness.

I awoke the next day, still attached to an impressive machine park at the ER. During the day they plugged me out, cleaned me up, and released me after a psychiatrist looked me over -against their specific advice- into the hands of a trusted friend.

I could have died, but I didn't. Doc says, my kindeys and liver made it, probably without too much damage, how my brain did is anybodies guess. Longterm damage of course has to be assessed but I doubt there will be much.

What did I learn from this? What can you learn from this little tale? I don't know, although some obvious conclusions come to mind...
 
Glad you're OK. That must have been very frightening. Good concise unemotional report. Hope all's well in the aftermath
 
Good to hear you made it through relatively intact. I guess it's a reminder to practice the rules of drug dosing etiquette -- label everything (vials should have both the caps and the vial body labeled to avoid screwing the wrong cap on), and don't have more than one pile of drugs out at a time.
 
Glad you seem to have come through unscathed, all I can say is folllow what psood0nym said & always state the concentration on the label if you store drugs in solution, medical services are such fantastic things when you need them aren't they.
 
Very interesting. This thread is a testimony to why one has to use much caution when experimenting with research chemicals, as they are extremely potent. Thank you for writing it. You may save a life.
 
Thank you for the kind words.

I had a night to sleep over this horrible incident, enough to get a little perspective, but I'll need some more time to mull this over.

Sloppiness, stupidity and reckless behavior handling research chemicals is punished hard, I knew that before, now I its ingrained in my bones.

I learned one or two things from this. Those were not psychedelic insights, but the kind of realizations you'd get from traumatizing events like, for instance, a near fatal car crash needlessly caused by yourself.

In recent months I became a little obsessed with psychedelics and the rc scene. Although I never raked up the incomprehensibly high usage statistic that some other users here report, they were a growing part of my life. The urge behind this experiments has ceased for now.

When I post the next trip report you'll know I have repaired -let's hope it won't be another story about a catastrophic OD.
 
agnetha said:
Thank you for the kind words.

I had a night to sleep over this horrible incident, enough to get a little perspective, but I'll need some more time to mull this over.

Sloppiness, stupidity and reckless behavior handling research chemicals is punished hard, I knew that before, now I its ingrained in my bones.

I learned one or two things from this. Those were not psychedelic insights, but the kind of realizations you'd get from traumatizing events like, for instance, a near fatal car crash needlessly caused by yourself.

In recent months I became a little obsessed with psychedelics and the rc scene. Although I never raked up the incomprehensibly high usage statistic that some other users here report, they were a growing part of my life. The urge behind this experiments has ceased for now.

When I post the next trip report you'll know I have repaired -let's hope it won't be another story about a catastrophic OD.
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im glad you're alright man. i just had a similar incident happen to myself, however my vitals were fine. it's a real eye-opener, i spent an entire evening doing nothing but labeling everything i had appropriately, including recommended dosages based on my body weight, should i ever feel the need to trip when i'm far from my computer. i've also started to try and compile MSDS where i can, although they're scarce for most of the compounds.

psychedelics can be an invaluable tool but they can also create a huge rut. i think you've got the message and it's time to hang up the phone for a bit, so to speak. spend some time centering and be sure not to moralize over the accident. it was just that, an accident, and though it could've been avoided, there's no use putting yourself down. just don't forget the lessons it's taught you.

be safe, and tread lightly for a while. i'm doing that myself, and it's lovely. :) i'll keep you in my thoughts, dude <3
 
Overdose Nr. 2

Boys and girls, there was a unpleasent (read: rather horrid) aftermath to the incident I described in my original trip report. It turned out that I didn't mix up two different substances, the rc-vendor mislabeled the product.

I don't want to repeat myself, you can read it here
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=8658607&postcount=149

My my most frightening and horrid experiences were two accidental overdoses on an unknown psychedelic within seven days.

The first incident was, what I thought at the time, a 2C-P overdose (70 mg) which led to my hospitalization where I was treated to every uncomfortable and painful procedure a ER has to offer
(http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=515798).

I wanted to test a unremarkable stim (Buphedrone) and mixed up the containers -at least this was what I figured originally.

The second incident was one week later when I finally came around to test the stim I as originally intended. There was no mistake this time. The RC vendor had mislabelled the bags. He sent me a very very potent unknown psychedelic -most probably of the 2C family- and packaged it with the label "Buphedrone". I overdosed again on 80mg. Very frightening, prospect. It was one of the more respected vendors. I was reminded of the bromo-dragonfly fuckup that had cost several peoples lives a while back.

