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2C-I - first time - very enlightening

SirGallium

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First time on 2C-I, very enlightening

I recently found a source for 2C-I for pretty cheap. I bought 40mg from him. [Source discussion and pirce removed -Splatt]


I was planning on doing it the upcoming weekend, it was wednesday. I was talking to my friend online after school after I had made the purchase. He's like "Hey man, wanna do that 2C-I?" and I said "Yeah sure, friday night?" and he says "No, I mean tonight. You know school will be canceled tomorrow. And if it isn't, just bring your bag to my house"

It was snowing pretty hard, so I pleaded with my mom to let me go and went. I got there and dosed almost right away. 40mg is a pretty damn small amount when pure, so we ended up dividing it with a razor and licking it up.


Its strange. For three years since the first time I smoked pot, I always thought to myself "Wow, I cant wait to try mushrooms or LSD. Being able to see hallucinations must be so amazing! If I ever saw them, I would just be fascinated and watch them until the drugs went away!" I had read that 2C-I gives basic hallucinations, like breathing, and flowing patterns in things. When the trip started though, I wasn't watching the intricate patterns in the carpet, I thought more clearly and deeper and more reasonably about things than I ever had in my life. Ill talk about that later.

My friend had about 40lbs on me, so I felt the first effects earlier. We were sitting there playing super mario brothers on his computer (he rigged up an original nintendo controller to his computer, its pretty sweet) and I remember looking down at the carpet, and seeing the most amazing hallucination. His carpet is the kind with lots of little bars of carpet sticking straight up. Like its made up of 2mm wide puffs of carpet about half an inch high. Anyway, they were flowing and swirling in different directions. It looked exactly as if the were submerged in water, and the water was flowing around. Just like a big patch of seaweed in the ocean. The seaweed flows and moves with the water. The carpet was doing exactly that. It was amazing. I said "Omg, look at the carpet! Can you see it moving?" And he looks at it and says "Oh yeah, I can see a skull right there! Cool!" At that point I knew he wasn't feeling it yet, and probably wouldn't for another 20 mins because of his weight.

So I just layed back on his bed against the wall, and thought. This was the first time I have ever experienced ego loss. I had read about it in lots of trip reports, but never felt it. It was horrifying. But I still had control, and confidence. I thought about who I was as a person, and who my friends were. I thought of the groups of people in my school and how rediculous they are. By groups of people I mean the wiggers, the goths, groups like that. I thought to myself, wow If they ever had one dose of 2C-I, that would sure turn them normal. I have never really been or tried to be in a certain group, or dress a certain way. Because of that I think the ego loss didn't devastate me as much as it could have. I imagine that if i was a wigger or something and had this drug, and experienced the ego loss, I would have probably started crying.

I thought about who I was and what I was doing in life. I had to go to the bathroom. I looked at myself in the mirror while I was washing my hands, and thought, wow... thats me! I felt like *I* was a completely different person than my body. I felt like I was staring at just some random face in a crowd. It wasn't me. I am me, that body wasn't. I had just gotten a haircut I really liked, so I liked what the person looked like looking back at me, and was happy with myself. I went back into my friends room and sat back down on his bed. I thought about having to choose a career soon. I had been thinking about choosing a career in aerospace and just thought to myself "WTF? Aerospace?! Wtf is wrong with you?" I then knew that the only reason that I had been thinking about that, was because I was the best paper airplane maker in my school! I thought about how ridiculous it was to choose a career in aerospace because I was good at making paper planes. I thought, wow I really need to start making some smart decisions in what I need to do with my life.

We had been tripping for about 2 hours now and it was about peaking. My friend turned to me and said "Wow we haven't said a word to each other for hours!" I said "Wow, your right. i've just been thinking about things" and he said "Yeah, me too."

Then the coolest thing happened. Me and my friend talked for about 6 hours straight, about the things that nobody ever talks about. We talked about everything that people just think about to themselves and think "Oh, thats normal". We weren't afraid, or embarrassed to talk about anything to each other.

