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2C-I vs 5-MeO-MiPT? Which is more of a party drug

all this talk has somewhat wet my appetite for this 5-meo-mipt. had read about it before but something about a 3some with 2 hotties vs a transvestite on a roof .... :)

2ci is a nice chem ill give it that though, and some fun times were had with a very low dose of it, probably the only psychedelic i ever tired with unknown people around. 0 exp with moxy though. (and 2ce does not belong in this discussion i believe. 2ce is no party drug for me, as it makes me have serious insights, a bit meditative, wild visuals and something that i like to think as a full body orgasm on music beamed directly into my brain. thats after 2 hours of nausea that makes the muscles hurt for a few days after... )

though one must also add that the 2ci is fairly easier to get than moxy, is it not?
 
Not an answer to your question but 2c-p had me dancing by the speakers and also exploring the woodlands for 7+ hours recently! I ought to write a trip report...

Anyway... 2c-i is a great party thing, gives you energy to dance and makes things fun.
 
I've never tried 5-meo-mipt personally. I've used 2C-I and 2C-E pretty extensively.

LSD is one of the most unique psychedelics out there. Nothing I know of on the RC scene is all that similar to it; if you haven't tried many psychedelics you may find them similar but LSD is less like any RC I know of than many RCs are to each other. The 2Cs are closest to mescaline, the 4-substituted tryptamines are generally closest to mushrooms/DMT, and the 5-substituted tryptamines are weird :P

Anyway.... Speaking from zero personal experience, what I've *read* about 5-meo-mipt makes it sound like a very social experience / party drug. 2C-I is a decent party drug, although I prefer it for raves/concerts. 2C-I is very stimulating, the visuals are pretty tame and so is the headspace in my experience. 2C-E is like its big brother, much more intense and not very social at all, but 2C-I is mild enough (for me, at least) that I could definitely see taking it at a party.

As for bodyload on 2C-E: every 30+mg dose of 2C-E I've taken involved vomiting (never vomited from 2C-I on its own), but it's really not that bad. The come-up can be a bit rough, then you puke for a minute or two, then you wash up and feel much better so you can enjoy the rest of the trip. It's kinda like mescaline in that regard; "purging" is a common come-up experience but once you've emptied your gut, the nausea fades away.

kingme: easy to get depends on who you know. I'm sure there are people who know a great source for 5-meo-mipt but not 2Cs, and vice versa.
 
^^ Yeah I havent had a chance to try many really only LSD, Mushrooms,salvia, 2cb once but I was expecting mdma and that was b4 i even knew what 2cb was so i didnt really like the night I had. Your probably right that the naseua wont be a big deal once it goes away.
Definately going to have to try both as so far everyone seems to love them both. Appreciate all the feedback so far! And glad to hear anymore thoughts on either if anyone has any

kingme said:
though one must also add that the 2ci is fairly easier to get than moxy, is it not?
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Thankfully I can get them both on the same site for the same price basically so there equally possible to get.

nomis said:
Not an answer to your question but 2c-p had me dancing by the speakers and also exploring the woodlands for 7+ hours recently! I ought to write a trip report...
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You definatly should write a trip report. And sadly the site I am planning on using doesnt cary 2c-p which is actially one chem I was very interested in after reading about it, have seen a few that do carry it but no idea how reliable they are so dont really wanna risk it.
 
4-aco-dipt is physiologically a bit more abrasive but it is psychologically/mentally very interresting, sort of more akin to a 4-aco-dmt trip in a way. but definitely not a party drug IMO. definitely something that is worth checking out
 
5-MEO-MIPT:
Through the early phase of 5-meo-mipt it has a rather pleasant medium-level body buzz IMO, and is quite erotic. Then about 3-4 hours in that kinda goes away and it gets very laid back, mental cosmic trippy... all senses are amplified to an astonishing degree, including apparently psychic ones! It is also effectively smokeable (like other 5-meo stuff) in 2-5mg tiny little bumps to good effect... but does not last as long.