This time I decided to ride it out without calling an ambulance. Imagine the pure angst and despair when I realized I had to go through the same insane nightmare AGAIN within 6 days of stumbling out of a hospital! I could'nt cry and could'nt vomit, although I sincerely wished to perform at least one of the two (:

The chemical took five hours to come up. It started with sweating profusely and uncontrollable muscle spams and got worse from there. The trip lasted over 30 hours, 24 of those at or beyond a +++. I ingested at seven pm. The night was chaotic and apocalyptic, no sleep, heavily disorientated. No music, no light, the visual and auditory distortions were to heavy anyway to comprehend any external input. Psychotic and delirious, would be a accurate descriptions of my mindset in those hours.

I loved the moment the sun came up. I spent dawn naked on my terrace. The world around me looked like a churning and swirling Van-Gogh painting -only much sharper, more precise. A naked animal, poisoned and exhausted, but thanks to the very same poison every function of it's being dialed up to 150%. I knew I would survive this, there was a way out. Felt great. I spend the day at +++, the evening at ++. I called in sick (and underneath the heavily distorted body-buzz I was), but had to type some emails, make a couple of phone calls and review some texts. In hindsight I actually produced high quality work that day, enhanced by crystal clear, super precise psychedelic thinking.

In the evening I called a friend, she picked me up and nursed me the following days. I needed several days to repair, spent mostly sleeping. 30 hours tripping hard without food or sleep took something out of me. At least no kidney pain and no skin yellowing, so maybe not to much damage (:
I could not tell her what I had done to myself, so I faked a burnout episode, which was entirely believable, since I do have a 60h per week high stress job.

Those two were, so far, the worst trips of my life. I don't regret them, especially the second one was very insightful, but I could've done without those experiences.
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if you wish to.



RC Vendors are essentially drug dealers who don't give a shit. It's easy to forget over the serious veneer of professionalism and scientific diligence some of them cultivate.

Also, everyone who dabbles with research chemicals without cautious titrating, and painstakingly sticking to well established safety procedures is an idiot. I was one of those Idiots.

Seeing the insane frenzy about, for instance, 6-apb makes me nervous in light of my recent experiences. Be safe, start with low dosages, don't trust rc-vendors.
 
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That is truly terrible!!!
Have you contacted the vendor? You might not be the only one who have received a mislabelled product.
 
Yeah, I did contact the vendor. It's one of the bigger ones in the industry. I wrote them while still under the influence. They did not react. I didn't expect them to. It's entirely possible that other customers got mislabeled bags. Maybe they review their packaging process, maybe not. I hope so. You know they state that their products 'are not for human consumptions' so their asses are covered.

I don't know if what happened to me is grave enough to issue a warning over this or similar boards naming the company. Maybe a experienced moderator who stumbles over this post can think this over.

So far we have anecdotal evidence from a single customer (=my trip report) that something went wrong, nothing more. Possibly not enough to start a name an shame campaign.
Maybe I'll shell out the $ needed to have the compound analyzed. Then there would be proof. On the other hand someone else could end up in medical care because of the same mixup.
I guess it's a start if people who read this thread are more cautious.
 
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It would be a good idea to put out a general warning, that anyone who recently bought buphedrone should approach with caution.

I have done so already on a few other forums I use.

MODS: What do you think?
 
^No naming of vendors is allowed on BL, even to name and shame, it's against the no sourcing rule.
 
Agnetha, my heart goes out to you. Two truly terrifying experiences within a week.

I can only think that a name and shame on boards where it is allowed is probably the best way to go. Certainly falls inline with the HR values of this board.

Shelling out the cash to get this substance tested would be a good idea, if only to assuage my curiosity haha, but also because I'm assuming you have a large amount of this left!
 
That's seriously scary. It doesn't matter if the companies are stating "not for human consumption." They know very well what their businesses are based on, and making a mistake like that is shamefully irresponsible.

I would at least suggest going on to review sites that let you anonymously comment on vendor legitimacy and post a warning there.
 
Very frightening, I recomend testing of all chems in tiny amounts & build up ingestion slowly, on different days (especially with Psychedelics) regardless of what chem you think you have...
 
I recently had an OD with a substance that may have been mislabeled. You can read about it under the 500 mg 4 aco DMT post. Mine is the 150 mg dose towards the end.

P.S. I wont touch RC's any more.
 