I don't remember much of the stuff we talked about. I remember him telling me about how he felt like he was so old, like he was getting old way too fast, but in his mind he felt younger than he is. I told him that I feel the same way sometimes. After we ran out of things only normally thought about to talk about, we just started talking about normal stuff that anybody would talk about. But for some reason, just sitting there and talking to each other about normal stuff was so satisfying for me. Just completely fully satisfying.

The last thing I remember is that 2C-I has an amphetamine like affect in addition to its phyco effects. I remember that the whole night my mind was racing with thought, I had so many thoughts per minute, it was crazy. I remember thinking, wow if I ever do this again, I have to record all of my thoughts somehow. I also felt very disconnected from my environment. I think feeling disconnected was part of my ego loss.

Sorry for such a long story. All I know is that I must have 2C-I at least one more time to straighten out some more stuff in my life. It kind of detatches you from yourself, and you can just view you and your life from the third perspective. Your able to judge yourself just as well as you can judge other people while not on 2C-I. I'm happier with myself after this trip, and I cant wait to take it again.
 
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You did not have ego loss. I don't think 2c-i really has the power to do so, though it might. Ego loss is where you lose any and all contact with an existance of being a single tangible entity.

I've never had any introspective depth with the chem, but being that it's your first psychedelic I'm sure there was some. I've had such overwhelming visuals sometimes, other times nothing. Sometimes my vision becomes so fractalled I feel like a fly. I cannot even navigate there are so many pentagons and hexagons in my vision. I love the intensity of them the first few times around, but it loses it's magic very quickly so enjoy these trips while you can.

Also don't rush to take it ASAP. Give it some time. I regret dosing day after day. Now monster doses in excess of 100mg do absolutely nothing for me. And there are a handful of nasty side effects to watch out for. But I'm sure you're glad to experience a psychedelic. They're definately one of my favorite, if not my favorite drug.
 
Re: First time on 2C-I, very enlightening

SirGallium said:
I'm happier with myself after this trip, and I cant wait to take it again.

I feel this so much for 2c-i ... but i wont waste it like dxm ....


1 time each week MAX. I dont want to waste this awsome stuff.
 
1 time each week won`t keep you interested for long, tripping on the same thing every week is too much for any psychedelic. I know that I wouldn`t want to do it every week. EDIT--not saying that you won`t find it interesting for long, just saying that I know I wouldn`t like it--

And there are a handful of nasty side effects to watch out for

lol, with 100+mg every single day I can understand that there are some nasty side effects, I get headaches and musclepain with anything over 15mg...
 
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Well I guess I didnt experience ego loss. It was just my first time on any phychedelic, it was a really new feeling for me.

And all I said was I cant wait to try it again. It has been two months sinse I first took it, and I dont plan to take it again for another week. But when I do I think ill step up to 25 or 30mg, I really didnt get that many visuals. I just saw patterns in things. It was more of a mind trip for me.
 
Well, I can say 2c-i has potential for ego-loss, but I don't know if it would have happaned to me if I hadn't taken a wide range of other psychedelics prior to my 2c-i experiences..
 
2C-I definitely produces ego loss for me. It's not readily apparent until around 30mg, but then it starts getting pretty intense. 30mg is the most I've done, and that from a pretty weak batch, I think.

Maybe SirGallium didn't experience ego "loss", but it sounds like he did get his first taste of ego diminishment. Personally I think it's a sliding scale; he lost a little ego, it's always possible to lose more though.

Congrats on what sounds like a great first trip, man. Reminds me of my first time, which was on 3 hits of LSD. The more I look back on that one, the more I think it was the only ++++ experience I've had to date. I'm still chasing that elusive oneness.
 
Nice trip report!
I had a similar experience on my first 2C-I trip (16mg): the visuals were not very intense, but there was definitely an interesting depth in the experience that made it unique. My setting was excellent and I felt like an artist the whole time and was thinking a lot about life - much more than on 2C-E (there I was overwhelmed by the CEVs - that kept me busy =D )
And also the body feeling and the euphoria it produced was awesome...
The only nasty thing was that it felt chemical from time to time.
Greetings,
Magic Mad Hatter
 
Ego diminishment is just as effective as ego loss sometimes, in the retrospective moments that come once you're sober again.