4-ACO-DIPT
4-aco-dipt has WAY WAY WAY more body load and erotic energy. The intense body buzz can be astonishing if you are not expecting it.... but if you ARE expecting it and know what to do with it... i.e., start making out with your lover or friend or self (later especially aided by a porno)... it is FUCKING INTENSELY great, IMO... Start with 25-35 mg, but if you find that to be too mild - At 40-50 mg it puts me in this OMFG I JUST HAVE TO TOUCH/BE TOUCHED AND HAVE AN ORGASM RIGHT NOW!!! semi-frenzied trancelike state of mind. Which can be um, alot of fun to say the least! Nicotine and Nitrous Oxide go with this very special intoxication amazingly well also. Booya!!! It's pretty short acting... comes on FAST! about 10-15mins I am starting to feel it, sometimes even faster... starting to peak at like 30-45mins... coming down by 1hr15mins. But in the same session it is pretty resistant to tolerance.... I can just to another dose same size as the first (or maybe a little less) and I its off to the races again! HOWEVER: even just the next day a pretty strong long-term tolerance seems to take effect. That same 40-50 mg is still hella-fun the next day or later that week even, but somehow that thrilling OMFG feeling of physical amazement is missing, so you may want to preserve your stash and avoid doing it again so soon. Wait a full week or a couple weeks and it comes back full force, thankfully.
 
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Well, I'm coming down from 15 mg of 2c-i now and it wasn't that great to be honest.

This is coming from a guy who's only tripped once before. (last week on 10 mg of 2c-e) My last trip was very powerful,colorful and SO AMAZING!

2c-i was pretty much weaker in every way. Weaker visuals, weaker euphoria everything just seemed really weak to me. This could have a lot to do with tolerance maybe? I mean I did just trip last weekend but that was only 10 and this was 15.

I'm just going to go with the crowd and say 2c-i is 2c-e's little brother. I don't even see 2c-i as a party drug unless you take 20-25 mg. But that would probably be too much to handle in such a situation so why bother?

I didn't get any nausea off neither 2cs so I guess I'm just a lucky mother fucker. The body load isn't bad at all but my necks pretty stiff. Feels like I've been screaming for about 30 mins straight but other then that I'm alright. Feel a little jerky but nothing a xanex can't handle.

i'll stick to 2c-e. That was the most profound,amazing experience in my 28 years of living. This 2c-i shit was pretty fucking boring.

Actually, I just remembered that I dumped an extra 5 mgs in my cup because I was afraid 15 wouldn't do shit. So I ended up ingesting 20 mgs.

yea, 2c-i Is weak as fuck.
 
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^agreed,its too funky on the body and tweaky and not very social

2ci is a little bit like 2ce's little brother. but whoseanb, you proably need tot ake abit more to get where you wanna go, but that might be accompanied by a bit of body.

2c-d and a little amphetamine is where it's at in the 2c party scene =D
 
the amphetamine makes it less tofu-y and more interesting

dosage is pretty variable. a low end of the 2C-D dose would be 30-40mg, a high end 60-80mg. i've gone to 100 and it was glorious but it starts to be a little agitating up there, but in the lower end it is almost without any body sensations at all. the amphetamine does will depend on your tolerance and what your amphetamine is. with adderall maybe 20mg, but this might be high for you fi you have no experience wtih speed and low for you if you are int otaking speed a lot. with very high quality MA you wouldnt need more than 10 or 15mg, with the racemic euro-paste you'd probably need 50-100, dexedrine 15mg maybe or so.

2c-d/amp is gold indeed. it is visually lush and gorgeous, happy, not overly psychologically twisted, just chll.
 
whoseanb said:
Well, I'm coming down from 15 mg of 2c-i now and it wasn't that great to be honest.

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yea, 2c-i Is weak as fuck.
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Every drug has its range of effective potency. 2C-E is definitely more potent and more psychedelic than 2C-I. But 2C-I has it uses. At about 25mg a threshold is crossed for many and there but not before me and many others get these AMAZING very thick solid long lasting trails/tracers... but little to no mindfuck like 2C-E can cause so it all depends on what you are looking for. And again, doing things in the proper dose level makes a big difference.... many of the 2C's have VERY different ranges.

I suggest trying it at that level some day before writing it off totally. Some dont like it, others do not feel "excessively tweaked" as others do and they like it. Every Drug<->Person interaction is unique. Different strokes, etc.
 