I won't comment on the affair again before I have the compound analyzed. Don't know when this will happen. I'll post the results, maybe it'll satisfy the curiosity of one or two readers.

I do peruse other drug related forums and sites, but don't maintain accounts with them. If you feel my little tale can prevent more incidents of this kind, spread it at other places.

A little hint: The vendor I used, just closed doors for new customers and announced that a invite-only scheme for aquiring new ones will implemented.

This should suffice to identify him. If this remark is violating bluelights restrictions on discussing sources, a moderater can delete or censor this message. If it's just barely over the line, maybe it should be left alone in the interest of harm reduction.

I will not quit using research chemicals like demon66. I got slapped hard twice for being stupid, and hope I learned the lesson. I see this in a broader perspective: Other users of this forum report insane incidents involving psychedelics that aren't even on the same map as my little catastrophe. So I have catching up to do... (:

Since incident Nr. 2 the only psychoactive substances I ingest are green tea (my favorite stimulant) and raspberry ice cream (solid antidepressant). It'll stay that way until the time is right.
 
This is my first time posting, I read your post and got chills and ultimately started crying because it was so close to my experience.

The exact same thing happened to me on 22nd of July 2010.

I had purchased some chemicals from what sounds like the same vendor, the one who now has invite only customers.

What I purchased was "Buphedrone" However, what I got was certainly not Buphedrone. I have had experience with taking Buphedrone before and it came from the same vendor as the current bag I have. I was expecting the same mild-ish stimulant qualities I had experienced on it previously, but something went wrong, really, really wrong.

I injested around 70mg of the product, with thirty minutes, I had started to vomit violently, straining and gagging yet nothing was coming up. My vision went into a tunnel of darkness and I could no longer see my face in the mirror, I realise quickly that either, I have overdosed on Buphedrone OR what I was sold was some kind of psychedelic, it felt like a bad, heavy acid trip and it was only getting worse and stronger as the time went on.
An hour had passed, my pulse was out of control, I was sweating and frightened beyond belief. I had NEVER felt so intoxicated from anything I had had in the past.
I called my mother who came around to my house, to find me naked in a chair crying and sweating, completley disorientated and "psychotic" she later told me.

She called an ambulance, they arrive, and I freak out. I'm told I tried to swing at the paramedics, yelling screaming and kicking.. They radio the Police because they thought I was a "danger to myself and others".
Police arrive, more confusion and fear, I'm thrown into the paddy wagon like a freak, like a piece of garbage, they take me to the psychiatric ward at my local hospital under guard and locked in a glass room with a camera on me.
The nurses were not allowed to enter my room unless they were with the guards, I was treated like an animal, a wild, dangerous animal. I kept seeing the nurses and police rolling their eyes at me as if to say "oh just another fucked up junkie"

I was kept locked in that room for just under 24hours. And like agnetha, was not allowed to leave until I had the all clear of the psychiatrist.

I can confidently say that night, was most definatly the Worst night of my entire life.
Agnetha, I cried when you mentioned "the sun come out", I had said the EXACT thing, I remember felling, Im stuck in loop and time wasnt moving, all I need was the warmth and reassurance of the sun. Everything was dark, cold, looming and so scary.
I had remarkably similar experiences as Agnetha had, feeling like I had died, crossed over and was watching this drama unfold in front of me.
I have never been so fucking scared in my years of drug taking.
I'm left wondering what to do? I dont have the money to test this stuff, Ive emailed the vendor, and yet to get a response, they dont care.

I'm done with all RC's, I have been taking them for around two years, and this incident has truly rocked me to core of my existence, I feel so broken now.
That was my wake up call and frightening enough for me to walk away from it all.

Please don't be stupid like me, tread carefully, very carefully.
 
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Since this came labelled as Buphedrone to two different people, is it safe to assume that this experience probably was not 2c-p? Perhaps the saddest thing about this is that the vast majority of RC consumers will probably still trust their lives to vendors and custom synth companies based purely on the assumption that they don't make mistakes. The one that scares me the most is the NBOME Mescaline, not because it appears to be dangerous itself but because of the possibility of contaminants with very minor changes in chemical structure could increase the potency 1000X and the SAR is still fairly unexplored to most.

Even if I were to buy RC's from Sigma Aldrich, I'd still test everything I ordered before taking it.
 
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Yerg said:
^No naming of vendors is allowed on BL, even to name and shame, it's against the no sourcing rule.
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That's not totally true. With the Haupt RC deaths, bluelight stepped in and allowed mention of the vendor as a safety measure
 
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