2C-I and DMT Combination

[hoodrichgmoney]

I couldn't find a thread regarding this and was wondering what it would be like. I imagine the visuals would be absolutely ridiculous.

In addition to that I am wondering how I cut down on the body load. I have heard that taking diphenhydramine, benadryl, helps with that? Or plugging, which I might actually try. The jittery effects simply overcome all the other good parts of it and its really obnoxious. If I could eliminate that 2C-I would be spectacular.

Also, in regards to DMT I have just started trying it. The last two times I smoked, first time with the layering method out of a bong and the second time out of my vaporizer, I have gotten a "rush" and then some definite euphoria for about 5-10 minutes but didn't break through or experience any major visuals. The first time I definitely did it incorrectly because I let the flame touch it directly. The second time I actually learned how to vaporize it correctly, because I was with someone who has done it before successfully, but I still didn't break through. I tried holding it in for at least 10 seconds as well. Does it sound like I am either not smoking it correctly or does it sound like I need more, or any other issue with the aforementioned methods?

But yeah if anyone has combined these and can shed light on the subject that would be much appreciated.

 

[hoodrichgmoney]

Oh and when using the lightbulb vaporizer the second time my friend broke though so I am sure that method works, at least with some success.

 

[psilocybonaut]

In addition to that I am wondering how I cut down on the body load. I have heard that taking diphenhydramine, benadryl, helps with that? Or plugging, which I might actually try. The jittery effects simply overcome all the other good parts of it and its really obnoxious. If I could eliminate that 2C-I would be spectacular.

Also, in regards to DMT I have just started trying it. The last two times I smoked, first time with the layering method out of a bong and the second time out of my vaporizer, I have gotten a "rush" and then some definite euphoria for about 5-10 minutes but didn't break through or experience any major visuals. The first time I definitely did it incorrectly because I let the flame touch it directly. The second time I actually learned how to vaporize it correctly, because I was with someone who has done it before successfully, but I still didn't break through. I tried holding it in for at least 10 seconds as well. Does it sound like I am either not smoking it correctly or does it sound like I need more, or any other issue with the aforementioned methods?

Plugging IS the best ROA to minimize body load, from everything I have heard. You should try mixing LSD and DMT :D

What you're describing sounds like low dose DMT to me (15-20mg). It takes effort to break through on DMT. You need to smoke like at least 35mg straight to the dome -- which involves taking like 3 huuuge tokes and holding them in....basically smoking as fast as you can until you are physically incapable of smoking more. You'll know when you break through...

Best way to smoke it is through "a machine", it minimizes the burning so the smoke taste isn't so strong....also allows you to take huuuuge rips... Only way I've broken through....can't stand that taste
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=302269 <---the machine thread

 

[helium-4]

I'll admit I've only smoked DMT out of spoons or similar glass pipe styles. I usually layer the bottom with a few screens, place little bit of ash from MJ over top of the screen, and with an herb that is soft and on the thinner side (or more MJ) added on top of the little bed of ash, pressing down slightly. I'll just drop the desired dose on top at this point, and slowly bring the lighter down over top of the DMT. I be careful to watch for the change in physical properties, as the DMT will start to reach it's boiling point before the lighter gets close to directly contacting it. The DMT starts to change phase into a liquid before vaporization or combustion takes place (with compromising burning of precious DMT molecules involved with combustion). Depending on the distance and temperature of the heat source in relation to the pile of DMT, your DMT will either vaporize or result in a some lose of product due to combustion. With proper control of the heat source the DMT will flow down into through the layer of MJ but not passing through the ash/screens. A decent portion of the DMT should have vaporized at the point, with each additional hit seemingly allowed to be consumed with minimal lose of of the drug from applying the flame almost directly to directly on the now charged surface of the bowl. I find that the MJ + ash layer helps allow for minimal use of direct flame by creating a hot cherry in the vicinity of the melted DMT.

Also the longer the tube/pipe the more crystallization on the inside seems to appear.

I can get solid experiences using this method across the spectrum of doses (from 10-14mg with its threshold effets, to 65-70 mg throwing you into potentially an ego loss state in the midst of the powerful breakthrough experience). I do need to try some other smoking devices to find the one that may work best for me (solid vaporization action, minimal difficulties in using device while already under the influence of other psychoactive drugs or previous DMT doses, and low potential in breaking device/hurting myself with the device).