2C-I versus 2C-E

[Timothy Leary]

Some of the erowid reports on 2C-E seem very scary as far as medical problems. I am into the insight gained more than just a fun time, but it seems really intense. I don't like how it is not very well characterized. I am a bit worried it will be way to intense.

But 2C-I seems more trivial and less insightful, and it doesnt apparently have the visuals and auditory effects.

What would you guys recommend, do you think 2C-E is dangerous or that hard a trip for an experienced psych user, I feel at home with mushrooms and just go with the flow with psychedelics, I have never had a bad trip from a 5-HT2A agonist.

 

[theotherside]

I wouldn't say 2c-e is dangerous at all at doses below 25mg's oral. It is a "serious" trip that can last up to 12 hours...with the peak effects lasting well into 3 hours if not more. My 2c-e trips were complete psychedelic blasts to the face, but fantastic as well.

2c-i is my favorite simply because it is so light, the body high feels incredible, and the visuals are still there....you just don't gain much insight about what being "psychedelicized" is all about

 

[Timothy Leary]

I am more of the timothy leary type, less interested in hedonistic fun and more into insight. Reading more info on it it doesn't seem so bad, most of the bad reports are at least 20 mg, I might try 5-10 mg at first. I have had 4 grams of shrooms with 180 mg of harmala extract (green needle like crystals, probably pretty pure) It was pretty intense but there were no downsides, one of the best experiences of my life. Do you think with this huge dose of mushrooms that I am pretty well equipped to handle a reasonable dose? I know that is famous last words, but I do have quite a bit of experience with keeping calm on pretty intense trips.

 

[theotherside]

Yes I took 5mg to test it out first(2c-e) and had a trip from that dose. I then took 18mg's(3 weeks later) and that is when it was unbelievable!! You will learn tons about mental construct processing, how to access the collective sub....it is pretty amazing. I have taken many LSD trips in the early 2000's and 2c-e is equal IMO to it on every level.

It's brother/cousin compound 2c-p on the other hand was way too much for me at 10mg's....still recovering from that experience.

 

[Timothy Leary]

Sounds great, thanks for the input. I have got a ~$250 balance, It reads to the milligram and has an accuracy of 10 mg, It is for actual chemistry so it has a higher max weight (300 g instead of 20) and that is why the price is more for the same accuracy. I figure the cheap ass diamond "milligram" scales are just as accurate. I think it would be a bad idea just to go straight out and attempt a 10 mg measurement, but do you think it would be sufficient to measure 30 - 50 mg, dissolve it in water or alcohol and take a fraction of the liquid? If I used 30 mg and I took a 10 mg dose it could be between 6.7 mg and 15 mg, still a bit dodgey. 50 mg for a 10 mg dose would yield a range of 8-12 a much more acceptable range. I am going to get 250-500 mg and I don't want to risk having some huge amount in solution for 6 months and having it degrade on me. Are 2C's that prone to degradation, I might store it in ever clear inside a freezer.

Or do you think I could just use the old method of slipping a few grains on a pocket knife, not the best idea but I have had good success with it an JWH-018.

 

[nopipesdfw]

I love big doses of 2C-I with cannabis, nitrous, or MDMA, I find it insanely enjoyable and psychedelic. (Some people refuse to tune in without their favorites, try it out!)

2C-E consists of great patterns, I can watch any texture for hours without any other drugs. 2C-I is visual, but in a hard to pinpoint, lines undefined, bleedy, supertraily, sparkly, and strangely hilarious way.

2C-E is deeper definitely, but I prefer 2C-I for things like clubs or social situations, but I find 2C-E more worthwhile alone.

 

[RedBaron]

I agree with nopipesdfw. 2C-E is a good heavy, couchsitting trip, while 2C-I is more of a club drug. I prefer 2C-E myself.