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2C-P (30mg) - some experience - Better than most

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ER0X

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30mg 2cp better than most

I have sort of a naturally high tolerance to most phens/amphetamines. I had insuffilated about 5mg and ate 13mg in combination with 50mg 2CD insuffilated a few nights before. The burn was the worst pain I've ever felt in my nose, worse than 2ct7 or any other phen. It was an enjoyble trip but not as strong as I expected it to be but it was really nice. Other phens I've tried are 2cd, 2ce, 2ct2, 2ct7.
I emptied about 30mg in some water, couldn't taste it. I was expecting a long come up, but it kicked in in about an hour. I figured this would be a strong trip and hoped that it would be an enjoyable one, but I was a little skeptical.
On the come up which was hitting me strong and fast I smoked one toke of some weak dust and a toke of some weak weed to ease myself into the trip. I don't know how much this effected it but becuase each hit was so weak I doubt much.
Well let me just say that this is by far one of the strongest and best trips ever. I have a lot of respect for this one. Unfortunatly the dose response curve is very unpredictable. But this a very pleasurable experience. The visuals were some of best I've ever gotten since DMT,ayahuasca, or LSD. Music was absolutely breathtakingly awsome. I had a profound headspace and my body felt really euphoric. It was a bit too strong for a few hours, and I could barely move around much but it was still cool and I felt safe and the head trip was really cool. With acid I get spacey and a little bugged out, silly, anxious, and paranoid. This had none of that, I felt great.
The total trip lasted about 9-10 hours and the peak lasted for about 5-6. This one is a real winner and I plan on repeating it again but I will probly take a little less next time. One my best experiences.
 
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Sounds astounding. Thanks for the contribution. I'm definately putting this one on my list. I find 2c-i to burn horribly, far worse than 2ct2, 2cb, 2cd, or 2ce. I start my trip clutching my face rolling around on the floor screaming and crying.

How do you feel after the entire trip and the next day?
 
You've insufflated 50mg of 2C-P previous to this?

These doses are much higher than most people are reporting. It seems many people have very intense experiences at less than 1/5th of this dose. For this reason I would have liked to see more details in this report.

To anyone reading this, considering trying 2C-P, please do not take a dose that is nearly this high. Having never used this chemical, I would still suggest starting in the single-digit-milligram range.
 
I presume you were just at home during these events, just doing "stuff"?
 
sorry forgot to readover my post, the 50mg was 2cd in combo with 5mg 2cp insuff/13mg oral
 
I gotta say that I don't recomend anyone take this dosage especially in combo with other drugs. I had 2 15mg bags and did each and for a while it was alittle too strong for me to be completely comfortable with but it was still AWSOME.
 
Once again, you prove yourself to be one of the most irresponsible "psychonauts" that I've ever seen. This was stupid, dangerous, and clearly shows that you use chemicals WAY too much.

One day, you will become the statistic. The irresponsible user who ruins it for everybody.

I could rant for hours. I've been there. Taking those ridiculous doses, etc. You know what has a tendency to fix that? Don't use them so much.

I think it is stupidly ridiculous how you took a substance this powerful and treated it like candy nonetheless.

On the come up which was hitting me strong and fast I smoked one toke of some weak dust and a toke of some weak weed to ease myself into the trip.
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Enough said...
 
Meh, whatever. Do what you want.

I'm just pointing out that I've been there. I almost killed myself doing shit like that. Just be careful.

Don't ruin the fun for the rest of us!
 
Anyways...... How does 50mg insufflated 2C-D equate to an oral dose? I have been pondering, faster comeup? higher peak?

much love
 
I recall reading that insufflated PEA doses are approximate 3x the potency of oral.
 
That would equate to 150mg oral. 2C-D has been used at 150mg orally in clinical therapy trials in Germany, and found to be effective, though very powerful, at that level. I imagine 50mg insufflated would be a much different type of trip (insufflation nearly always changes the character of a drug), though, probably speedier and more intense, and I am not suggesting anyone try it. For most people I would guess it would be unpleasantly overwhelming.
 
I doubt that this will help but... I too have noticed a recklessness in your drug use. The reasons are transparent as to why it is dangerous to act as such, but I would hope that (even if you overlook the personal harm that may come to you) you would consider the effects on the community.

At the very least, if you are going to do something foolish, keep it quiet. We don't need any 15 year olds following your example.
 
thats a really uneccesarily high dose of 2c-p. unless you are tripping every other day. i find the trip more than enough at around the 9 mg. mark.....

i suggest you think more about your doses of drugs, after all, they could be harmfulfor u in the long run.
 
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At the very least, if you are going to do something foolish, keep it quiet. We don't need any 15 year olds following your example.
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I disagree, it's good to have examples throughout the range of doses.

I'd say, if you are going to do something extreme, *please* write about it so people know what will happen if they intentionally or accidentally do the same thing.

And our replies are what serves to keep the kiddies from doing the same.
 
like I said already, I have a NATUARALLY HIGH tolerance to phens. The dose I took was nothing ridiculous, atleast for my standards. I make no apologies for any of my actions, some people just need more of things to get off. OK

50mg 2cd would probly be equal to 150mg oral but I still don't think that that's all that strong for me.
 
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No apologies needed. Please don't be discouraged from posting reports in the future.

But if your doses are always this high you have to expect a few people to jump in and question it...

But calling you irresponsible really is unnescessary. Everybody has their own limits. Just be careful :)
 
ER0X said:
50mg 2cd would probly be equal to 150mg oral but I still don't think that that's all that strong for me.
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Thanks for the reply, have you ever dosed 50mg orally and compared the two routes of administration? I recently insufflated 8mg 2c-d (looks like about 25mg of 2c-i), this shit burns like hell, it doesn't last too long, as far as the burn goes, but god damn it hurts. I have had almost pure crystal that looks like glass, and that didn't even hurt as much. Anyways, off topic now, I just can't imagine 50mg up the nose.

As far as the high, I felt pretty good around 20 mins after the dose, great body high, very mild visual disturbances, but the feeling left rather quickly maybe lasted 3 hours from time of ingestion. I think oral is better from this experiment at least, I like to be up for at least 5 hours or so.

Also, I am intrigued by the german reports, of 150mg, I am strongly considering a dose of 80-100mg soon. I am curious as to how much stronger it would be compared to 50mg. I have read that from 60mg to 80mg, there wasn't much jump as compared to 40mg to 50mg where there was (for me) a big difference.
 
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