2c-i questions

[NJ5227]

Hi all. I'm a fairly experienced tripper, plenty of experience with shrooms, mdma + analogues, 5 sub trypts, dmt and I am a daily heavy cannabis user. I have been on a bit of a hiatus from more intense experiences after going through a period of mdma abuse and some traumatic events that caused me to take a step back. For my birthday, I wanted to give myself an experience to build on and help me move forward from those darker days. After some research, 2c-b seemed like what I wanted, but I settled on 2c-i as thats what I could find. I have read and searched plenty but I had a couple of questions:

as an extremely heavy cannabis user, will I want to lower the dosage overall? I seem to be sensitive to excess stimulation and body load, so I'm trying to avoid going too far. I am 6'0 150lbs. Was considering a staggered dose of 8mm, then another, for a total of ~16mg.

I've never done a chemical that gave me OEV's and I'm a little nervous about the intensity. Shrooms were nice but DMT was beautiful and terrifying at the same time. Basically, I'm looking for mild to moderate OEV's and a nice light time - right choice for me?

I've read Tums can help with the nausea without interference with mdma. I've also plugged rectally mdma in the past and avoided this. Would these tricks work to avoid the same with 2c-i? Does plugging increase potency?

How does this combine with sex, porn, and/or masterbation (should i strike out that night)? I find sex to be an integral part to any trip.

Thanks for the responses

 

[xx001]

Plugging definitely increases the potency of 2c-i and the like, as does snorting. For some, the come up is extremely rapid and can be uncomfortable physically compared to taking it orally.

16mg isn't an especially high dose, I would just take it all at once. Maybe have another 5mg prepared in case you want more later on.

When I took 15 mg, I barely felt anything until I smoked some cannabis, then the visuals kicked in.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I've shared a lot of 2C-I with quite a number of people. My experience is that Shulgin was right on with the dosages, where as usually he tends to lowball it. I've gone as high as 26mg with 2C-I but for me it really shined at the 14mg-16mg range....and most people I shared it with found this level far better than the 18mg-26mg range. 2C-I is one that has a lot of energy (or some would call body load). It is very tolerable (even erotic) at the right level, but take it too high and it quickly becomes annoying. The problems with dosages is half the recommendations you find online are from people who trip every weekend....and they tend to take a lot more than most would need.

PS...2C-I is a very forgiving material. If you are comfortable on mushrooms and DMT then I can't imagine you will feel too much resistance to 2C-I.

 

[NJ5227]

"Forgiving" is definitely a desired trait. I tend to experience a lot of fear before trying something new, and I hate doing the walk of shame to grab a benzo when things get out of hand. I don't mind a fast come up so long as there is minimal to no nausea with it. I'm lucky enough to have access to plenty of cannabis and wax (hash) to counter nausea. I suspect I will end up really enjoying this one from what you all have said so far. Thanks for the continued feedback

 

[Solipsis]

Plugging tends to be cleaner in effect but it can also potentiate it, maybe not ideal if you are not yet experienced with the compound and/or ROA.

I find 2C-I forgiving as well, a moderate 2C-X with empathogenic qualities and limited psychedelia unless you dose quite high. The visuals should not be menacing like they can be on mushrooms or DMT.

If you don't tolerate stimulation so well I would start extra low, but it is always smart to start with a low dosage if you are getting to know a drug.
I would not take more than 16 mg no, because around that point the effects can get more intense dramatically quickly per mg (steep part of dose-response curve). Although not everyone reacts equally to that, a part of people finds that around 20 mg is the max for them but others can handle 30 mg or even more.
Always assume that you are sensitive to it when you start.

If you plan on smoking weed during the trip, for heavy smokers it does not necessarily mean that they get wiped out by it, because they are used to the cannabis. It is sort of baseline for them to be stoned.
Still, take it easy with the smoking because you may not be able to handle as much as normally.

Maybe if you stagger a 16 mg dose, take a larger part of it first and a smaller part later (optionally) so that you have less risk of being taken by surprise by the second half.

Also, on a whole other day before you want to trip, take a very low dose like 2 mg to see how you react and if it is not some other compound that is very potent. (If you have friends who have already taken the same batch as you are getting, this is less necessary but still smart).

 

[NJ5227]

thanks Solipsis. I have already performed a 2mg test, didn't notice much but possible (or placebo) peripheral flash cev but thats about it. Allergy tests are always wise.

So I have decided to go with a 10mg base and have a 6mg to follow at about 1:30 if desired effects are not achieved. Before I trip, I usually preload the night before with 5htp, magnesium, dark chocolate with some sea salt. I find this puts me in a great state for a new experience. Any thoughts?

 

[I<3Hallucinogens]

i took 20mg of 2c-i and had an abosultly amazing time. also took 150mg of MDMA in the same capsule, but ohmegerd. bliss and euphoria for hours. SEVERAL hours. dont reccomend for youre first time, especially if you had problems with it, but i am not going to take 2c-i without molly again because it was just that amazing. had all sorts of visuals bordering on what i believe to be a LSD trip(never tried it :/) obviously not the same thing, but i was getting the ceiling making geometric shapes, walls melting into other objects and COLORS EVERYWHERE. i layed on the floor for like, 3 hours just looking at everything.

 

[Solipsis]

I would really use the 5-HTP for recovery if I were you. Pre-loading is not considered to be helpful or safe. Depending on what drug you take following it there is little use for it because the actions are unrelated (e.g. agonism instead of release) or worse yet if the action is related, serotonin balances may be disturbed. I think most of all there are problems if there is also reuptake inhibition, like we also see with MXE.
I forgot what symptoms this could cause with MDMA but it does not sound like a good plan, basically not with any drug.

The magnesium does though...

(If you want to make it more interesting with the 2C-I just take a little more the next time you try it, if you want to make it more responsible by taking nutrients to make available during recovery then actually take the 5-HTP during the recovery )