Maybe 2C-I is not an ideal party drug at psychedelic dosages but take it a little lower and it seems fine to me actually.

5-MeO-MiPT doesn't seem like a party drug at all, that body energy might be good to 'dance away' on the one hand but I just find the sensation a little overwhelming in a strange sort of way and it would probably get in the way of socializing and getting comfortable at a party or wherever.
 
Ok, so after I was talkin all that shit about 2c-I I decided after 6 hours of just seeing slight visuals and basic effects I decided to laydown as I felt like I was sober.

While walkin to my room I stood and looked in the hallway mirror.(I did this multiple times during the trip. This time I looked at my self and just got these weird feelings that made me a little scared. Don't know what it was exactly. I wasn't morphing at all like I was while on 2c-e

I just felt a creepy crawlin sensational rush go through my body as I looked at myself and even got scared of looking...at myself. I kept asking myself "is this a bad trip trying to kick in? Is this what the people on bluelight speak of?was it just my mind tripping? I was perfectly fine this whole time and now I'm starting to feel crazy". This wasnt me just thinking crazy shit because to be honest, I have no idea what I was thinking. It was how my body felt. Just like something was crawling out of my skin and I trembled a little bit and got goose bumps. Very creepy feeling.

I'm so off topic but I'd never take a pysch in a public setting. It's just too damn unpredictable. If I was out in public I wouldve lost my fucking marbles for real. I'll just stick to doing this shit at home.
 
We have a lot of 5-meo-mipt running around the streets here in St.Catharines..

A lot of people here are replacing MDMA with it here as per a recent death and comatose state of two brothers overdosing. Which I entirely disagree with but that's a whole other topic..

..Personally I find 5-meo-mipt to be a lot more socially comfortable than the 2c-x class. The euphoria and visuals are both "mild"[<-subjective] in doses around 8-14mg. Nothing that would throw off your average joe at a party into being paranoid or overly self aware.

Though it really depends on the party and the people you party with. As they determine your set and setting..

Ask yourself what you'd want out of the night and you'll find your answer I think
 
whoseanb said:
2c-i was pretty much weaker in every way. Weaker visuals, weaker euphoria everything just seemed really weak to me. This could have a lot to do with tolerance maybe? I mean I did just trip last weekend but that was only 10 and this was 15.

i'll stick to 2c-e. That was the most profound,amazing experience in my 28 years of living. This 2c-i shit was pretty fucking boring.

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yea, 2c-i Is weak as fuck.
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2C-I is certainly less powerful than 2C-E, but its easygoing-ness makes it fun in its own way. I've spend the first couple hours of a 2C-I trip not seeing any visuals or feeling any mindfuck, then suddenly being hit square in the face with a "holy shit, I'm tripping nuts" feeling. The stuff can surprise you with its psychedelism sometimes. =D

I guess I like being sober enough that less intense trips aren't really a disappointment. As long as I'm keeping my mind well occupied during the trip, I'm a happy camper.
 
I've used both in party settings, and i think preference is going to vary significantly from person to person, but...

I prefer 5-meo-mipt because I feel more lucid and generally functional. It also tends to arouse my emotions in a generally positive, pro-social way, where I went to express my positive feelings for friends and people I care about. It also enhances music (better than 2c-i) and gives me an enhance appreciation for humor or clever insights like many psychs do. I like ~6mg for this purpose.

With 2c-i I can manage better socially than with most other psychedelics, but i'm still a bit out of it and spacey, and i tend to have worse bodily side effects.

Basically, I would summarize the difference for me as a more favorable ratio of experiential enhancement to functionality for this setting.
 
I prefer 5-meo-mipt in the sense of a party drug being a drug you take at a party in an apartment or at the pub - incredibly useful from low dosage of 3-4 mg for just a little psychedelic fizzy pick-me-up and grins to stronger and easily controlled trips of 10 mg or more.

2C-I would fit going out dancing better for me, 5-meo-mipt has got incredible body energy and tactile enhancement (about the only drug which has any kind of aphrodisiac effect for me - something neither MDPV or GHB ever gave) - but moxy hasn't much in the way of energy.

2C-I is that kind of energizing psychedelic. It's endowed with a "thinner" envelope of dosage but in the medium bit it is excellent for dancing the night away.
 
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