Get a dictaphone next time, and just leave it recording. You'll love what you hear during the playback :)
 
Good report, and some good advice. The desire to repeat is SO tempting and always impossible.

I find the whole discussion of ego loss fascinating. I feel like an old crank, but I would like to remind people that the chemicals are not purely responsible for the subjective effects. I've "lost myself" in any number of situations which didn't involve the ingestion of any psychedelic.

Although becoming the space between snowflakes falling was probably somewhat related to the acid...
 
..or that you exist ;)

Nice report, I enjoyed the read.
2C-I seems promising to use often at first, but after abusing it it becomes uninteresting, scattered and physical. I still have negative mental after-effects from abusing this substance stupidly. I won't pinpoint 2C-I, MDMA and not sleeping probably helped as well. But yes... try to keep it special :)

About your mental self-image appearing younger than you really are, this seems to be common, it is true for me and my friends, and Shulgin (the old dude that made your drug!) even mentions he had it way up into his early senior years, where his mental self image appeared in his 40's/50's iirc, but a trip "cured" this little "problem" for him.
 
RG1 said:
In laymans terms, ego loss is when you forget your human.

Well, I like to say it is when you don't realize what is or is not real and you then realize that this feeling cannot be controlled, but rather it is overtaken your soul/mind/whatever and it is driving you (you don't really comprehend much except that you are existing in some form).

I experience ego loss on tryptamines rather than on phens. In fact I have never dosed myself high enough on any phen to experience this feeling of disconnection, maybe ego diminishment, but definately not ego loss. This is, at least for me the easiest way to further elaborate what I percieve ego loss to be.

Do some ayahuasca at a good high level, and you will experience what it is like to LOSE ALL HOPE. I would consider that to be a shattered ego, rather than ego loss. I think it is the same more or less though.

Be careful when it comes to this point in a psychadelic high, this is where most people who are unstable or unfamiliar with these compounds tend to lose it and experience a 'bad trip', which I don't personally believe in... Anyways....

Much Love
 
2CI, in my opinion and from my experience, is not the type of psychadelic thats very useful for exploring and discovering. I've done some high doses (about 60 mg was my highest), and to me, it was just a confusing mess. The main effect of this drug is extreme vision impairment from hallucinations, and extreme confusion. Although it is really fun to trip balls out on it in a dark room or a room dimly illuminated with various home electronics, I found no redeeming value to this drug as tripping gets old after about 8 hours of constant fractalizing of your visual field. You should give shrooms a try, I've had my most successful trips on em. I discovered the answer to life the universe and everything on a good shroom trip once ;)
 
lol no, i should have seen that one coming ;)

but it was that simple, basically that we exist only to witness the universe, and the universe exists only to be witnessed, nothing more complex than that, but at the time it was a very euphoric understanding of the basics of it all
 
ego-loss doesn't usually just come along with drug addled side effects.. i don't like the way you talk about the effects of psychedelic drugs.. it sounds like you don't really understand the way they work..

the first time you have an ego-loss experience you usually don't know it until after it's over.... if you sit around thinking, man "I" can't wait to experience ego-loss, what a great time "I'M" having.. see, even the way you talk is still way to focused on this "ME" you speak of.. you're far from ego-loss my friend.. read the shulgin scale, and Tim Leary's paper on using LSD to imprint the Tibbetan Buddhist experience, they're on erowid
 
First of all, nice report.

Second, the guy who is doing 2C-I every week will get bored of the drug in roughly.... 3 weeks. :lol:

So do it sparingly... wisely... not often.

My first 2c-i trip was awesome, it was great, just like yours. My 2nd trip was "average", medicore. And my 3rd and final trip showed me the true colors of that alienated, damaging drug, and I wont ever touch it again. It's the only drug I truly felt was doing something "negative" to me both during the trip and even after. Its such a chemical aura, an artificial feeling, and I really feel it was not meant for ingestion.

But anyway, enough of that, You need to discover your own experiences/opinions on your own and I hope all goes well for you w/ it... nice report :)
 
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